Black lives matter movement = Domestic Terrorism

I have been thinking about the BLM since the Dartmouth College incident. It is my opinion it will not be long before these people will make the mistake and injure some innocent person, who just happened to be in the wrong place. The actions of this group leads me to believe that the whole lot of them should be arrested on domestic terrorism charges. The way they have abused the people they have interactions with is exactly the definition of what terrorism is. I am actually surprised that arrests have not been made yet.

How dare black people protest..Hyperbole much?If there's any "domestic terrorism" it's coming from the likes of the sikh temple shooter Wade Michael Page"www.foxnews.com...,and Dylan roof....

a reply to: greydaze

Here's the FBI definition of Domestic Terrorism for reference.

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

-Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
-Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
-Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

a reply to: watchitburn
Oh please..When did BLM gun down people of the opposite race?Btw,your little FBI reference could apply to any protesters.I.E tea party/occupy movement..

a reply to: Ceeker63

You need to learn the definition of Terrorism, you're fundamentally flawed in your notions.
For a start, there needs to be a violent act carried out to attempt to further a political or ideological ambition for someone to be called a terrorist.

Y'know, like that WHITE man who walked into Planned Parenthood and started shooting people.
Or those WHITE right-wing extremists who shot at BLM protesters.
Or the WHITE, CHRISTIAN, CONSERVATIVE Dylann Roof who walked into a predominantly black church and opened fire.

Seems you just think that those you don't like shouldn't have the same rights to protest as you. But then again, I would expect nothing less than complete hypocrisy and ignorance from the right-wing.

a reply to: Ceeker63

Washington Post article:

Even more black people were lynched in the U.S. than previously thought, study finds

Researchers said they determined that 3,959 black people were killed in “racial terror lynchings” in a dozen Southern states between 1877 and 1950.

Centre For American Progress article:

The Top 10 Most Startling Facts About People of Color and Criminal Justice in the United States

"1. While people of color make up about 30 percent of the United States’ population, they account for 60 percent of those imprisoned.

2. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime.

3. Students of color face harsher punishments in school than their white peers, leading to a higher number of youth of color incarcerated.

4. According to recent data by the Department of Education, African American students are arrested far more often than their white classmates.

5. African American youth have higher rates of juvenile incarceration and are more likely to be sentenced to adult prison.

6. As the number of women incarcerated has increased by 800 percent over the last three decades, women of color have been disproportionately represented.

7. The war on drugs has been waged primarily in communities of color where people of color are more likely to receive higher offenses.

8. Once convicted, black offenders receive longer sentences compared to white offenders.

9. Voter laws that prohibit people with felony convictions to vote disproportionately impact men of color.

10. Studies have shown that people of color face disparities in wage trajectory following release from prison."

Guardian article:

Black Americans killed by police twice as likely to be unarmed as white people

"Guardian analysis finds 102 people killed by police so far this year were unarmed, and that agencies are killing people at twice the rate calculated by US government".

The Counted (Interactive)

People killed this year by police: 1033

Highest proportion of killed are black, followed by Hispanic then Native American:

Race and ethnicity per million total killed:

Black: 6.25

Hispanic/Latino: 3.05

Native American: 3.04

White: 2.61

Can you not see how twisted this all is and what picture statistics and analysis are painting?

Martin Luther King assassinated by U.S Government:

The King Centre article:

Assassination Conspiracy Trial

"After four weeks of testimony and over 70 witnesses in a civil trial in Memphis, Tennessee, twelve jurors reached a unanimous verdict on December 8, 1999 after about an hour of deliberations that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy." - See more at: www.thekingcenter.org...

OP, you are not being conscious of this. See with your eyes how those who were enslaved and those who suffered genocide (Black and Native American) are clearly still getting the worst deal. There are so many statistics and analyses I could cite to prove it.

It is festering. It is boiling. It will not go away until this is resolved.







H.I.M. Haile Selassie I Speech to the United Nations (excerpt)
New York City, NY October 4, 1963

"...until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned: That until there are no longer first-class and second class citizens of any nation; That until the colour of a man's skin is of no more significance than the colour of his eyes; That until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race; That until that day, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of international morality will remain but a fleeting illusion, to be pursued but never attained; And until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in Angola, in Mozambique and in South Africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed; Until bigotry and prejudice and malicious and inhuman self-interest have been replaced by understanding and tolerance and good-will; Until all Africans stand and speak as free beings, equal in the eyes of all men, as they are in the eyes of Heaven; Until that day, the African continent will not know peace. We Africans will fight, if necessary, and we know that we shall win, as we are confident in the victory of good over evil..."

This is what you are up against you who would denigrate Black Americans. That goes for the other minorities, too.

I am on your side Black People and Native Americans. I want what Haile Selassie, Martin Luther King, Bob Marley and Black America wants...EQUALITY of status, equality of rights, statistics that show there is no discrimination and no proportionate difference in treatment.

I believe in the BLM cause, which is to finally gain equal treatment by law enforcement & judicial system. I also believe in universal healthcare; equal rights, protections & responsibilities for all members of society; the reallocation of our war budget towards domestic advancement projects; and a robust social safety net that eliminates homelessness & world hunger.

