Canada: We'll resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees

a reply to: Cynic

I am sure the purchase of a iron dome or F35's made much more sense eh ? ...Harper is gone and that is good . Let JT have a crack at it before you throw him under the bus eh .

a reply to: BuzzyWigs


Wanting to is one thing, being allowed to flee anywhere instead of aiding them close to home should be restricted. Countries don't just have wide open borders, for a reason. To protect their own nations and culture and they tend to have rules against High Risk groups, those who create higher crimes, higher costs to medical and prisons for example, and are opposite of your constitution and freedoms.

Not to mention the cost of catering to this to the host countries. Well the European Union has just estimated this at over 1 trillion dollars.

My suggestion to them is to: close the borders. Require passports. Sure nice to travel in your area from a like minded culture, but you don't have wide open borders. Deport! And remove all governments that went along with the West elites plans for doing such as Soros, UN, Saudi, Obama, all behind it. Sue them for everything they have to recover costs, and then throw in jail for endangering citizens and aided and abetting terrorists.

This is about destroying democracies and freedoms.

So taking a few people that are being persecuted by Isil is one thing. However this is something else going on globally. Something insane, and its got to stop.

Also , the Mexican visa thing actually could put a kink the rules and points systems Canada uses for immigrants and refugees. Because Mexico has agreed to take alot of them, and don't know what kind of points system they use.
I think background checks on those entering your country is a sane thing.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Just to clarify, you can only afford a $15,000 house, are waiting for your husband to die so you can move, and support bernie sanders and his handouts....

....and you believe you are such a good decision maker that you are right and we are wrong?

lol liberals

originally posted by: Unity_99
We will see. Alot depends on what is actually planned, as opposed to helping out in small numbers.

This exodus of people is a very bad plan, foisted on the West to destabalize, by a very dark group of wanna be elite factions.

No one did this after the last world war. Its far too costly amongst other things. And dangerous for both the refugee and country.

Normally you send aid, and Syria for example, has some parts hijacked, with much of it not. They should have created safe passage to areas near the government and sent aid. Far cheaper.

However so far, this approach is better than other countries way of taking in various political refugees from many other places, not just Syria and Iraq, or those affected by Isil.

Turkey took in 2 million Syrian refugees. There isn't really anyone to send aid to left and it would never make it. Huge amounts of humanitarian aid to Africa, food, is hijacked even to peaceful areas and we should attempt to send to Syria?

Dave and Cynic -
I take it you didn't vote for him.

Well, you're welcome to come here instead - I'd gladly trade places with any Canadian who cares to.

One of the things that may come out of this however, is a boom in construction. And not sure what the displaced military will be doing, but its cold in the winter, and our PM is not going to use tents. Weatherizing existing buildings is possible and can even be lower cost, for example if they use alternative methods such as commercial hemp insulation.

I just hope they see this as a boom, in a way to recover costs, really amp up the construction, create jobs. Every person including the refugees, who gains employment, creates 5 or more service jobs as well.

So we'll see, hope this decision is going to be handled really well.

a reply to: jmilo2

when did I say a $15k house? your opinion is noted. Just to clarify: I'm going to ignore it.

Your first post was not worth reading and obviously trollish. This one, addressed to me, is only worth my pointing out that you didn't comprehend what I wrote.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: jmilo2

when did I say a $15k house? your opinion is noted. Just to clarify: I'm going to ignore it.

Your first post was not worth reading and obviously trollish. This one, addressed to me, is only worth my pointing out that you didn't comprehend what I wrote.

just to clarify, you want me to subsidize your healthcare but dont want to talk?

a reply to: jmilo2

You're not "talking" - and you're not reading either.
I don't care to indulge your rudeness and negativity. And based on the few posts you have made here on ATS (yeah, I looked them up), I don't care to converse with you at all.

The TOPIC, scooter, is Canada taking in refugees. You've made it clear that you don't care about canada, or the refugees, and you don't want anything to do with liberals, and you think I want you to subsidize me somehow. Got it.

buh bye.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Yep - my ideal spot would be Banff.

So - what is the best, most non-biased news source for Canada - anyone??

Banff isn't in British Columbia, but it's still beautiful. Average cost of living in Banff is high because A) It's a resort town; and B) Albertans have higher wages on average than the rest of Canadians.

