Gang Rape In The Calais Migrants Camp

originally posted by: Tyrion79
a reply to: grainofsand
Ok, just wanted that to be clear.
Also take in the vulnerability of people who fled their country because of violence and currently have nothing to get back to.
It's not that they have alot of choices at the moment.
That's what I wanted to highlight.

They have two choices, register and claim asylum in France and receive UN standard care for refugees from French authorities, or refuse and receive no help from French authorities.

As Kester said, there could be those held against their will there, so it is of course the responsibility of the French authorities to ensure that is not the case. It remains a French problem though.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: Urantia1111

Someone has to offer sanctuary to the women and children. The reports of harassment are consistent. It has to be dealt with.

Someone is offering sanctuary to the women and children! The French Government!
Come on Kester, stop muddying the waters here, all the women & children will receive UN standard refugee care if they register and claim asylum in France, that's all they have to do, just shout it to a passing cop, whisper to an aid worker, however they start the process, that is all they have to do to get help. They don't.

a reply to: grainofsand
If I was put in a similar situation, which fortunately I'm not, then I wouldn't put up with any violence as portrayed in those camps as they are.
I would gladly take my chances elsewhere, but I'm in no position to judge, because I haven't seen any violence as described, nor am I put in such position.
If violence in any way exists in any refugee camp, I would want to know why authorities are not responding to it accordingly.

a reply to: Belgianbloke

"Now before any one thinks i'm a racist, I don't think all muslims are rapist. But there a lot of bad apples within those refugee swarms."

I am sure you know muslim is not a race, so you can not be a racist for saying anything about them. it is just another jacked religion. Even though we know this, we fall for the brainwashing. I caught myself the other day saying the same thing.
Never again.

originally posted by: Tyrion79
If violence in any way exists in any refugee camp, I would want to know why authorities are not responding to it accordingly.

It is not a refugee camp, its an illegal camp of unregistered migrants.
To become a refugee one needs to claim asylum at a safe country first. These people are choosing not to claim asylum in France and have set up a shanty camp at the Channel tunnel in hope of getting into the UK illegally.

I agree that violence should not be tolerated anywhere, even in illegal unregistered migrant camps, you would have to speak to the French authorities about that, but I can tell you this, the UK would have broken that camp up months ago if similar had been on our side of the border, say Dover. I guarantee that.

a reply to: grainofsand
Most places are placing the spotlight on Human Trafficking.

Human Trafficking Forced labor may result when unscrupulous employers exploit workers who are vulnerable due to high rates of unemployment, poverty, crime, discrimination, corruption, political conflict, citizenship status or cultural acceptance of the practice. Victims of domestic servitude generally have an informal workplace such a home, which often socially isolates domestic workers from the community. That type of informal workplace is conducive to exploitation since authorities cannot inspect private property as easily as they can inspect formal workplaces. Sex trafficking of an adult usually involves being coerced, forced, or deceived into a commercial sex act. Commercial sex acts include, but are not limited to prostitution and/or pornography as a means for the perpetrator to make money.

In most places if the victim is a child than force, fraud or coercion, does not need to be proven. The mere fact the victim is a child and the act meets the definition of a commercial sex act, makes the child a victim.

Of course this is no benefit to the people being trafficked and exploited if they don't know there is help available, and no way to ask for help.

a reply to: grainofsand

that camp has been there for years and is disgusting it is a case of hollande trying to pass his problem to the uk.
and as hollande allows it to go unpoliced he is just as guilty for any crime comited there.

here is a article about the camp in 2012 migrant camp in 2012

hollande is unfair really france has far more room

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

There are 3500 people in that camp, Medecins sans Frontier (Doctors without Borders) are there, charitable aid workers are there, it will be a tiny percentage of those 3500 people who are unable to whisper to an aid worker that they need help.
They at least have more chance of getting help than trafficked people in the UK, working as slaves on rural farms, 'Roma' traveller sites, and illegal brothels.

ALL the people in the 3-4000 of them who are not being held against their will are CHOOSING not to resister and claim asylum in France.
They choose the illegal unregistered migrant camp over UN standard care for refugees as French authorities will provide if they register.

This is a problem of the scum who are allowing it in their illegal camp they choose to live in, and also the problem of the French police.
But I say again, just a whisper to an aid worker that you need help and that help will come. These people have more access to help than trafficked workers in the UK.

originally posted by: stuthealien
a reply to: grainofsand

that camp has been there for years and is disgusting it is a case of hollande trying to pass his problem to the uk.
and as hollande allows it to go unpoliced he is just as guilty for any crime comited there.

here is a article about the camp in 2012 migrant camp in 2012

hollande is unfair really france has far more room

Agreed, it is shameful of the French authorities, and if a similar camp of people refusing to register was in the UK it would have been broken up months ago, and those refusing to claim asylum or give names would be in detention.
It is a dirty little French problem, but equally the thousands refusing to claim asylum in France have only themselves to blame for not receiving government housing, welfare, and healthcare.
Just #ing register in France and claim asylum!

a reply to: Revolution9

Defending women is not racist propaganda.

a reply to: romilo

Ain't happening and that's worrying.

First let me make perfectly clear THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT REFUGEES THEY ARE ECONOMIC MIGRANTS.
Now to answer your reasons, a migrant CANNOT claim asylum as he perposely made himself homeless and countryless.
To claim asylum the seeker must show that the country he is escaping is dangerous for him. That is what takes the time to decide to grant asylum ie. are they telling the truth or not.
Also by the UN definition an asylum seeker MUST register in the FIRST safe country they get to.
Now being as the majority of these people didn't fly into Calais they must have travelled through at least 3 safe countries so why didn't they claim asylum there.
Because THEY AINT REFUGEES THEY ARE MIGRANTS, there by their own choosing.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: Revolution9

Defending women is not racist propaganda.

Thank you.

a reply to: grainofsand

As the lady says, the women are expected to go through the men. In this day and age? What happened to the feminist voice?

(I'm going to say something shocking in a minute. Just got to take a few deep breaths first.)

a reply to: crayzeed

Good to see another voice of reason.
All this bleating that these thousands of people are stuck in the illegal unregistered migrant shanty camp is bull# and needs to be called out as such.
All those folk need to do to receive UN standard refugee care, including housing, food, welfare, and health care, is to register and claim asylum in France, yet they refuse.

...bleeding hearts please take note of that elephant in the room.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: grainofsand

As the lady says, the women are expected to go through the men. In this day and age? What happened to the feminist voice?

Then if true, that is the fault, and indicative of, the culture of the people who have created that illegal unregistered migrant camp. That speaks volumes to me.

(I'm going to say something shocking in a minute. Just got to take a few deep breaths first.)

Go for it, I like controversy in the appropriate place lol

a reply to: grainofsand

Not quite ready for it yet. Signing out for a while.

Its beautiful and comical to see words used to push fear, women in the usa get sexually assaulted every 107 seconds, damn those evil rampaging muslims.

Thanks for the propaganda.

a reply to: grainofsand

Looking at this situation something struck me. Some of the female aid workers and journalists seem to go a little dewy eyed while they're in the spotlight. Leaning out and beaming unnecessarily, holding all the eyes of the young men like it's a sex substitute. The result on the young men is just to be even more frustrated.

The whole situation could be handled a bit better, more maturely.

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

This is from the women. They all lying to you?