Purpose of our existense?

a reply to: Joesepth

Greetings-

Do You mean this 'time'? This time that I'm in Body/vessel? Or ALL the other times in which I was in Body?

The purpose has been the SAME in ALL My Lives, this is quite ironic because that is One of a handful of things that stays the same in a world that is always in a state of change. This of course is to work from the anahata (heart chakra) in ALL Your dealings; this can NEVER be wrong or misguided EVER and doesn't matter which Life You're living up to the max. of 47 Lives.

Life is dynamic and a non-working anahata breeds dis-contentment and this leads to a static existence.

The One Infinite Creator resides in the Octave (8) There are 7 chakras and when One hits #8 they meld back from whence they came, Hunab Ku..

namaste

P.S. another funny/odd thing is that 'some' go through the different religions™ in different Lives or they work in contrasts. Be an anti-Semite one time and then a practicing Jew the next.. Or they are killed in a battle or war and they incarnate as their slayers offspring.

There is plenty more to it but I don't want people I don't KNOW to 'think' I'm weird... hahahaha

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Ghost147
I laugh everytime I see this! Stop being religious! Go out and live life! WTF.

Let's see. Give up religion, take a deep breathe and go live life, doing things Christians are forbidden to do. Guess I could go smoke some crack. Rob a bank. Kill some people. Go spit on my parents grave. Go have sex with my best friends husband.

Yup, because a Christian has never done any of those things before.

Since when is "go out and live" mean "do everything that will harm yourself and others". Are you that close minded about mentalities that are outside your world view? If you really do think that's how things work outside of christianity or religion in general, then you've just proved my original post.

originally posted by: angeldoll
a reply to: Ghost147
Idiots! Okay, then nevermind. Think I will continue to sit at home everyday, throw out my picts of the world I have traveled, all the interesting people I've met, ah, meh. Nevermind. Maybe I will just sit home and wait to die.

It's clear you're grossly misinterpreting what is meant by my post. It's about education, not actual actions. When religious views are held higher than rational ones, it becomes a detriment to the individual and the people they spread their close-minded teachings to. Are all religious people this way? No. It was pretty clear in the post which kind of religious person fits it's description.

a reply to: Joesepth

The universe is infinite and is a small part of a greater world. The purpose of living is that there is no purpose. You come into the world with free will and an inextinguishable curiosity. Experience is about the only goal. Some will want more than others. But most cant live life to its fullest because of the current dark age in which humanity lost its connection with the divine. Instead they live petty compartmentalized limited experiences and go mad or their body gets bored and auto-destroys itself (cancers..). As with animals no living beings are made to have thousands of rules to respect because it goes against the fundamental freedom they all have within their genes and soul.

If there is a goal, a pretty good guess would be enlightenment. From my research.. most humans are spiritual at their core and if it was not for the current civilization which could be called the antichrist, well things would be like DAY AND NIGHT, totally different on whole new level. But here is the situation, most humans are dormant and blind. So what best goal to have but to awake to the true greatness and vastness of the whole existence, which you CANT see at the current moment but COULD if you worked on your inner self with enough dedication?

I respect each one of your beliefs and sharing it. To begin with the video it was just to give an visual image to start with, I personally do believe that we are spiritual.. have we lost contact with divine/god/light/creator what ever its going to be called? most likley. What is the way to get back in contact and get more understanding about our life purpose? its just confusing me that i start to think i wish i could go back in time as much as i could where less technology is available or just at this time have somewhere to live where i can get all my NEEDS from nature directly which will balance my thought and feelings to appreciate this world we live in as good as it should be.

I think it should be simple and to the simplest.

We are here because DNA wants to replicate, and it needs a non-virtual universe to do it.

originally posted by: Ghost147
If a video like that doesn't make you question why god would make everything for a single creation on a single planet in a single solar system in a single galaxy in possibly multiple universes, and the logistics behind such a notion that a god made it all just for us. Than you're far too delusional for your own health.

Get out and explore life around you instead of simply waiting to die for a heaven that is so incredibly unlikely to exist.

All the evidence suggests that this may be all we have. Make the most of it.

Thanks for sharing the video

Interesting isn't it? It made me more certain there is "something" whatever you want to call him/it/her/them "god"?

And what evidence?

Also to add...

Im starting to believe (ish) that we live in some kind of simulation.

a reply to: UniFinity

Why would a Pope who only supported holiness....Heavenly spiritual presence that their Philosophy named Christ, to then support alien....when their own organization is now involved in the study of God?

Of course you would change your ideals if you believed that it would allow you gain monetary and trade benefit, without actually considering what has been considered....artificial intelligence.

We know by self observation and through self explanation that our consciousness making all of the reviews, statements doing the science and reviewing the science caused the artificial intelligence to emerge.

The reason we know is because science caused it...so of course our consciousness made the statement that alien existence is "artificial".

Artificial belongs to the scientific condition of forming artificial chemicals....and new science is about using/gaining artificial itself.

Yet artificial chemicals mean that the natural chemical wavelengths that support the condition of our atmosphere are being changed...and it is why our atmosphere is attacking us.

