Dr. Henry Makow. A conspiracist or just simply bigotry, paranoia and insanity?

a reply to: Dylan86

No I'm an atheist who because of my lack of belief in a supreme being disqualifies me from becoming a Freemason.

The closest connection I have with Fremasonry is my grandfather was a Freemason/I have some friends and friends of my parents who are also Freemasons but that doesn't change my valid criticism of people like Makow.

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog

originally posted by: Dylan86

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog

Are you affiliated with masonry by any chance? Be honest.

The closest connection I have with Fremasonry is my grandfather was a Freemason and I have some friends/ friends of my parents who are Freemasons and that doesn't change my valid criticism of people like Makow.

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog

originally posted by: Dylan86

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog

Are you affiliated with masonry by any chance? Be honest.

The closest connection I have with Fremasonry is my grandfather was a Freemason and I have some friends/ friends of my parents who are Freemasons and that doesn't change my valid criticism of people like Makow.

How did Dr Makow damage the right wing? Is this your opinion or do you have some sort of statistics showing the 'damage' he has caused?

a reply to: Dylan86

He's done damage to the right wing because people like him say ridiculous things that help negate valid criticism of groups/beliefs and people like him have helped push moderate right wingers to the left (this was done during a time where the left has pushed many to the center).

Here is just one example and look at how ridiculous this article is about gay people and his theory that normalizing gay people proves the Illuminati are real. Here are some of my favorite parts of his article

"Apart from false-flag 9-11, nothing better demonstrates Illuminati subversion than their attempt to make us behave like homosexuals."

"Thanks to feminism, which in many ways is lesbian, the day is fast approaching when heterosexuals will lose interest in the opposite sex. They will decide the other sex has nothing to offer in terms of love, marriage and family. The new family model will be single parents or homosexuals raising the products of one-night stands and sperm clinics."

"In reality, healthy men and women naturally find homosexual sex repugnant"

"In spite of the fact that homosexuality is usually the result of father-loss or sexual assault, the Illuminati is foisting this disability on society."

"They are using the tired guilt tactics they used in promoting their other "oppressed minorities" for socially subversive ends. They accuse people like me of "intolerance" and bigotry. I "hate" homosexuals because I don't want to become one. "Homosexual rights" disguises a vicious underhanded attack on heterosexuals. Yet, most heterosexuals are oblivious to it."

Link to article :www.henrymakow.com...

He's also does this with Feminism. I also find it funny that he's a pretty big Islamic apologist but it doesn't shock me for several reasons.

a reply to: deliberator

when certain people are touted as disinfo agents yet they expose things like he does make sure you take extra care in reading what he talks about,

do not believe what they say, just take it on board and over the next year or couple of years you can see if what they say fits in
the amount of people I have woken up by having a chat with them and telling them what the world is really like. they always never believe me at the start as teaching people that there governments are there to reduce your lifespan and are full of paedophiles is a bit hard to get your head around yet they come back a year later and all say they understand what I was telling them. the only way of waking people up is to show them the door then they can see for themselves

one of makows best stories that I came across on his site is about hitlers sister writing her book exposing the fact that the british military seem to of kidnapped him for 9 months when they came over to England in 1912 and brainwashed him.

now this completely fits in with the fact that the german royal family took over the british crown in 1910 and left there cousin Kaiser Wilhelm in charge, WW1 and WW2 were just about reducing the population by the ruling classes this is why the ruling classes pretend to be jews so they can hide behind the holocaust (which means burnt offering)

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
a reply to: Dylan86

He's done damage to the right wing because people like him say ridiculous things that help negate valid criticism of groups/beliefs and people like him have helped push moderate right wingers to the left (this was done during a time where the left has pushed many to the center).