Go for a coastal town in BC, buy a tiny cabin.

a reply to: Atsbhct

thanks!! I'd dig a tiny cabin on the coast. I guess because the mountains and my early research I thought Banff was in BC. Yeah, I figured it was the equivalent of say, Aspen or Vail here.

We accepted 37,000 Hungarians in 1957...and survived.

We accepted approx 50,000 S.E Asians (multiple countries) in 1980...and survived.

In my honest opinion, it is kind of embarrassing that we are only accepting 25,000 Syrians in 2015, and whispering about how 'tough it is going to be'.

Get the women and children out. Take our time and sort the combat aged men, after that is complete.

a reply to: peck420

Makes good sense to me.

a reply to: peck420

Yes, close but to home.

And we have a right to our own culture as well. And to not absorb the costs of Soros and Rothschild/Saudi plans and wars. Nor do we intend to allow race replacements to take place, just pointing out something that is sane to bring up, since I don't care about political correctness. We all have our own nations and cultures. Bringing the middle east into the west is not something any sane nation would ever do.

Isil has a small portion of Syria and that is shrinking because real hero's stepped up to the plate and took some cities that were hijacked back. Isil is going to be smeared and removed, but I do agree with Putin when he said (paraphrased) if a rapid dog attacks, you're more interested in finding out who owns the dog and dealing with them. So, the faction that is behind all of this, including but not limited to UK, Saudi, Israel, needs to be neutred and detoothed, put out to pasture as powers in our world.

a reply to: Unity_99

I do agree with you about the culture clash, for sure.

Now, since some things at this point can't be avoided, and they're bringing in some carefully vetted refugees, in the dead of Canadian winter, into army barracks and abandoned hospitals. I could point out the government should over ride some of the land designations in all provinces, not just for the refugees mind you, this should be a win/win and benefit more poor Canadians as well.

And I'd be putting alot of low cost second hand mobile homes, on them, and do a rent to own. I believe that everyone, including the elderly, the disabled, mothers with babies on assistance, EVERYONE, has the right to own their own home, not be evicted, have a pet, so their kids can enjoy taking the dog for a walk.

There is alot of space in Canada and its time to actually get some homes going for low income people AND refugees. Trailer parks have tiny lots. Why not have eco farm type parks, where mobile homes, with lovely additions, get 1/4 acre each, and greenhouses? Why not do the same low cost maintenance, say 150 a month so landscapers can be hired and the greenhouses run, with some volunteers from the park, residents and a big playground and pool that townhouses do, instead of the typical 400-800 a month pad rent fees for even poorer folk in mobile homes, which is outrageous usary of the poor? The way it currently is, is obscene, with the poor being forced to pay even higher costs, for tiny postage stamp lots and they have rules where you have to have brand new manufactured homes, and can't place a second hand one on the lot.

Whereas second hand ones can have additions on a bigger lot and be made beautiful with commercial hemp siding and insulation. And everyone has the right to privacy and low cost homes and utilities.

Why not ensure true integration by providing homes, with rent and utilities on a sliding scale to all people and calling all incomes, "income"?

Think out of the box and make this benefit Canadians as well. There should no homeless or poor forced to do extremely high cost rentals in our land.

a reply to: real_one

Dude, you live in Ohio.

I agree that Ohio is a cesspool, but Cincinnati is nice. If I didn't have familial obligations I would want to live in Alaska or maybe Michigan.

a reply to: Unity_99
Even if Canada tripled the number of refugees, to 75,000, it wouldn't constitute enough of a cultural intake to cause any major affect on 'Canadian Culture'...which is, ironically?, nothing more than a mosaic of global culture any ways (which I love, btw). The government was wise (shock value = astronomical) in doing their best to relocate refugees across the country.

As for going after the causes of the issue...I agree. Not that I can do anything about it, but I do agree. Unfortunately, that would be too little, too late, for those that are in distress now.

So, we can stand aside and wax poetic about what should be done, to those that caused it. Or, we can do something for those that are affected by it.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: pavil

Hard to imagine widows and children and the vulnerable being dangerous.
The article says they get the priority.

You tell me how they are going to be able to properly vett 25,000 in 3 months per the article?. At least they are taking the women, children and most at risk first. I just doubt they can do a good enough job of checking out in such a short time span. You have to do a through job of checking out who you invite yo your own land IMO.