San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

originally posted by: butcherguy
My ten year old son had a lock down drill at his school today. I was happy to hear that.
I suppose there were a lot of those performed in schools across America today.

All considered, I couldn't be happier that we home school! Mine won't be there if anything happens in the schools here. I don't mind the schools being prepared, but I also don't like the idea that parents can't get to their kids, and get them safe, in some situations. That's not an easy issue.

originally posted by: MRuss
a reply to: MRuss

WHY IS THIS NOT A DISCUSSION ABOUT BORDER CONTROL AND TERRORISM?

Cuz the shooter was born and raised in the USA? Not everyone with brown skin snuck across a border?

a reply to: research100

no where in the article does it say a heated argument, and no where other than one person saying that she was told that,
from your source,

Kuuleme Stephens said she had happened to call Thalasinos while he was at work and having a discussion with Farook. Thalasinos identified Farook by name and told her the 28-year-old believed Islam was a peaceful religion. She added that Farook said that Americans do not understand Islam.

the daily mail is just one step above a supermarket tabloid rag, and you are just exaggerating and making sh@@ up.

first double post in a long time.

originally posted by: marg6043
For anybody interested to find out if US have a terrorist network been under surveillance this a link to the latest one, sadly after 2007 is not more updates.

www.investigativeproject.org...

Below are a few more good maps...

The first one is an interactive map at the same site you linked.

IPT's new interactive terror history map highlights cases of terror plots, terror financing and other radical activities in the United States during the past 20 years. You'll see three categories across the top of the map that can be turned off or on, depending on what you're interested in seeing.

One category identifies several mosques and Islamic centers. Given today's debates over mosque construction it is important to be clear about what the map represents. There are hundreds, if not thousands of mosques in the United States. We list but a few dozen.

In some of these examples, we learned about the activity only through the work of undercover law enforcement agents, informants and cooperating witnesses who helped root out extremists, foil terrorist plots and intercept terrorists' financial transactions.

Established Islamist groups have heatedly attacked law enforcement officials, casting their use of informants as part of a plot to set up Muslims. Though a staple of criminal investigations of all kinds, undercover operations should not breach the doors of a mosque, they say.

Click here to take a look at the updated IPT terror history map. You'll see plenty of cases in which law enforcement stopped bad things from happening and a few instances in which terrorists still were able to strike.

www.investigativeproject.org...#

The recent terror attack at the Boston Marathon prompted the Guardian’s Simon Rogers (who will soon be Twitter’s Simon Rogers) to look into the history of attacks on U.S. soil. Using data from the START Global Terrorism Database, Rogers mapped every recorded terrorist incident in the U.S. from 1970 to 2011.

Every recorded U.S terror attack 1970-2011

1,052 mass shootings in 1,066 days: this is what America's gun crisis looks like. The mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, is the deadliest in the US since a gunman killed 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in December 2012. “We have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world,” Barack Obama said on Wednesday.

Data compiled by the crowd-sourced website ShootingTracker.com reveals a shocking human toll: there is a mass shooting – defined as four or more people shot in one incident – nearly every day. (Updated on 3 Dec 2015)

www.theguardian.com...

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Fox News reported that there was an argument as well, and that it was over whether or not Islam was a peaceful religion. The person who Farook argued with was among those killed. Seems to me that he started the argument as an excuse to leave, perhaps. Then, they did what they did, went home for more supplies, and were likely planning too do more when the cops showed up.

Australian Here. Long time lurker. I finally need to sign up.

What is happening in America? Can you not see the problem? Twice the amount of civilians have been killed in the USA by a gun than civilians killed by ISIL.

This happens in no other place in the world. It's not a coincidence. 30 murders a day and instead of proposing gun control so families can live long happy safe lives.... It's the usual Murica #1 ra ra ra. Guns saves lives. It's a joke.

