Sheriff Puts Up Official Sign “WARNING” People Who Disagree with Him to LEAVE!

a reply to: NowWhat

Hateful and racist? How so? Is it bigoted, phobic and intolerant also? The sign merely says, we have standards. Where's the hate and racism in that? I can see people without standards being upset by this and throwing out PC attack words. But really, answer the question.

a reply to: LSU0408

A two term "president" that doesn't speak for all Americans religiously or politically. Where's the separation of church, state and idiots... "Law"?

originally posted by: RoScoLaz4
i get a 'sheriff out of rambo' feeling about the man behind the sign. very welcoming.

Bully for you.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie
First of all, I'm not from the U.S.
Is the sheriff on government pay or private?
What exactly don't you understand in what I tried to explain in this?

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: deadeyedick
I like it but what will they say to a person that does not have the choice to leave?

Tell them to deal with it. That's what the PC crowd tells anyone that disagrees with them.

Separation from church and state is what so many say on ATS is one of the foundations the American constitution is based upon so he's effectively defacating on it. Deal with it, being sheriff doesn't allow you to try and impose your opinions on anyone else unless they are breaking a law.

Ah well, backward county I guess, surprised it isn't a reality show so those that enjoy such things can have a good laugh.

Could be worse... He could have his guys killing blacks like the non "backward" counties up north, right?

I guess being told to deal with it is only good enough if it refers to a progressive ideology. Anyways, I'm just telling them to do what everyone does when they don't like something.

I think you are missing the point. If this is seen as an 'official' sign (don't shoot me, no, literally don't shoot me, I'm only going by the OP subject line) then it's wrong, plain wrong. He should respect other peoples opinions in his official role, what he thinks in his personal life is his business, close minded or not as long as he doesn't try and force his opinion on others.

I haven't missed any points. He's not telling people they can't have their own opinion. He's telling people that if that sign offends them to the point where they want him to remove it, then they can leave. The other option is to deal with it.

Anyways, I'm very certain that a group of people will be along soon to deface it while they cry about his intolerance.

He is saying if you don't agree with what he agrees with, then leave - fine if you are a fat retarded idiot, no one would pay any attention, but when you are also a sheriff, then it implies it's an official message from a retarded idiot, different thing entirely.

No, lol, he's not. He's saying that if it offends you and you can't handle it, leave. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I'm also a fan of political incorrectness. I loathe PC.

And so if someone put up a banner saying I hate Christmas, I don't support your religion - hmmm, what gives an elected official the right to say leave? Let me give you a clue - none. Do you actually understand that? He can do what he wants when no longer in his post, but not when he is representing the state, sorry if you find that hard to comprehend but it's just plain facts. I know the good old boys may think they own their little piece of land, but really........

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
If we follow the story, he may be hearing from the actual silent minority in his town who think this sign is going too far. I say watch this space.

Aaaand, here we have it... That was fast! The American Humanist Association has sent a letter to the sheriff, the Harris County Board of Commissioners, the County Manager and the Harris County District Attorney...

The purpose of this letter is to inform you that the sign violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and must be removed immediately.
...
While some residents of your community may support a sign with such a message, there can be no question that it conveys a religiously biased message that is invidious toward those who do not hold theistic, and particularly Christian, views.
...
Not only is this virtually an admission of unconstitutional activity, but the fact that he has paid for the sign himself – apparently thinking he is cleverly avoiding constitutional exposure by doing so – also acts as an admission that he realizes the sign is unlawful.

Letter

The American Humanist Association

Location: Washington D.C.

Purpose: Advocate for progressive values

Further proving my point about the people that mind everyone elses business while putting themselves first. If the citizens of Harris County don't like it, let them take care and stay the flurk out of it. Those morons at the AHA are over 700 miles away for fart's sake. Good God people.

As fast as that letter was written 731 miles north in D.C., I would assume that the approving citizens of Harris County have already bought another sign and are ready to put it up at their own expense as soon as the other is forced down.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: deadeyedick
I like it but what will they say to a person that does not have the choice to leave?

Tell them to deal with it. That's what the PC crowd tells anyone that disagrees with them.

Separation from church and state is what so many say on ATS is one of the foundations the American constitution is based upon so he's effectively defacating on it. Deal with it, being sheriff doesn't allow you to try and impose your opinions on anyone else unless they are breaking a law.

Ah well, backward county I guess, surprised it isn't a reality show so those that enjoy such things can have a good laugh.

