N.W.O God won't help you

On the subject of the New World Order i hear alot of religious people, mostly christians, saying God will come and "smite" down these Elitists and evil agenda pushing vermin and whilst (as a christian myself) I appreciate your faith I do not believe God will solve all your problems for you whilst you do nothing. I don't think that a God would work like this.

Having faith is a good thing, aslong as it does not push you towards hate of certain kinds such as Gay people. Gay people may be in contradiction with the bible but we would never see Jesus Gay bashing or any kind of lifestyle bashing because it was in opposition to his beliefs. The man who wandered with prostitutes and criminals would never ridicule, he would only pray for and forgive (I am Hetrosexual Btw), but that is another discussion.

I think those who rely on God as a solve all will just be dissapointed. I think any change will come from people not from the being who created them. Why give birth to indepedent beings with free thought and free will then do everything for them whilst they sit and do nothing. Sounds like wishfull thinking to me.

I see alot of these comments and beliefs on forums and youtube videos regarding these conspiracys but do you truely believe he will send down a lightning bolt and blow them up? That he will bring down plagues? I doubt it not when the people have the power to make the change they just choose not to, something we are all guilty of, or atleast most.

There are to many distractions in this world today and i would not be surprised if most of this was by design. Let us produce addictive, time consuming products at affordable prices to those with the ability to think and soon they will think no more.

When i watched freedom to fascism it had just over 200k views, maybe there are other videos out their with more views or that accumilativley make up a higher view total but that seems rather low for a video of this kind (or prehaps it keeps getting deleted and reposted). I suppose COD had a new game out around that time if not.

I say meetings in person are the way to begin a change. Forums are just words and discussion that will stay that way between strangers. Meetings in person will also start that way but with the right people, cooperation and presence of will and support will encourage debate into action. We all know we have more courage with friends around (even if it is just to ask a girl out you liked when you were younger) so same principal. People ask any single person what the answer is but that is wrong. The answer(s) will come from the combined thoughts and efforts of many, many people. But i dont think God will solve this for you just because you ask nicely.

I believe God will support, but not solve.

Just my opinion Ofc. VLR

a reply to: RevolutionAnon

There are to many distractions in this world today and i would not be surprised if most of this was by design. Let us produce addictive, time consuming products at affordable prices to those with the ability to think and soon they will think no more.

This was the only part of your thread that made sense...

Can you edit your OP so that it only shows that paragraph? It will be better for everyone...

a reply to: RevolutionAnon

Too much we have confidence in God to help us when it is difficult,and forgets it when we're doing good, we need to understand that everything that happens around us is the result of our own actions. Nobody is going to help us entirely in our hands whether we are going to change for the better or for the worse, obviously a lot of people who are in high positions changed for the worse that is why all this is happening. You and me may not have the power to change something about it but we have the power to change people from which it depends.

a reply to: BestinShow

That is your opinion.

I intended to comment on the people who are happy to sit idly by whilst the world is dominated by those with the money and power to do so because they believe God will show up at some point and fix everything.

And that is exactly what I did.

originally posted by: RevolutionAnon
a reply to: BestinShow

That is your opinion.

I intended to comment on the people who are happy to sit idly by whilst the world is dominated by those with the money and power to do so because they believe God will show up at some point and fix everything.

And that is exactly what I did.

So will you sit idly by and not comment on the non believers who sit idly by and do nothing as well?
Sit idly by and do nothing but complain about Christians who dont think this earth is as important as you do, who sit by and wait for redemption and the promise of a new earth and a loving King to rule over us in service, not greed.

Jesus never discouraged slavery because it would have lead to a rebellion and many deaths.

Go revolutionise, dont preach your faith in man to those whos faith is in God.

The world is dominated by evil people because evil people are ruthless.
And if Christians did something then we would be accused of being war mongers and crusaders and acting non Christian

not so....you are correct about our gay brothers and sisters, though....

the Scripture lines all this N W O detail out like a welcome mat.....

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Your completely right, most people sit by and do nothing. Many through ignorance, Some through laziness, Some through lack of belief change will come.

It is not the just the christians and I am not going to pick on them when I am one.

But there are alot of christians who believe God will change everything and solve every problem for them all they have to do is ignore it for the time being. Thats childish. You cannot ignore your problems and expect someone else (God) to deal with them.

Does God give courage or the oppurtunity to be courageous. Does he give you a job, or the opportunity to find work for yourself. Does he change your life, stop you being a criminal for example, or does he give you a way out that is within your ability all you have to do is reach for it yourself.

On the subject of revolutions who said it had to be violent. The power to change can come through words and actions. Of just standing up and saying no because it is wrong, as a mass, and taking a stand. I never said grab a gun ask your neighbour if he supports the Federal reserve and shoot him if he does.

Greetings-

Why pick on the Chris†ians™? Any SELF who look outside of their own Self is the One who is doomed, whether they be Chris†ian™, Jewish™, Muslim™, Hindu™, Taoist™, Atheist™, agnostic™, Give it a name ANY One..