353 Mass shooting in a year and all Americans have to offer is thought and prayers. No action. It's downright shameful.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

that was the day of the shooting, what this member said was from a link that said a argument happened a couple weeks ago.

a reply to: AusLevelhead

WElcome aboard, you do sound like the propaganda to take our guns away I must say however.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

here is the link the member postwww.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: tonycodes
Glitchy tonight. So far I have only had one double post and two post were eaten.

Your post got double cloned.

i know it got posted a bunch.. maybe someone upstairs thinks the presidents selfish rhetoric finally affected someone and backfired and want my post to be seen lol im not gonna go on here about this and derail this thread.. ill continue my impeachment call in the thread regarding the neighbor not wanting to be labeled a rascist.

originally posted by: AusLevelhead
Australian Here. Long time lurker. I finally need to sign up.

What is happening in America? Can you not see the problem? Twice the amount of civilians have been killed in the USA by a gun than civilians killed by ISIL.

This happens in no other place in the world. It's not a coincidence. 30 murders a day and instead of proposing gun control so families can live long happy safe lives.... It's the usual Murica #1 ra ra ra. Guns saves lives. It's a joke.

353 Mass shooting in a year and all Americans have to offer is thought and prayers. No action. It's downright shameful.

Unfortunately, we have many "Urban" cities here which have such a high rate of killings, the data is disproportionate and skewed. The LARGE percentage of gun owners, roughly 99%, pose no threat.

But if you research our cities like Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, etc. you will see the data slants the overall numbers on a huge spike.

Hope that helps

a reply to: tonycodes

So it's Obama's fault the neighbor didn't report these men because she feared being a racist? That doesn't make any sense. First off, who would have thought of her a racist? The police? Because I surely doubt as the police investigated her claim they would have told anyone and everyone why they're investigating suspicious Muslims. Did anyone ever consider she never meant to report anything and only had these thoughts/statements after the fact to feel important now that shes in the media? Perhaps she was too busy and distracted by her own life to care and put much thought into those Muslims.

originally posted by: AusLevelhead
Australian Here. Long time lurker. I finally need to sign up.

What is happening in America? Can you not see the problem? Twice the amount of civilians have been killed in the USA by a gun than civilians killed by ISIL.

This happens in no other place in the world. It's not a coincidence. 30 murders a day and instead of proposing gun control so families can live long happy safe lives.... It's the usual Murica #1 ra ra ra. Guns saves lives. It's a joke.

353 Mass shooting in a year and all Americans have to offer is thought and prayers. No action. It's downright shameful.

You have not a clue, we have gun control and plenty of it, and guess what, murder is illegal , yes we have laws for murder, no more gun control is needed, and BTW everything you said is not true.

a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

Where did you hear/read/see reports that others have been witnessed in the garage?

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes

originally posted by: texasgirl
I can't figure out why they executed their plan so well and escaped but stayed in town, driving around for hours before being caught and killed.

Were they awaiting further instruction and were all of a sudden abandoned? Any ideas?

I think they were planning to do a lot more, and were surprised when police showed up at the home. They could easily have planned multiple attacks.

Think about it...these crazed extremists were making bombs while their 6 month old baby was lying in a crib just feet away.

a reply to: antar
Lol. One post and I'm done. 12k murders. A failing economy. A foreign policy that supports terrorism and you're all so blind you can't take critisicm.

I'll say this once. This happens no where else ion the world and prayer is nothing but an empty platitude to santa. This requires actions.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
a reply to: tonycodes
Glitchy tonight. So far I have only had one double post and two post were eaten.

Your post got double cloned.

Glitchy here all evening too. Glad it's not just my computer.

So this guy had some grand plan of total destruction on par with anything we've seen here in the U.S. since 9/11 and this is how it turned out? Thank God it was only this bad.
The person at the party probably called Mohamed a goat humper and homeboy flew into a fit of rage and got the wifey and the rest is history.
Am I getting this right?

I feel bad for the brother .. he served this country in a honorable way as a Information System Technician on the USS Enterprise and his brother turned against this country. This must be truly painful.

Remember this is not religion, this is terrorism and if Islam stands for Terrorism that it can't be a religion.