Here is just one example and look at how ridiculous this article is about gay people and his theory that normalizing gay people proves the Illuminati are real. Here are some of my favorite parts of his article

"Apart from false-flag 9-11, nothing better demonstrates Illuminati subversion than their attempt to make us behave like homosexuals."

he is trying to wake people up just because you do not understand what he is talking about that is no reason to call him a liar you clearly do not understand that males are being chemically poisoned through the chemicals mimicking womens oestrogen like sodium lauryl sulphate, mercury and bisphenol A
as well as the foods that are high in oestrogen like soy hops dairy

the even spray a chemical called Atrazine on the crops as a pesticide this has virtually no effect on killing pests yet gets evaporated up into the air and falls on everyone when it rains

how do you think they keep the population down, in the phillipines almost 80% of the males there are gay

hopefully this will put you on the right path and you won't try and put people off of what is really going on and you will research this further

a reply to: jinni73

I think you might not understand the article since what I linked to was dealing with the claim that the Illuminati are pushing for the acceptance of gay marriage and has nothing to do with chemicals making people gay. The only thing that is close to what you are talking in that article is him claiming "A small minority may have been "born that way" because of a testosterone imbalance during gestation.". Are you sure 80% of the males in the Philippines are gay and can you please post a link to a creditable website proving that? I think you might of mixed up that stats with the fact that some polls show that close to 80% of the Philippines believe society should accept homosexuality. I would think If they really wanted to keep the population down then they wouldn't of cracked down on prescription pills like they did since that was killing tons of people and making doctors ton's of money plus they aren't doing a very good job either.


Edit: I also never called him a liar, what I did say is that he says some ridiculous crap.

a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog
I have a friend that lives in the phillipines
everything comes in plastic

and you started off by implying he is manipulating people's thinking

He's done damage to the right wing because people like him say ridiculous things that help negate valid criticism of groups/beliefs and people like him have helped push moderate right wingers to the left (this was done during a time where the left has pushed many to the center).

He is pointing out an extremely valid point and waking people up by showing people whats going on is not wrong the reason the politicians and ruling class are allowed to keep us as slaves and constantly poison us and subvert our thinking is people do not know the truth
nothing better demonstrates Illuminati subversion than their attempt to make us behave like homosexuals."

so poisoning people as well as mass propaganda into accepting being gay is not what makow is trying to draw peoples attention to?

What other people do is there business I appreciate you don't want to become gay but by you talking about it as well as stating it encourages narcissism and you are playing right into the hands of the ruling class,


your thoughts should stay as your thoughts it means nothing to anyone else what you think and by stating it then you are asking for trouble narcissism is another ruling class tool, they use It to divide us exactly the same way as 9/11 was used as is turning people gay this is then foisted upon us by the lowlife journalists who willingly sell there souls in order to get a job

They accuse people like me of "intolerance" and bigotry. I "hate" homosexuals because I don't want to become one.

the thing is if you are being chemically poisoned then you cannot help the way you are and ultimately it is not your fault.

I can take this off on tangents that show other things all being connected like the Vietnam war being used to kill American citizens who were offered jail or go to Vietnam then memos that surfaced showing American generals giving the Vietnamese troop movements.

and pharmaceutical drugs and the insane way doctors practise are most definitely killing more people today than at any time in history virtually every drug on the market is designed to reduce your life expectancy the average life expectancy of an American today is 69 years old (when I can find the proof which is on herbalist tony pantallerescos site I will mail it to you or maybe I will do a thread)

all politicians are there for is to make you think you have a choice worrying about right left or centre is a complete waste of your time now if you were talking about introducing MRI scanning for politicians then you would not be.

originally posted by: jinni73
a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

I have a friend that lives in the phillipines
everything comes in plastic

So you don't have a link showing 80% of men in the Philippines are gay and you proof is you have a friend in the Philippines? If 80% of the population was gay I don't think their population would of gone up from 26 million to over 98 million since the 60's, it's gone up from 77 million to 98 in just 13 years (stats from 2000-2013).



It's true some of the crap he says (there are plenty of right wingers who say similar things) has helped certain groups who deserve valid criticism.



Wait you actually believe the Illuminati are trying to turn you gay? If the Illuminati were trying to keep everyone divided then wouldn't be pushing for gay marriage to be accepted by society since they would be bringing them together on that topic, which is something they are against. If anything they would be the ones behind the anti-gay movement and pushing for society to treat gay people differently.