It is all about greed, human ownership, secret ancient brotherhoods who overthrew ancient life of the tribal community and forced life to belong to civilization run and owned by the brotherhood itself...They enforced religious belief upon our persons and told us what our life meant....and obviously it is all manipulated b...s.

We lived naturally, lived as a tribal family and supported each other, the only reason we are living is Nature itself.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Interesting isn't it? It made me more certain there is "something" whatever you want to call him/it/her/them "god"?

The notion I was referring to was that which holds humanity as the prime focal point of a god's creation. I can see how one could attribute the existence of this vast universe as a product of a god, and that's perfectly reasonable. However, to claim that Humans are the best of it all is just arrogant and ridiculous.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
And what evidence?

We have only observed things coming into formation through natural sources.

a reply to: Murgatroid

About a year ago, I bought a piece of property for $80,000. Today, it is worth approximately $600,000. This highly profitable transaction required no effort on my part, except walking into a lawyer's office to sign the papers. I have asked the Lord, "Jesus, why do you bless me like this?" "Because you passed my test," He answered.

Not long ago, the Lord gave me $200,000. I said, "Lord, what am I going to do with it? I don't need it. What did You give it to me for?" He said, "You passed my test."

OMG are you suggesting that Donald Trump passed Gods test?

Below are some of the results, notice the correlation between some of them...

Yes, they are not based no factual testable evidence?

I'm agnostic solely because I can't fathom something coming from nothing and science hasn't been able to come up with a valid proven theory to explain what was the catalyst of everything. The possibilities are infinite of what is possible beyond our comprehension and understandings of the universe. Hence I simply state the truth, that I don't know the REAL answer.

I find that Atheist and Religious folks tend to have one thing in common when it comes to answering the meaning of life or whether God exist or not: both are going off their gut feelings but taking opposite leaps of faith.

However, I find most religion in todays world as very silly and as system created by man as a method of control.

However, despite accepting that I don't know the answer I do love me some speculation, in fact this very same subject was the topic : www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: Murgatroid
I'm agnostic solely because I can't fathom something coming from nothing and science hasn't been able to come up with a valid proven theory to explain what was the catalyst of everything.

The Big Bang theory describes what the catalyst of everything was, but it does not claim that 'everything came from nothing'.

Simply be cause we don't know what came before the expansion of the singularity that is the 'big bang' doesn't really give validity to there being a god. A lack of knowledge doesn't validate another position, in other words. Also, what if we do eventually discover where that singularity came from naturally? That still leaves us with more questions on what came before the process of creating singularities. Basically, you'll never have a position at that rate because the goal posts are always being moved back.

What we can do, though, is see how everything around us has formed naturally, and nothing has been observed and confirmed to arise magically or from any being.

Most people don't really understand that most atheists don't exactly claim 'there is absolutely no possibility of a god', but rather, they state 'there is no reason for me to believe in an unfalsifiable claim that a god created anything, without first having evidence for that claim'. It's the same position you likely have that invisible pink unicorns that are undetectable by man made tools exist and are floating around all of us all the time. you can't disprove it, the claim is unfalsifiable, but there's also no reason to believe it to be factual.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
I find that Atheist and Religious folks tend to have one thing in common when it comes to answering the meaning of life or whether God exist or not: both are going off their gut feelings but taking opposite leaps of faith.

Not entirely. As explained above, Atheism isn't a position based off of faith, it's a position based off of logical reasoning, and subject to change upon evidence.

a reply to: Ghost147

The Big Bang theory describes what the catalyst of everything was, but it does not claim that 'everything came from nothing'.

The Big Bang theory applies for our universe and not what is outside of it, if anything as we really don't know. I wasn't suggesting that the Big Bang claim everything came from nothing.

My reference to something coming from nothing was in reference that we don't have the knowledge or scientific tools to determine the first of everything or that initial catalyst even outside of our observable universe.

Simply be cause we don't know what came before the expansion of the singularity that is the 'big bang' doesn't really give validity to there being a god.

Exactly, but it doesn't also give validity to a creator not existing either, hence I'm agnostic as we can't prove either way.

you can't disprove it, the claim is unfalsifiable, but there's also no reason to believe it to be factual.

Exactly, so the right answer is that you don't really know. However, based on some reasoning,gut feeling,faith or un tested methods you can make an EDUCATED guess.

I personally lean more towards the atheist side , but when it comes down to it I can't say scientifically that a creator (doesn’t have to be religious like as GOD perse ) does or doesn't exist as 100% factual. Now I understand there are different levels of atheism but I find it just easier to say I have no clue whether a creator truly exist or not, hence why I label myself as agnostic.

Not entirely. As explained above, Atheism isn't a position based off of faith, it's a position based off of logical reasoning, and subject to change upon evidence.

Limited logical reasoning that allows you to conclude a likely decision based on what we understand of the universe today.

However in the end you aren't able to test or prove that theory as a scientific fact hence you have to be open to the possibility that might be incorrect as well. Therefore you have to take a leap of faith that based on your science of today that you are correct.

Granted its a more logical faith, but its still faith based when it comes down to it.

