Obama will be impeached . . . over CLIMATE CHANGE.

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover

I rather doubt this prediction made by heavily right-wing websites will be borne out.

I also rather doubt your impeachment prediction based on your past misrepresentations and exaggerations in other threads.

a reply to: Grimpachi

I was on this site years ago, but when I came back after so long I forgot my old username/email/password/etc, so I just decided to create a new one. I tried finding my old avatar but couldn't.

But I'm sure you probably laughed at my old threads too.

a reply to: Greven

Give it some time. When millions are freezing to death maybe you'll think I'm a prophet.

a reply to: buster2010

Pentagon report? The Pentagon would say, your socks smell, if they thought it would add to thier funding. I love that word "multiplier". You have force "multiplier" and threat "multiplier". Comming from an organization that once was called "The Department of War". Now called "The Department of Defense " or DOD for short. Because the word "war" didn't sound "fund worthy"... Without a war. Fancy words should prick your ears to listen. Not make you use them. If DOD considered this a "threat". I be worried how/what they consider you.

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover
When millions are affected by the warming of our climate, will you think science is prophetic?

Because that's already happening - here's an example in the U.S.

Washington Tribe Confronts Climate Change, Sea Level Rise

In the Northwest, sea-level rise is forcing a Native American tribe to consider abandoning lands it has inhabited for thousands of years.

The Quinault Indian Nation, whose small village lies at the mouth of the Quinault River on the outer coast of Washington’s Olympic Peninsula, now relies on a 2,000-foot-long sea wall to protect it from the encroaching Pacific Ocean.
...
“The ocean breached into his back yard and took out his smokehouse,” Sharp said. “Shortly after I talked to him, we lost power. So in the midst of trying to draft an emergency declaration the power went out.”

Not only do they have to deal with sea level rise, but other impacts as well:

About five years ago the Anderson Glacier, which contributed cool water to the Quinault River at critical times of year, disappeared for good. It had been receding since locals began photographing it, but Fawn Sharp still remembers the day when she saw that it was completely gone.
...
But without the glacier, the Quinault River was lower than ever before recorded, so low that while walking through a newly exposed stretch of river bed, one tribal member accidentally stubbed his toe on what turned out to be a mastodon jaw that may have been submerged since the last ice age.

This lost glacier has far-reaching consequences:

Of the 700 people that live in the Quinault village of Taholah, almost half are directly dependent on salmon fishing.
...
The warm ocean waters and dry summer made for a confusing and hostile environment for salmon, which rely on cool river flows to find their way home to spawning grounds above Lake Quinault. Normally at this time of year with the chinook and coho running, the Quinault seafood plant processes 70,000 pounds of salmon per day. But Underwood said tribal fishers were catching half of that this season. The tribe decided to stop fishing to help more salmon live long enough to spawn.

What would it take to convince someone like you?

I don't know much about a whole lot of things, but I do know this. If, and I stress 'if' there is a reality to be divorced from,, this thread is.

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover

So global warming is not real . Keep telling yourself that .

a reply to: Greven

WOW! I'll completely disregard the growing ice & cooling of the Arctic & Antarctic, the rapid cooling of the Great Lakes, the record cold & snow of the non-tropics, growing glaciers of Asia and South America, the "pause" in sea-level rise world-wide and "pause" of warming, all because of your one example of a small glacier.

This is all from November, so far:

www.chinadaily.com.cn...
www.usatoday.com...
www.kpho.com...
www.stuff.co.nz...
elkodaily.com...
kathmandupost.ekantipur.com...
snowbrains.com...
www.express.co.uk...
english.sina.com...
www.dailydetroit.com...
tucson.com... =201408
www.chicagotribune.com...
www.weather.com...
www.argusleader.com...
icelandmonitor.mbl.is...
www.accuweather.com...
www.latimes.com...
www.rgj.com...

Yup, all JUST this month, so far.

a reply to: Greven

Give it a couple thousand years before you panic. I'd bet them "natives" couldn't prove the "sea" wasn't that high before. If thier great, great, great,...great, great, great, great, great grand parents were alive. They'd smack them every which way, but side ways, for being a bunch of cowards. Heck! You can find clamshells and sea dollars at the base of the Superstition Mountains in Arizona. You can find sea shells in Colorado. It has happened before. It'll happen again, even after you globalist panic. Just because your "educated". Don't let your lack of k.knowledge frighten you. Buy a boat, or make one. You'll live.

I think it's quite funny that most people on this site are convinced 9-11 was an inside job, yet they believe the Main-Stream-Media about global warming religiously without doing their own research.