You are the ONLY One that can save You and provide some sort of Salvation, no other Being, entity, or thing.

Shiva, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Lao Tzu, Yoda were doing their own thing they were NOT following any religion™ it wasn't until they were gone that money grubbing turds stepped in to make it a religion™

I didn't mention The Great Buddha because that is the main point of Buddhism™ to rid the Self of attachment and that includes grasping the idea that someone, some thing will provide Salvation at 'The End' (there is no end, that is the illusion..)

namaste

I agree to a certain extent to what you are saying and yet after contemplating the problems in the world and how to change them I have come to realize that the physical and tangible problems in the world can be changed relatively easily.... in my opinion.

But it is the problems that exist within the hearts and minds of people that we cannot change ...at least at this point I don't see how we could in any kind of a timely manner.

Only until the divine law that says " love your neighbor as yourself " and " Do unto others as you would have them do unto you " exists within the heart of every person. I do not foresee us cooperating on the level necessary in order to bring about the changes that we need.

I have seen that even groups of people of the same belief systems can not get along well for very long....I have seen that even groups of Christians that profess to adhere to these laws are not able to implement them on a level sufficient enough to bring about harmonious cooperation over an extended period of time.

I do think the Lord's prayer is appropriate here and it does state that we should pray for God's kingdom to come.

You do what you can within the constraints presented to you. One of those constraints is the inevitability of an evil NWO that will persecute us wherever it finds us.

You are in a sense as bad the people who accuse Christians of being uncharitable because they think God will take care of it all, so they don't work to make the world better.

That's flawed logic at its finest.

Just because we've read the book and know how it all ends and know God will indeed set all to right doesn't mean all we do is sit idly by and take it. We have survival instinct for a reason. While I am here, I will fight for my family and loved ones to the best of my ability, just like I do what I can to make the world around me a better place. If I didn't, I wouldn't be walking the walk.

God might not help you, but ya know who will ? "Ozy, he'll save you"

You know I just had an idea, maybe the reason there is a lack evidence for God in present times is because God realizes we have the power to redeem ourselves and he's just sitting back watching.

If you read the bible anytime he's intervened he's always made a situation worse and his followers never learn to take responsibility for the change that needs to occur to make it better, they're always calling on God to enact that change for them.

Not a new idea, I know.

Isn't this Iron and clay? I would say the Brits have had the kick of the cat for a good stretch of time. The Queen just looks eviller the older she gets, I don't think the Lord ever envisioned his children to not be able to hunt deer in their own forests. And now the King of the N looks ready to announce the final act, me, I just worry about the denouement. But who really actually knows, maybe some bit players or grips are more important to production than we account for? Time will tell, this half time stretch for me though has gotten entirely too burdensome.

a reply to: ketsuko

Nobodies perfect.....if you don't believe me....ask Lucifer. Having said that...I will continue working toward what I personally believe is the best approach to saving the Earth and it's inhabitants.

a reply to: RevolutionAnon

Why assume christians would want to do anything about it??? It is their own prophesy which tells them to wait until the world goes belly up and rejoice in it's destruction to usher in their savior.

They would be the last ones to help fight any of it. They will either sit by and watch it or actively help to bring their own destruction because that is what they believe.

a reply to: RevolutionAnon

On the subject of the New World Order i hear alot of religious people, mostly christians, saying God will come and "smite" down these Elitists and evil agenda pushing vermin and whilst (as a christian myself) I appreciate your faith I do not believe God will solve all your problems for you whilst you do nothing. I don't think that a God would work like this.

Well then go right ahead and abide by what you think God
should be like Einstien. Just make sure you remember
this. It' isn't up to God to conform to your own
specs and thoughts on what his character should be.
It's up to you to find out how he is and why he's that
way. If you don't understand that I have serious doubts
about you.

Forgot to proof read

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: RevolutionAnon

Why assume christians would want to do anything about it??? It is their own prophesy which tells them to wait until the world goes belly up and rejoice in it's destruction to usher in their savior.

They would be the last ones to help fight any of it. They will either sit by and watch it or actively help to bring their own destruction because that is what they believe.

It doesn't have to happen on your watch, a Christian should speak the truth all the time and not be cowed by the world. Such things are going to allow the N.W.O. to prosper and succeed, it is happening now already, for example, the amount of bull# people here spew about God and the Bible is enough to fertilize the whole midwest.

a reply to: Cinrad

I'm pretty sure everyone should be telling the truth at all times yet I can think of nobody who ever has or ever will live up to that.

As for all the BS being said about God and the Bible. Maybe if God would show up and set the record straight that would stop. But I don't see that happening either.

Seems to me we're on our own folks. You're either part of the problem or you're not it's up to you.

a reply to: [post=20080095]HarryJoy....yep, that was an awesome bit there, man.

crux of the bisquit in a nutshell.