Like I said I lean more toward the Atheist side, but we really have no factual evidence to suggest that we know exactly what is beyond our universe , the meaning of life, or whether some alien kid created our universe as a computer science 101 level class. Hence ultimately deep down I'm agnostic.

originally posted by: interupt42
OMG are you suggesting that Donald Trump passed Gods test?

Very interesting response.

I do believe you are the first to bring up Donald Trump...

originally posted by: interupt42
I'm agnostic solely because I can't fathom something coming from nothing...

That is ALSO not based on factual testable evidence...

And about those gut feelings and leaps of faith...

God always gives proof before He expects faith.

My own personal experiences are what actually convinced me.

I had a supernatural encounter in 1979 that left me literally knowing that not only was God alive and well, but that He had also authored a book.

Rest assured if it ever happens to you, silly will be the very last thought going through your mind.

We do agree on one thing: religion was created by man as a method of control.

It's actually one of the most powerful forms of mind control ever devised.

The purpose behind it?

To keep us from finding the truth.

You mentioned that you don't know the REAL answer.

That is subject to change at any time.

Agnostics believe that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.

You are eventually going to find out that this is a lie.

The sooner you learn this truth the better...

I only speak of what I have experienced myself personally.

Wisdom is only gained through experience.

I think nothing was lost, just forgotten. Due to our way of life we are to bounded by materialism to figure out anything about god. When you start to shed out of this skin, than a whole new prospective will open op. When I was on water fast for two to three weeks, there were many new thoughts and certain clarity with them.
Everything is connected and if you want to know the unknown, you have to drop that which you think and start to experience it directly. Thinking will not get you anywhere when it comes to god. That is why meditation is the key in my opinion. You can train the mind to be silent and than what is hidden comes to surface.

Also when I say god. I do not mean a being like in Christian faith, but more of a primordial force of creation. From where gods, us and animals have come to be.

a reply to: Ghost147

relax I was just poking you a bit : )
Nothing serious that is why I laughed at the end of the statement.

a reply to: Joesepth

One of the most beautiful things I've ever read is Johnathan Livingston Seagull by Richard Bach


Not a single person on this planet knows what life is truly all about, but that book gives me hope. I recommend everyone read it a few times in their life. You can literally read it in a single day.

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: rukia
a reply to: Ghost147

Actually, all the proof is that God does exist and did just that. Why? Heck if I know. I'm not God. But I could go around and call you extremely delusional and needing to get out and see the world, too. So then you really have to question your perspective, right? It's a bit too extreme to just jump to calling people delusional over the 'proof' of whatever that you perceive as being in the video. Did it make me question what I believe? Nope, not really. Does that make me delusional or just certain in my beliefs? Both believing in God and not believing in God involve a certain amount of faith. So, do whatever you want, I don't think you're delusional--just human. Just like me.

If there's proof, then it's testable. If it's not testable, then it's not tangible proof, it's subjective perception, which is not evidence.

We do have evidence that everything forms naturally, and there hasn't been anything to suggest otherwise yet. Sorry, but you're misunderstanding what the term 'evidence' really applies to.

You're also misapplying the word 'faith'. I do not hold a religious-faith that there is no god, just as I don't hold a religious-faith that there is no invisible pink unicorns. There simply isn't anything that suggests the existence of god or invisible pink unicorns, so logically, there is no reason to believe in them. I have faith that when I jump up, i'll come back down. Again, that is not "religious-faith". You're confusing the variant terminologies.

" We have evidence that everything forms naturally" ? What is everythig? Does everything that you say include consicousnessness? Then how does consciousness form? Does consciosuness only exist within the mind? What came first awareness or consciousness?......No we don't even know how gravity works because if we did we could overcome it and have antigravity machines. So if we dont know how one of the fundamental forces of the univerese work it then sorry we dont "know " what you think we know."

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: MrConspiracy

Interesting isn't it? It made me more certain there is "something" whatever you want to call him/it/her/them "god"?

The notion I was referring to was that which holds humanity as the prime focal point of a god's creation. I can see how one could attribute the existence of this vast universe as a product of a god, and that's perfectly reasonable. However, to claim that Humans are the best of it all is just arrogant and ridiculous.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy

And what evidence?

We have only observed things coming into formation through natural sources.

Oh im with you 100% on that one. I think we're just a small part of a huuuuge picture.

The fact of the matter is, there is simply no way to discover why we exist. The possibilities range from the most logical, to the most illogical such as being part of an experiment conducted by more advanced beings. The Universe is so vast, and populated by other beings, we could simply be one life form out of thousands!

We are here to Love.
Love is the meaning of Life.

Matthew 5:9 King James Version (KJV)

9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Luke 6:35-36 King James Version (KJV)

35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

a reply to: Joesepth

Really enjoyed the video, thanks OP!

I bet you (and many people here) may have heard Carl Sagan’s quote “we are the universe experiencing itself.” This makes a lot of sense to me, thought I can’t explain this quote anywhere near as eloquently as this person on reddit did. If you have a moment, check out the top rated comment on this post. I have a feeling it’d be against terms and conditions to post someone else's work myself (the guy/girl's use name is: scomberscombrus) but I found his/her explanation of the quote valuable:

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