Less we forget, Turkey does indeed have NUKES.

originally posted by: Timely
Relax, NATO along with the US and the rest of the rational world -

will not let Erdogan anywhere near the red button ...

I agree with you there, but wat if the nato boys use the button on a few targets and then blame Turkey ? ..hmm

a reply to: Obi88

What if Nibiru steals all the womin?

blame it on my ADD thread .. When will you people stop

On serious note what is the likelihood of Isis stealing one or buying one on black market

originally posted by: Layaly


blame it on my ADD thread .. When will you people stop

On serious note what is the likelihood of Isis stealing one or buying one on black market

I think the chances of them getting nuclear weapons is pretty good, most likely it would be claimed to be a stolen one if it ever did happen.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

That looks ugly !!!!

I would not be at all surprised to learn that Pakistan sold isis a nuke, isis is making a lot of money from its exports of crude oil.

Yep. There are nukes in Turkey. Mentioned it just the other day in another thread. As for those "buttons?" And the "authorization?" We live in a world of malevolent hacking and comm interception. Good luck to us all.

a reply to: Azureblue

The relationship between Turkey and Israel has degraded greatly since Erdogan's election. I highly doubt they are acting on Israel's behalf.

Turks however have historically dominated the region whenever not dominated by a colonial power (including the US). The US pullout of Iraq followed by the civil war in Syria left a vacuum that Turkey, Iran, and Saudi Arabia are all trying to fill.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

A buddy of mine currently stationed there was telling me a couple of weeks ago about how the Turks view anything in Turkey as belonging to Turks including US assets. He was telling me somethings I cant really mention here but needless to say the Turks are stuck to those things like flies on ---- and monitor all movement closely. I found this strange but then thought this would be an interesting vector for nukes falling into ISIS hands however I know nothing about how these devices operate so who knows if it would even be usable by them.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Yep. There are nukes in Turkey. Mentioned it just the other day in another thread. As for those "buttons?" And the "authorization?" We live in a world of malevolent hacking and comm interception. Good luck to us all.

From 1962, when John F Kennedy instituted PAL encoding on nuclear weapons, until 1977, the combination to fire the devastating missiles at the height of the Cold War was just 00000000.

This was chosen by Strategic Air Command in an effort to make the weapons as quick and as easy to launch as possible,


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you could not make it up

Turks had those weapons for long time and there never was any trouble pertaining to their existence .

Most people in Turkey have no idea there are Nuclear weapons in Turkish arsenal .

a reply to: NihilistSanta

They can use them as sexual devices for their wives for all the U.S. cares but they will never get the activation codes so they are useless. Good luck getting past the U.S. special forces guarding them with their lives. Not gonna happen. The U.S. would activate one and blow the base to high hell before anyone got them off the base. That or the base would be bombed to high hell if Turkey tried to keep them while evicting our troops.

originally posted by: 23432
Most people in Turkey have no idea there are Nuclear weapons in Turkish arsenal .

NATO arsenal.

France and UK have nuclear weapons under national authority. Turkey does not have weapons under national authority, only under NATO authority.

originally posted by: NihilistSanta
an interesting vector for nukes falling into ISIS hands however I know nothing about how these devices operate so who knows if it would even be usable by them.

No. Modern nuclear weapons produced by US have extensive safety controls and codes. There needs to be both coded commands for arming, and physical matching of deployment parameters, like going weightless for an ICBM or flying at altitude for an air-dropped weapon, for detonation to take place. The details are obviously very secured and not known publicly. They are very resistant to unauthorized manipulation and opening tends to result in permanent disablement.

In the long run, a state with technological capability could steal a few of them, extract the special nuclear materials (uranium, plutonium etc) and remanufacture them into a smaller number of less efficient lower technology warheads.

This would take a couple of years and presumes a technology and knowledge base for nuclear weapons production. ISIS couldn't. Iran could but they are enemies of ISIS.

The political implications however would be disasterous to anybody who tries to do this.

originally posted by: mbkennel

originally posted by: 23432
Most people in Turkey have no idea there are Nuclear weapons in Turkish arsenal .

NATO arsenal.

France and UK have nuclear weapons under national authority. Turkey does not have weapons under national authority, only under NATO authority.

I didn't realize that i was implying anything. Simply put , most Turks have no idea that they have Nato's nukes .
Furthermore they have no idea that these weapons are there for Turks to use if they are attacked .
Nato has the authority to grant permission , that is true but irrelevant to my point .

Why Don't "Suicide Terrorists" Ever Attack Politicians?Chuck a Golf Ball bomb at some western big-shot, or even a not-so-big-shot by now. Or bum-rushed a politician while detonating a 'suicide belt' -- or fired a rifle at one from close range.
But they haven't even attempted! Why is that?

I know why!!!.......they don't bite the hand that feeds them

a reply to: madenusa

The Tamil Tigers have done just that.

Also there was an aircraft crashing into the Pentagon once, and another on the way to the US Capitol.

In recent times, the security awareness is substantially stronger.

The terrorists may be seeking martyrdom, but they certainly do not want to fail or be caught---that isn't martyrdom, it is humiliation.

Modern Islamic terrorists prefer attacking random civilians to induce fear and the government reactions in order to increase the alienation between Muslims and non-Muslims living in non-Muslim countries. If they blew up a politician, then some of the country would say "eh, he was SOB anyway." Nobody likes politicians.

originally posted by: mbkennel
a reply to: madenusa

The Tamil Tigers have done just that.

Also there was an aircraft crashing into the Pentagon once, and another on the way to the US Capitol.

In recent times, the security awareness is substantially stronger.

The terrorists may be seeking martyrdom, but they certainly do not want to fail or be caught---that isn't martyrdom, it is humiliation.

Modern Islamic terrorists prefer attacking random civilians to induce fear and the government reactions in order to increase the alienation between Muslims and non-Muslims living in non-Muslim countries. If they blew up a politician, then some of the country would say "eh, he was SOB anyway." Nobody likes politicians.

Brainwashed tools of the New World Order Gang
Paid mercenaries controlled by the very same shadow government whose wholly-owned politicians are safe from "suicide assassins"

Bit of a long-ish but interesting read: Could U.S.-Russia Tensions Go Nuclear?

The backdrop for these concerns is that both the United States and Russia maintain their nuclear command posts and many hundreds of strategic nuclear warheads on hair-trigger alert. This is a long-standing practice, or habit, driven by the inertia of the Cold War. The two sides adopted the accident-prone tactic known as launch-on-warning in order to ensure that their strategic forces could be fired before incoming warheads arrived. President Barack Obama’s recent nuclear employment guidance reiterated the need to preserve this option. Our nuclear command system and forces practice it several times a week. So do the Russians.

And believe it or not, Russia has shortened the launch time from what it was during the Cold War. Today, top military command posts in the Moscow area can bypass the entire human chain of command and directly fire by remote control rockets in silos and on trucks as far away as Siberia in only 20 seconds.

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Yeah, that's the last resort for crazy Erdogan, since getting into conventional war with Russia will be a no-brainier for Turkey, even with NATO.

You need to read this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A guided missile carrier only has so many missiles.