If that's your definition of a "domestic terrorist", it says more about you than it does about me.

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I have been thinking about the BLM since the Dartmouth College incident. It is my opinion it will not be long before these people will make the mistake and injure some innocent person, who just happened to be in the wrong place. The actions of this group leads me to believe that the whole lot of them should be arrested on domestic terrorism charges. The way they have abused the people they have interactions with is exactly the definition of what terrorism is. I am actually surprised that arrests have not been made yet.

So you want the government to arrest thousands of people because you disagree with their politics?

Forget terrorism ... that's the definition of fascism. Do they get trials, or do you just point out the guilty ones?

originally posted by: Ceeker63
I have been thinking about the BLM since the Dartmouth College incident. It is my opinion it will not be long before these people will make the mistake and injure some innocent person, who just happened to be in the wrong place. The actions of this group leads me to believe that the whole lot of them should be arrested on domestic terrorism charges. The way they have abused the people they have interactions with is exactly the definition of what terrorism is. I am actually surprised that arrests have not been made yet.

It is not domestic terrorism and I am glad to see it has been explained to you several times. I hope that clears that up for you.

a reply to: greydaze

It sure could.

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These protest are warranted and justified, but the 1.9.5.0 protest on the other hand are about sissy with hurt feelings!!!
They are putting their kind back pre civil rights era....pffft free space hahah segregation much?

PC people dont watch, your feelings might get hurt.

Rocker, here is the definition for terrorism according to Webster dictionary. I think the BLM have met all the benchmark to be call terrorist.
noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

a reply to: Rocker2013

For a start, there needs to be a violent act carried out to attempt to further a political or ideological ambition for someone to be called a terrorist

So , rioting ,burning , looting , murder , gang beatings , etc. do not count as violent acts?
Stop now.

Title of this thread = winning.

It's only a matter of time til these "activist" clowns become a threat to the safety of the rest of us.

My life matters.

I think anyone that takes over a library and terrorizes students and everyone inside the library should be arrested. The same holds true for the individuals that stop commerce just to make a point, about how they perceive themselves to be treated wrongly by law enforcement. I do not disagree that many black individuals have been killed by law enforcement. There have been many unwanted deaths of many people no matter what their skin color. There should be protest against that. However, where I draw the line is when the protest turn violent and aggressive. At that point that protestors becomes a mob. No one can deny that the BLM has been violent, aggressive and terroristic in the way they have treated individuals, and businesses.

BLM is BS. My parents were there when 'my' people were being firehosed in downtown Birmingham. My mother carried a police dog bite until the day she died.

Before we could vote. When there really were things to fight for, to protest for.

But hand in hand with some whitefolks we crossed bridges against REAL opposition.

But these entitled rich kids and pseudo-socialist wannabees? Now they get offended if they aren't catered to---back then, we were target practice. Literally.

Terrorist, maybe not, but misguided pawns without a doubt.

a reply to: [post=20083636]Ceeker63[/p
Man thats crazy about the dog bite. Blm Needs to change their tatics and flood the courts and use laws. Beat the system with their own weapons. I really understand the protests. The pain and anger is real. The feeling of no one cares is real. I just think screaming and disrupting things is going to villanise the cause. This whole thing sucks because children all get along. this division is killing us.

a reply to: Ceeker63
The Op stated that due to the Dartmouth college incident, that the BLM movement, should be considered a terrorist organization. To this end let us take a look at this fully:

While op believes it is a matter of time before someone is at the wrong place at the wrong time and they could get hurt, the reality it could happen. A person is intelligent, able to be swayed by reason and calm discussion, but a group, people are stupid, as then mob mentality tends to take over, and the actions of one person or persons can quickly escalate out of control.
But look at the message, the message is that they want to matter, to not be seen as a fringe element, there when just the politicians need votes, or when it is convenient, but also when it is inconvenient. And ultimately, how can they be a terrorist group, if all they are doing is protesting. If people are scared of a group protesting, without reason other than they are a nuisance, and holding signs, perhaps the people scared should take a good long look in the mirror, as they are not hearing the message.

Ask yourself this: Has the BLM protests, have they called for anyone to be killed? Or showed up armed with firearms? Have they threatened or even done any real damage to the areas that they appear in? If anything they show up, become a nuisance, and then leave. The only real shame of it all is that they do not want to have anyone else join them, seeking exclusion, and that I would think would be a bigger problem as now they are alienating those who could help them, who hear the message and want to try to change things for the better.

And if you want to look at a terrorist group, might I suggest one merely look at say Kevin Swanson and just listen to his message, and others like him. There are your real terrorist, as they are saying change, they often sit in the dark and are proclaiming mass murder on a group they find offensive. If you shut down BLM, a group that is crying out for social change, then are you willing to go after a religious group that calls for the outright murder of a group it finds offensive on the same grounds?

I agree with your statement completely. Nelson Mandela said this "Terrorism inevitably reflected poorly on those who used it, undermining any public support it might otherwise garner" Using the system to correct the problem is the only true way to get anything done. It will help future generations.