More people who dont understand that part of "Separation of Church and state"

That designates that the Gov cannot establish or mandate a religion

Not that you are free from seeing people practice it

(hands klenex)

It has been overly distorted throughout the years, and has now gotten to the point where God on the back of a vehicle actually offends some people to the point that they go into a fit of rage over it. I can remember when people used to mind their own business. Now they mind everyone elses, and there's nothing worse than a selfish "me first" person that minds everyone elses business in the process.

Read your last sentence again, isn't that exactly what the sign is saying? If you really don't think so then I guess you've already decided that anyone with a different opinion to yours isn't welcome......... your world I guess.

Wait, are you telling me that he's minding everyone elses business and only thinking of himself? I can see where anyone opposing his action would think he's thinking only of himself, but how is he minding someone elses business?

errrr, ok, by telling them what opinions are acceptable to be voiced? Are you really missing that? When did an elected official get the right to do that?

A twice elected president currently serving the last year of his second term has done that for 7 solid years. I don't agree with him or his opinions. Would you believe that I haven't gone to DC and driven past 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW?

Surely the Sheriff of 1 out of 3,143 counties in this country isn't more important to you than the president of the US, right? Without looking at the OP or link, can you even remember this guy's name? You're picking and choosing right vs wrong according to how beneficial it is to your argument.

97% of Harris County, GA's population of 32,000 is rural. Almost 80% of Harris County is Conservative.

I doubt you'll get much negative feedback out of county residents.

No, I guess not, hey, in the recent past your ancestors would have just strung up whoever disagreed so in some kind of way I guess it's progress of sorts.

a reply to: Tyrion79

most sheriff's office are a county level political and law enforcement job. they are elected by citizens that like what he says and does. he is paid by the county.

in many counties, people see the sheriff office as the first line of defense from state and federal govement encroachment in some areas of law. like enforcing gun laws immigration and others. they are entitled to their opinions so long as they don't violate laws, which so far no one has provided any info on a law he has broken in ga. or federal law.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
If we follow the story, he may be hearing from the actual silent minority in his town who think this sign is going too far. I say watch this space.

Aaaand, here we have it... That was fast! The American Humanist Association has sent a letter to the sheriff, the Harris County Board of Commissioners, the County Manager and the Harris County District Attorney...

The purpose of this letter is to inform you that the sign violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, as well as the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, and must be removed immediately.
...
While some residents of your community may support a sign with such a message, there can be no question that it conveys a religiously biased message that is invidious toward those who do not hold theistic, and particularly Christian, views.
...
Not only is this virtually an admission of unconstitutional activity, but the fact that he has paid for the sign himself – apparently thinking he is cleverly avoiding constitutional exposure by doing so – also acts as an admission that he realizes the sign is unlawful.

Letter

And what part of that letter do you disagree with? What, as an elected uniformed official would give him the right to do it?

In case anyone thinks myself are others are getting a little tied up over this, it's just this site has a little motto called deny ignorance. When that changes to celebrate ignorance then I wouldn't bother indulging in this kind of debate because it would indeed be keeping in step with celebrating ignorance.

originally posted by: NowWhat
a reply to: alienjuggalo

Alright, this actually is a pretty simple open and shut case.
The sign was made using private money.
Freedom of Speech would call this "art".

It's hateful and racist but perfectly legal.

What if I had a bunch of money and put up billboards of a close up of my ass? Perfectly legal, art.
Or a giant billboard that said "please jump from this spot", perfectly legal, art.
Or another giant ass billboard that said "Deez Nutz 2016", perfectly legal, art.

It just sucks that this guy went through the effort to be hateful.
Reminds me of the signs I see around here, "Prepare to Meet Your Maker" and "If you died right now, where would you go?"

No different than the giant crosses on the edges of freeways, or the giant yellow "M" that you see everywhere, selling you poison and feces wrapped up in recycled waste.

To make the statement that the sign was "hateful and racist" just goes to show how far down this country has fallen in the past 9 years and how if something is inaccurately repeated and/or abused often enough, it becomes a habit to blurt it out for anything one may disagree with. Unreal.

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: NowWhat

Hateful and racist? How so? Is it bigoted, phobic and intolerant also? The sign merely says, we have standards. Where's the hate and racism in that? I can see people without standards being upset by this and throwing out PC attack words. But really, answer the question.

It would be deeply improved with those duelling banjos playing automatically when you approach just so you know that it's time to get the car moving, because round those parts you agree with the sheriff in what you do and say or you are out - laws broken or not.

originally posted by: Tyrion79
a reply to: murphy22
No, I'm separating political or religious views from the state here, as it should be.
If anyone doesn't see the thin line in this, then there are examples in history, that I could refer to.
The sign as shown now is harmless as it is, however I think this could eventually lead to more segregating views in the future, seeing how the nature of humanity can quickly devolve to this, especially in terms of current world events.