Again you claimed the article was about the Illuminati using chemicals to turn people gay and he doesn't really bring up that up in the article.



What are you even talking about? How does pointing out someone for saying really stupid things lead to narcissism and playing into the hands of the "elite"?




So you really trying to tell someone who you disagree with to keep their opinions to themselves on a forum which was pretty much started so people can discuss things and share their opinion/facts?





Except just last year life expectancy in the USA hit a record high and it's at 78.8 years. www.usatoday.com...

Since these dangerous narcotic pills were doing a good job of killing so many people (plus making people tons of money) then why would the government crack down so strongly on them? They wouldn't of forced people to buy health insurance and Europe wouldn't have government run healthcare.

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a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

If you think the figures they show you are true then you are wrong. they are not doing it to turn people gay they are doing it to reduce the population

I'm trying to show you that stating you hate gays falls into the hands of the ruling class in creating narcissism

sorry you can't step outside the box and see what is really going on I was not having a go

and rather than me waste my time on trying to wake you up I'll let you carry on preaching hate

a reply to: jinni73

1. Where is the data showing they are wrong?

2. I never said I hated gay people? I was bashing Makow for his views on gay people/not accepting them which means I was kind of standing up for gay people. How do you get I hate gay people from my comments and how does hating gay people make someone a narcissist? You do realize what a narcissist is right? I've never heard someone call another person a narcissist for disliking gay people.
3. You could of just said I have nothing to counter your points so I'll claim you are narrow minded.

4. How am I preaching hate? Please quote my hate speech and don't run away. I hope you also go look up the definition of hate speech and then read up on what Narcissistic personality disorder truly is.

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
a reply to: Dylan86

No I'm an atheist who because of my lack of belief in a supreme being disqualifies me from becoming a Freemason.

I am told, and know from my own acquaintances as confirmation, that atheism is not a precluder from entry. A creative and intelligent mind can find a way of integrating a supreme being into their world view without that having to be defined as "God" in any traditional sense. Atheism may prevent you from entering into some of the side degrees, but not the initial three (going by UGLE rules, the US, Blue Rite, may be different in that though).

a reply to: deliberator
They silence everyone who speaks the truth but they don't silence people who try to mislead and throw people off the trail,
this is why we know ben fulford, david icke and alex jones are all working for the ruling classes make em look like nutters and then the majority won't take any notice,
Look at Icke saying I'm the son of god immediately 95% of people will not take a blind bit of notice and he tells the truth pretty much he exposed jimmy saville but he did not expose that the BBC were behind the execution of jill dando because she was investigating the pedo ring there now why tell everyone about one person when it is 50% of the staff involved in this ring.

a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

The data re longevity is on this site but I don't know where it is when I come across it I will post it up but I guarantee you the average lifespan of Americans is only 69 would you rather believe your government do you not think it would look a little bad on them? look at fluoride there has been a 9 year study by pubmed in Iowa on the effects of fluoride on preventing dental cavities and there has been no difference in using it or not and that is over 9 years infact there have been warning by scientists as well as scientific papers on toxnet that fluoride is lethal for people with diabetes. now do you really think your government are a safe source to get your information from

Narcissism is about dividing people, I'm right your wrong, self interest or self centered,
meaning, [you are gay and that is wrong because I think its wrong] ultimately everything is about dividing people

I thought you said you hated gay people because you did not want to be one yourself, maybe I read it wrong but that is most definitely hate speech maybe I read it wrong but it came from your post this is what I copied from it:
They accuse people like me of "intolerance" and bigotry. I "hate" homosexuals because I don't want to become one.

and my initial comment was in response to [people become gay because there fathers are not there or something like that]
so I commented on that because you are wrong in fact a weak father (or non existent father) and strong mother is what militaries especially look for as they bond far better into a unit and will do pretty much anything they are told some examples of people who the army recruited based on this trait were lee Harvey Oswald timothy McVeigh and Jeffrey dahmer recognise any of these names

