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Among other far-right views, Dunbar says she opposes the separation of church and state since she believes the founders wanted the government to promote religion. After leaving the school board, Dunbar admitted that she tried to shape the state’s curriculum in order to cure America of being a “biblically illiterate society” by teaching “the ‘laws of nature’s God’ revealed through the Holy Scripture.”
That came as no surprise, as Dunbar once led the board in praying for “a Christian land governed by Christian principles” and asserting that the Bill of Rights came straight out of the Bible. She similarly told a Washington, D.C., prayer rally that schools cannot instruct in an environment “devoid of the presence of the most high God,” praying for God to “invade our schools.” In a speech in favor of a sweeping anti-abortion bill, Dunbar asserted that lawmakers “don’t have the freedom to make any laws if they are contrary to what God has said in his Holy Scripture.”
Dunbar believes that the U.S. was designed to have “an emphatically Christian government” and must have a “biblical litmus test” for public officials, saying that they must have “sincere knowledge and appreciation for the Word of God in order to rightly govern.”
- See more at: www.rightwingwatch.org...
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Gryphon66
Where is your proof that nutjob PP shooter acted in the name of chistianity?
He has been labeled a "christian terrorist" by many here at ATS and elsewhere but there is no evidence of it.
If nutjob is a christian terrorist just because he happened to be christian, then McVeigh is an agnostic terrorist by the same definition.
Fair enough, semantically you're absolutely accurate.
Now, would you address my question?
Did McVeigh kill for "agnostic principles"? If so, what were they?
Did Dear kill for "Christian (activist) principles, i.e. stopping the "baby murderers" at Planned Parenthood"?
Are you suggesting that there's no connection at all between activist Christianity and the anti-abortion movement?
originally posted by: woodwardjnr
It certainly doesn't help the situation. Neither side is trying to calm the situation, both sides are guilty of propaganda that promotes an unrealistic threat to the listeners/ viewers existence. It's the people who only believe one side and then surround themselves with that media narrative can become dangerous no doubt.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: dawnstar
Yep.
When my sisters and I were kids, our family had two pets...a dog and a cat. They got along for the most part, usually snuggling up together at night to keep warm, once in a while fighting over the same toy.
But lock them in a room and throw a piece of baloney on the floor (whole other story...psycho sister and so on) and they went at it to the point of blood, and dad had to run into the room and toss a sheet over them to calm them down.
I don't know what made me think of that. Maybe unplugging the TV is what more people need to do. I did mine in 2009 and only turn it on when something extreme is happening, but then can only take so much and have to pull the plug again.
Control. It's definitely about control. And we are all susceptible to one degree or another. And we're the only ones who can neutralize the effects of psychos penning us in and throwing baloney at us.
originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: onthedownlow
Keep in mind that Christians do not advocate murder.
Sure they do but they just put in a it's a punishment from God wrapper. Look at how they are wanting to put homosexuals to death.
Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death
Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma, got into a debate on Facebook last summer in which he advocated killing homosexuals. “I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.” When pressed, Esk added: "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it." Esk is running for the state's House of Representatives. The primary is scheduled for June 24. When contacted by Morris, who runs the news outlet Moore Daily, Esk didn't deny making the comments or back down from the rhetoric. "That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."
How is this not advocating murder? Oh yeah that's right it's "God's will".
originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
So the exact same people who keep on blaming obama for a comunist revival and an increase of racism in the usa cant talk about propaganda video that might have influenced a crazy man.
Blame everyone else and find excuses.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
It appears to me that a pattern of logical disconnect may be emerging in this thread.
What I mean by this is the apparent assumption being made that extremist rhetoric, from let's just say the left in this example, would only potentially ignite action from the, again in this example, left.
incendiary rhetoric from either "side" most definitely has the potential to affect actors on either or even both sides, depending on how the rhetoric is processed and reacted to.
originally posted by: LSU0408
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Gryphon66
Where is your proof that nutjob PP shooter acted in the name of chistianity?
He has been labeled a "christian terrorist" by many here at ATS and elsewhere but there is no evidence of it.
If nutjob is a christian terrorist just because he happened to be christian, then McVeigh is an agnostic terrorist by the same definition.
Fair enough, semantically you're absolutely accurate.
Now, would you address my question?
Did McVeigh kill for "agnostic principles"? If so, what were they?
Did Dear kill for "Christian (activist) principles, i.e. stopping the "baby murderers" at Planned Parenthood"?
Are you suggesting that there's no connection at all between activist Christianity and the anti-abortion movement?
Killing people that favor/have abortions is not a Christian principle. Just putting that out there as a true Christian.
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: LSU0408
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Gryphon66
Where is your proof that nutjob PP shooter acted in the name of chistianity?
He has been labeled a "christian terrorist" by many here at ATS and elsewhere but there is no evidence of it.
If nutjob is a christian terrorist just because he happened to be christian, then McVeigh is an agnostic terrorist by the same definition.
Fair enough, semantically you're absolutely accurate.
Now, would you address my question?
Did McVeigh kill for "agnostic principles"? If so, what were they?
Did Dear kill for "Christian (activist) principles, i.e. stopping the "baby murderers" at Planned Parenthood"?
Are you suggesting that there's no connection at all between activist Christianity and the anti-abortion movement?
Killing people that favor/have abortions is not a Christian principle. Just putting that out there as a true Christian.
NONE of the victims in the 'Dear' rampage were clients or employees of PP.
originally posted by: LSU0408
Killing people that favor/have abortions is not a Christian principle. Just putting that out there as a true Christian.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
It appears to me that a pattern of logical disconnect may be emerging in this thread.
What I mean by this is the apparent assumption being made that extremist rhetoric, from let's just say the left in this example, would only potentially ignite action from the, again in this example, left.
incendiary rhetoric from either "side" most definitely has the potential to affect actors on either or even both sides, depending on how the rhetoric is processed and reacted to.
originally posted by: LSU0408
Killing people that favor/have abortions is not a Christian principle. Just putting that out there as a true Christian.
originally posted by: ~Lucidity
But there were more than three victims....on a number of levels.
But where's the point here regardless?
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: LSU0408
Killing people that favor/have abortions is not a Christian principle. Just putting that out there as a true Christian.
Doesn't it take a rather incredible degree of what the Bible calls "pride" to claim that you, in your limited human understanding and belief, are absolutely correct and are following the the only "true" way?
Doesn't pride go before a fall if I remember correctly?