Segregation seems to be what people like BLM and all who support them are currently going for.

a reply to: uncommitted

There is no where in the constitution that says ANYTHING about separation of church and state. The constitution is about all people being able to freely practice their religion which includes being able to say merry christmas.

Jaden

a reply to: odzeandennz

It doesn't say agree with us or leave, it says let us express our rights or leave.

Jaden

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: LSU0408

A two term "president" that doesn't speak for all Americans religiously or politically. Where's the separation of church, state and idiots... "Law"?

Oh but you can bet your paycheck that when that windbag mentions anything about his Christianity, it's heralded by the same people that find this sign intimidating, uncomfortable, frightening, and best of all, "hateful and racist."

I buckled over in laughter when I read that. Pathetic.

a reply to: NowWhat

It's hateful and racist but perfectly legal. 

And the award for most ignorant and hyperbolic statement on ATS is awarded...congratulations!

I actually laughed when I read that and then I realized you probably actually believe what you posted.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie
Yes, being that as it is, I think that anyone in employment of the government in a public function should refrain from any personal expression of views as it could be seen as biased towards others and therefore not in line with the neutrality of the law.
Of course the sheriff or others are allowed to have a personal opinion in matters, however they should not let that be of any consequence in regards to the upholding the law or in this case, to express it on public signs.
Again, I have no problem with this sign, however I'm merely pointing out the danger if we're accepting these kind of statements and where it might end.

a reply to: uncommitted

Kinda like any politicians running for an office? They always seem to have "uniforms" standing behind them for some "law" they want passed. Is that "uniform" representing the state? The people? Conservatives? Liberals/progressives? You people, with this absolutely, false idea that religion and state are separated. There is no such "law". Never has been. This Sheriff was elected by the people of his county. You don't think this sign reflects his constituents? You libs want "democracy" only when it suites you. This is why we can't have nice things. Like, freedom.

a reply to: uncommitted

What do you think that sign says? If this post is any indication, you have absolutely NO idea what it says. It says absolutely nothing about what people should or should not think, it says if you don't like us exercising our rights, then leave.

Jaden

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: deadeyedick
I like it but what will they say to a person that does not have the choice to leave?

Tell them to deal with it. That's what the PC crowd tells anyone that disagrees with them.

Separation from church and state is what so many say on ATS is one of the foundations the American constitution is based upon so he's effectively defacating on it. Deal with it, being sheriff doesn't allow you to try and impose your opinions on anyone else unless they are breaking a law.

Ah well, backward county I guess, surprised it isn't a reality show so those that enjoy such things can have a good laugh.

Could be worse... He could have his guys killing blacks like the non "backward" counties up north, right?

I guess being told to deal with it is only good enough if it refers to a progressive ideology. Anyways, I'm just telling them to do what everyone does when they don't like something.

I think you are missing the point. If this is seen as an 'official' sign (don't shoot me, no, literally don't shoot me, I'm only going by the OP subject line) then it's wrong, plain wrong. He should respect other peoples opinions in his official role, what he thinks in his personal life is his business, close minded or not as long as he doesn't try and force his opinion on others.

I haven't missed any points. He's not telling people they can't have their own opinion. He's telling people that if that sign offends them to the point where they want him to remove it, then they can leave. The other option is to deal with it.

Anyways, I'm very certain that a group of people will be along soon to deface it while they cry about his intolerance.

He is saying if you don't agree with what he agrees with, then leave - fine if you are a fat retarded idiot, no one would pay any attention, but when you are also a sheriff, then it implies it's an official message from a retarded idiot, different thing entirely.

No, lol, he's not. He's saying that if it offends you and you can't handle it, leave. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I'm also a fan of political incorrectness. I loathe PC.

And so if someone put up a banner saying I hate Christmas, I don't support your religion - hmmm, what gives an elected official the right to say leave? Let me give you a clue - none. Do you actually understand that? He can do what he wants when no longer in his post, but not when he is representing the state, sorry if you find that hard to comprehend but it's just plain facts. I know the good old boys may think they own their little piece of land, but really........

Yo, I'm not a squeaky wheel whining pity seeking attention craving selfish butt my head in everybody elses business type of guy. If someone put up a banner saying what you said, I'd thumb my nose at it and never look back. I wouldn't dwell on it and write a letter to some ignorant business over 700 miles away that thrives on the business of anybody that they feel may be offending someone that shares their views.

You guys are so unbelievably hypersensitive and melodramatic when it comes to someone holding a different view or saying no.