Is Murdering Another Human Wrong?

Not talking about killing, which may be justified.

Many agree that women who sleep around can abort their unborn children, if they have children during sexual intercourse.

All who reason this way, that I know, state that they don't know when a human becomes human.

I think it should be very easy to find out. Take the aborted corpse of the youngest child known give its DNA to an agency and ask what it is, without letting them know.

I'm about 100% sure the DNA will be human.

Those who have been taught human DNA evovles during pregnancy until the unborn human becomes human have been wildly mislead.

a reply to: Revolution9

Can't argue with that, kind sir.

a reply to: Revolution9

I see you added to your post after my response.

But the latter part you added shows you retorted yourself. It is wrong to murder a human? Is an unborn child a human? If so, what gives anyone a right to murder your child, if he is innocent?

originally posted by: JackReyes
I think it should be very easy to find out. Take the aborted corpse of the youngest child known give its DNA to an agency and ask what it is, without letting them know.

I'm about 100% sure the DNA will be human.

My hair have human DNA yet it's not a problem if I got to a barber to cut them.

Your argument that human DNA = human being is a fallacy.


Or do I commit a genocide each time I empty my balls?

a reply to: gggilll

How can it be genocide sperm are not people

Now let me ask you a question:

Is a family asking to unplug their terminally ill relative who has been in a coma for 10 years, a murder?

originally posted by: DOCHOLIDAZE1
a reply to: gggilll

How can it be genocide sperm are not people

Well, they are living organisms...

originally posted by: DOCHOLIDAZE1
a reply to: gggilll

How can it be genocide sperm are not people

Exactly so this DNA argument means nothing at all and we are still stuck with the philosophical question "when does a fetus actually becomes a person?"

a reply to: gggilll

So you are not your human genome? It started at conception, and every cell in you until you die is human.

Your complete human being from conception to death can be found in every living cell. Including your hair.

Or do you imagine a hair follicle will show you are not human?

What about women who get pregnant due to rape? ok i know some American politician's believe that its impossible to get pregnant due to being raped but hey ho when has facts ever got in the way of stupidity in politics.

originally posted by: JackReyes
a reply to: gggilll

So you are not your human genome?

Of course not.

True twins have the same original genome and are different beings.


Also, sorry but you are completely wrong, a human cell and a human being are two completely different things.

originally posted by: gggilll
Now let me ask you a question:

Is a family asking to unplug their terminally ill relative who has been in a coma for 10 years, a murder?

It can't be murder if, without outside help you die naturally.

originally posted by: JackReyes
a reply to: gggilll

So you are not your human genome? It started at conception, and every cell in you until you die is human.

Your complete human being from conception to death can be found in every living cell. Including your hair.

Or do you imagine a hair follicle will show you are not human?

The building materials don't exactly make the occupant. Ask identical multiples about that genome bit next.

originally posted by: gggilll

originally posted by: JackReyes
I think it should be very easy to find out. Take the aborted corpse of the youngest child known give its DNA to an agency and ask what it is, without letting them know.

I'm about 100% sure the DNA will be human.

My hair have human DNA yet it's not a problem if I got to a barber to cut them.

Your argument that human DNA = human being is a fallacy.


Or do I commit a genocide each time I empty my balls?

Your hair does not have DNA. Sperm DNA is not identical to human DNA.

Then there is the other problem of you doing that to yourself. It's your DNA. The unborn child does not have the mother's DNA, it's unique.

originally posted by: gggilll
Now let me ask you a question:

Is a family asking to unplug their terminally ill relative who has been in a coma for 10 years, a murder?

It's taking a human life.

a reply to: Nyiah

The sperm by itself carries only the genetic code of the male it is from. Conception creates a new human being.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: gggilll
Now let me ask you a question:

Is a family asking to unplug their terminally ill relative who has been in a coma for 10 years, a murder?

It's taking a human life.

I think what should be asked is why animals and humans are treated with completely different levels of compassion at death/euthanasia. Keeping a terminal,comatose animal plugged in for a decade would generate thunderous cries of abuse & inhumane treatment. Yet, that's fine to do to people. Why?

originally posted by: JackReyes
a reply to: Nyiah

The sperm by itself carries only the genetic code of the male it is from. Conception creates a new human being.

Dude, you missed the point. Your swimmers are alive.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: gggilll
Now let me ask you a question:

Is a family asking to unplug their terminally ill relative who has been in a coma for 10 years, a murder?

It's taking a human life.

I think what should be asked is why animals and humans are treated with completely different levels of compassion at death/euthanasia. Keeping a terminal,comatose animal plugged in for a decade would generate thunderous cries of abuse & inhumane treatment. Yet, that's fine to do to people. Why?

I work in geriatrics. I find it wrong when people refuse to let go.