But. . . . . . . . .
"97% of scientists"
! ! ! ! ! ! !

Go research how they got that percentage.

No real scientist believes that man-made climate-change is a threat.

It's all about money and power.

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover
I fail to see the relevance of cold weather in November. Especially these 'records' that say 'since YYYY' - not particularly impressive.

Please provide a reference for 'cooling' Arctic and Antarctic, because you are conflating things so far as I can discern.

The Antarctic study on increased snowfall is contentious, but it is a study to be considered for now.

There is no pause in sea level rise, and there is no pause in warming.

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover

Don't go throwing facts, reason or commonsense around on ATS. The whole point of this site is to be "intellectual", "educated", "progressive" and "denying ignorance ".

originally posted by: Robotswilltakeover
I think it's quite funny that most people on this site are convinced 9-11 was an inside job, yet they believe the Main-Stream-Media about global warming religiously without doing their own research.

But. . . . . . . . .
"97% of scientists"
! ! ! ! ! ! !

Go research how they got that percentage.

No real scientist believes that man-made climate-change is a threat.

It's all about money and power.

I think it's funny when you, personally, exaggerate something to the point of lying:

originally posted by: Robotswilltakeover
NASA is finally admitting that the Antarctic is overall gaining ice. Greenland is also gaining ice. Most of the world's glaciers are growing, and for anyone who likes to ski the season is beginning early this year. Everywhere that was once covered in glaciers is beginning to become colder. Expect this to be the most brutal winter the world has ever seen, but of course the "man-made climate-change" believers will say things like, "Oh, but some places get colder." Is it just a coincidence that the "places getting colder" are the exact same places that were covered in glaciers thousands of years ago?

www.nasa.gov...

The theory of AGW is officially dead. Dress warm.

This thread of yours, for example - if you read that link, you see that Greenland isn't mentioned at all. Yet you claim NASA says it's gaining ice. Never mind the other claims that are nonsense.

The sole claim there that is discussed in the link is that of Antarctica gaining ice. Well, snow that turns into ice. Based on a single study in a sea of studies on Antarctica, on old data. At least, that claim can be considered more valid than the rest.

a reply to: Greven

What you wrote is in quotations; I simply changed 5 words to make it true.


"I fail to see the relevance of" ONE GLACIER. "Especially these 'records' that say 'since YYYY' - not particularly impressive."

"Please provide a reference for" WARMING "Arctic and Antarctic, because you are conflating things so far as I can discern."

"The Antarctic study on increased snowfall is" FACT, "but it is a study to be considered for now."

"There is no" REALITY "in sea level rise, and there is no" REALITY "in warming."


I suppose we can agree to disagree.

originally posted by: murphy22
Give it a couple thousand years before you panic. I'd bet them "natives" couldn't prove the "sea" wasn't that high before. If thier great, great, great,...great, great, great, great, great grand parents were alive. They'd smack them every which way, but side ways, for being a bunch of cowards. Heck! You can find clamshells and sea dollars at the base of the Superstition Mountains in Arizona. You can find sea shells in Colorado. It has happened before. It'll happen again, even after you globalist panic. Just because your "educated". Don't let your lack of k.knowledge frighten you. Buy a boat, or make one. You'll live.

Things are getting worse a lot faster than that.
This year has been greater than +0.8°C compared to the 20th century average temperature. October is the most anomalous month yet:

October 2015 +0.98°C / +1.76°F

Halfway to the 2°C target already...

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover

Where did you get 97 percent from .

Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources.

climate.nasa.gov...

Or was that what you were saying and i read it wrong .

a reply to: Robotswilltakeover

It's a settled science.

Like higher taxes and bigger government means more freedom.

a reply to: Greven

2° Centigrade? Oh no! Say it ain't so!!?!?? Get back with me, in a hundred years...I'll buy you a beer or give you my guns. Whichever causes you less panic, then. Got a date? I'll write it on my s schedule.

a reply to: hutch622

IPCC, AMA, etc. . . . . . . BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
These are their eyes on global warming: ($) ($)

Can you please name a real objective scientist, and not an organization.

Here's a list of over 31,000 scientists / over 9000 PHDs:

www.petitionproject.org...

If all those scientists are part of the "3%" that would mean that:

You should EASILY be able to name ONE MILLION SCIENTISTS.

good luck

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: Robotswilltakeover

I rather doubt this prediction made by heavily right-wing websites will be borne out.

I also rather doubt your impeachment prediction based on your past misrepresentations and exaggerations in other threads.

Wow , personal attack....I expected that of course. Most people that still defend Obama are too far gone to assist , or live in another country. (except France or Russia)