So when people are wrong I like to put them onto the right path as misinformation is the reason we are divided which is going to get us all killed.
so point number 3 of yours shows that maybe I was right and you do not like being wrong therefore your need to attack me who only means to help, maybe makow is not banging on about chemical poisoning but to change the hard wiring of the brain is going to take more than my dad isn't about,
and you still don't want to learn I picked that up from your point number 3 so where does that leave the world you spouting misinformation and calling people narrow minded when it is you that is not willing to learn.

and to do with the numbers concerning population increase in the phillipines is just a question of mathematics you have X amount of people even when the birth figures are getting less due to the increased amount of people the population will still rise, and anyway the overall population figures are wrong the typhoon killed 40 thousand people on one island yet the official death toll is just 7400. now I don't know about you but this to me means someone is lying. and what about the number of sex tourists that go over there do you not think they get pregnant and then they have a steady income normally I know two people paying for kids abroad.

you can believe whatever you want but the truth is always going to be the truth and If I read your comments wrong it does not matter does it people make mistakes I only pointed out the truth and you refuse to even take it on board and do further research into the matter so that shows us that you are happy to live in ignorance, and that should worry you

a reply to: jinni73

It's kind of hard to trust a guy when he makes claims like this "I can attest to the fact they (Chemtrails) are real...I lived in Arizona for about 2 years and seen first hand the experimenting going on there...there was not a day in the sky that you did not see a pattern being weaved....One day I even seen the ozone torn....blue sky on each side of a black dark line which allowed us to see outer space...in broad daylight...there was an airplane flying in the same wake spouting out another powdery material to seal it up. Here are some links that may inform you more....there are things as well that". Not to mention the links of good info to chemtrail websites show me all I need to know about the guy (I hate to throw the baby out with the bath water but in this case it's very telling especially when you can't even give me a link to his study).

Did you read the article I first linked to (the one you claimed I didn't understand)? If that's how you feel then you would believe Henry Mankow is the one dividing people because all I was doing was quoting him and pointing out how ridiculous that article is. The quote "They accuse people like me of "intolerance" and bigotry. I "hate" homosexuals because I don't want to become one" was a direct quote from the article I first linked to and you can click on the article or read my comment again where before that quote appears I said "Here is just one example and look at how ridiculous this article is about gay people and his theory that normalizing gay people proves the Illuminati are real. Here are some of my favorite parts of his article". Everything I said that was negative about gay people came from his article which I was using to show just one tiny example of what type of person this guy is.


You're proof that is supposed to change my mind is from a website that you admit you can't even find this ground breaking study to back up your statements (it's hard to take someone serious when they believe the websites he linked are good/legit info for his readers) and you have a friend in the Philippines which is good enough evidence when it comes to 80% of their male population being gay.

a reply to: jinni73

Makow websites is literally all about dividing people and in just 3 articles (randomly picked to prove a point) he went after/claimed Communist, certain Christians, Jews, Freemasons, Feminist, Atheist, and college professors are wrong/bad for society.

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
a reply to: jinni73

Makow websites is literally all about dividing people and in just 3 articles (randomly picked to prove a point) he went after/claimed Communist, certain Christians, Jews, Freemasons, Feminist, Atheist, and college professors are wrong/bad for society. Were you not the first one to claim (wrongly by the way) I was preaching hate, I don't understand what Makow was saying in his article (even though you pretty much admitted I was correct that the article had nothing to do with males being chemically poisoned through the chemicals mimicking womens oestrogen), I hate gay people, I'm asleep, and encouraging narcissism?

a reply to: nancyliedersdeaddog

One of my closest friends is a Freemason. He told me about 10 years ago. I never did question him about it at that time and he never offered any further information.

Hang on ... I remember he did say he was telling me in confidence and also had a "I know something that you don't" kind of expression.

a reply to: jinni73

I did not realise this thread was still active (only just sussed how to check thread on my profile page). Getting late here so will catch up tomorrow.

I think Atrazine is banned in the EU.