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I don't know seems to be the common answer in both these pressers.

Another suspect has been detained. They are not sure whether he was involved or not....

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
anyone notice they are being real careful not to say the race of the suspects.

That's police talk for "not white."

a reply to: CalibratedZeus

Except people are usually more afraid of what they dont know...

They're speaking live about one suspect still at large. Talking about he may want to hijack someone's car, etc, etc and don't bother to offer any kind of description.

Great sleuthing. So everyone in San Bern, be on the look out for a male. Don't talk to males and if a male approaches you call 911 immediately!

originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
Told you guys. I was listening to TWO scanners for hours and no ID or race involved, none POST apprehension..POST mortem...POST everything...

No ID, no names, no race, no nationality....

Laughing my FARKING ARSE OFF

Except...they put out the Farooq name over six hours ago. It's an ongoing investigation with who knows what other links involved.

They didn't confirm the Colorado Springs shooter's identity until hours and hours after the incident was fully over.

This is BULLSHOIT. They won't give ANYTHING. Not even age or name...nothing. The "Farooq" guy is one that washed out. THREE either dead or in custody.

GMAN who spoke at the press conference said it all with his mannerisms.

READ BETWEEN THE LINES. This is CRAP and now they're pulling politics. It STINKS.

originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
Another suspect has been detained. They are not sure whether he was involved or not....

He said that that is the 3rd suspect (the one who ran away).

Yeah people if this was a 'right wing nutter'.

Everything would be out on the table already.

They are doing everything they can to bury stuff.

So 2 are dead and 1 may still be at large if that one person detained isn't evolved.

originally posted by: sirlancelot
Love how they can't even give ethnicity! How hard is it? I smell cover up. Islamic Terror attack most likely but will be sold as work place violence.

I'm sure the FBI is already scrubbing the dead attackers online blueprint as not to leave connection to Islam.

They don't want to rock any boats until everyone is in custody or dead. Think about it. If they release names, they may spur people that know the perps to help in some way. If they release races, they may incite racial violence in the area, and who does that help?

a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Is the Farooq guy one that is dead?

I know that name was said a while ago, but how do we know he is one of the deceased?

Ok getting some more on that, if it was the Farooq guy that left, guess he is the one that came back with two people.

Any model make of the weapons and or additional magazine(s) yet?

Now we have confirmation a suspect is a US citizen, still no race.

Hellooooo McFly!!

Stringing us along

since we know what houses they are raiding.. you can find the address from google maps and spend two bucks on intellious.com to see who owns yhe houses... we should know who these people are already... ugh.. i gotta do everything.. brb

originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
The longer they withhold the suspects names, ID, objective, etc...the more I'm getting pissed.

We'd better get some info soon

Wow. Have patience. Don't be in such a hurry....

Sorry, that was a song I listened to as a kid.

Anyway, they will release the info when they figure everything out. This is a HUGE scene and there is a TON of evidence, info, witness statements, etc. to gather.

Doubt it will be today, maybe tomorrow.

But, stay tuned to this thread or to the PD scanner that has been linked on Broadcastify to listen live.

FBI getting involved means it is more than just a local domestic dispute.

originally posted by: Kuroodo
So 2 are dead and 1 may still be at large if that one person detained isn't evolved.

One male, one female dead (both from the SUV0, 3rd "person" has been detained but they say this person may not actually be involved...

I've NEVER seen them so sensitive about any descriptive info (all we have is male vs. female, alive or dead)

And although they DON'T think it's terrorism, they aren't giving any other reasons as to keeping descriptive details so guiet? This is rancid..

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: BatheInTheFountain

Is the Farooq guy one that is dead?

I know that name was said a while ago, but how do we know he is one of the deceased?

I couldn't even tell from the presser if he's even involved. The Chief was asked and refused to say whether he was one of the ones who returned or not.

originally posted by: tonycodes
since we know what houses they are raiding.. you can find the address from google maps and spend two bucks on intellious.com to see who owns yhe houses... we should know who these people are already... ugh.. i gotta do everything.. brb

Spend two bucks to find someone online? Nahh, too many public records that are available. Of course, intelius is much faster.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
FBI getting involved means it is more than just a local domestic dispute.

14-20 people dead means it's more than a local domestic dispute.