100,000 troops, including Americans to be deployed in W.Iraq

a reply to: spy66

But that would only happen With Russian inflance. I dont think FSA would have much to bargen With against Russia.

On the contrary: the FSA could bring the civil war to an immediate end and provide Russia with the boots on the ground to hamstring ISIS. It can guarantee that Russia gets to keep its bases, build a pipeline, and get lucrative reconstruction projects. It also makes Putin look like a statesmen, despite how badly he has been screwing up. Sunnis are the majority, so FSA is in a better position to maintain "stability" than the Alawites. The FSA would also be more open to trading parcels of land than Assad would be.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: spy66

But that would only happen With Russian inflance. I dont think FSA would have much to bargen With against Russia.

On the contrary: the FSA could bring the civil war to an immediate end and provide Russia with the boots on the ground to hamstring ISIS. It can guarantee that Russia gets to keep its bases, build a pipeline, and get lucrative reconstruction projects. It also makes Putin look like a statesmen, despite how badly he has been screwing up. Sunnis are the majority, so FSA is in a better position to maintain "stability" than the Alawites. The FSA would also be more open to trading parcels of land than Assad would be.

We were talking about Assad.

a reply to: spy66

We were talking about Assad.

Exactly. Assad has had five years to deliver. He's failed. The FSA will be the new Russian client.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: spy66

We were talking about Assad.

Exactly. Assad has had five years to deliver. He's failed. The FSA will be the new Russian client.

Yep... that is what i believe to. Putin will let Assad go if that benefits Russian interests.

Putin can play two different bargening options With Assad. Putin can let Assad go to gain FSA support for a alternative political solution, or Putin can ceep Assad in Power, and ceep on pounding FSA until they surender without bargening options.

Russia and the US are not interested in a solution, just an alternative to direct engagement.,

originally posted by: all2human
Russia and the US are not interested in a solution, just an alternative to direct engagement.,

Enter Chechen Brigade



Low sustained war with hardly any casualties is good for business & economy .

That is weird but it is what it is .

if they can stabilize the middle east and secure a stable government i would be all for it

but

i dont think it can be done. the infrastructure is almost non-existant and a truly secular government has to be supported by the people. sending an army to serve as a bouncer is futile.

I have a huge feeling US alliance will bomb Iran causing them to come into Iraq.

originally posted by: makemap
I have a huge feeling US alliance will bomb Iran causing them to come into Iraq.

Iran already has its military deployed to iraq.

IRAN is pulling OUT of Syria. They already control southern Iraq, and Baghdad...likely consolidating ahead of a Turkish & maybe Kurdish Sunni offensive.

originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Why do we need to send our sons and daughters fight another war in that region, plz stay safe out there people.

Ever heard of the petrodollar? Thats why.

a reply to: intrptr

Russian isn't bombing the terrorists in Syria?

Yes your right, because they are bombing everything else including civilians.

a reply to: DJW001

the FSA could bring the civil war to an immediate end and provide Russia with the boots on the ground to hamstring ISIS.

I find this to be interesting if true...

President Vladimir Putin said on Friday Russia is supporting the opposition Free Syrian Army, providing it with air cover, arms and ammunition in joint operations with Syrian troops against Islamist militants.

A few hours later, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters that Putin had been talking about weapons supplies to the armed forces loyal to Assad.

But Peskov did not say Putin had been mistaken or misquoted about supplies to the Free Syrian Army and did not deny weapons were going to the opposition force.

www.reuters.com...

I wonder what Putin is trying to do here, as he is backing Assad, and the people trying to get rid of him...I honestly think Putin has lost it.

I don't think the FSA would be so eager to help Russia after they backed the person the FSA was trying to get have either killed, or removed, and I think Russia would have to come up with something very favorable for the FSA for them to agree to something like that.

a reply to: makemap

I have a huge feeling US alliance will bomb Iran causing them to come into Iraq.

They haven't yet, and they already are.

In Iraq that is.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I wonder what Putin is trying to do here, as he is backing Assad, and the people trying to get rid of him…I honestly think Putin has lost it.

The US is pretending to fight against terrorists when it is the one actually supporting them to topple Assad.

Kind of hard to play off considering the Russians are allied with the state of Syria and the US isn't.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

I wonder what Putin is trying to do here, as he is backing Assad, and the people trying to get rid of him...I honestly think Putin has lost it.

He lost it a while ago, but his actions are consistent if he intends to form a coalition between the FSA and and Assad's military against Daesh. Assad will have to step down, of course, but I'm sure he has a plump nest egg in Cyprus to draw on from his dacha in Crimea.

a reply to: intrptr

The US is pretending to fight against terrorists when it is the one actually supporting them to topple Assad.

That lie is past its expiration date.

Kind of hard to play off considering the Russians are allied with the state of Syria and the US isn't.

The FSA is in the process of becoming the State of Syria, with Putin's blessing. Must I explain the new "Yalta Conference" bargain again?

a reply to: DJW001

The FSA is in the process of becoming the State of Syria, with Putin's blessing. Must I explain the new "Yalta Conference" bargain again?

FSA: Another (F)ailed (S)tate of (A)merica. Just like Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

Now another surge of troops into Iraq, for the fourth time… how many times does Iraq need US 'help'?

Lie to someone else.

a reply to: intrptr

I am looking forward to your back-pedaling when the endgame plays out.

originally posted by: makemap
I have a huge feeling US alliance will bomb Iran causing them to come into Iraq.

Ummmm where you been? Iran is already in and controlling Iraq.