While the World Focuses on the Islamic State, Assad Keeps Bombing Doctors and Civilians

So the shiny object IS distracts again while the real atrocities continue, and none of it is getting fixed. This mess just doesn't end, does it?

Poor Syria gets it from all directions an then some as the people get reduced to collateral damage on some report and refugees who flee this insanity get vilified.

Look over here! Russia is doing something against IS...yay!

Look over here! IS hits Paris...nothing else matters.

Now look over there! Refugees bad...IS might sneak in...boo!

Now look here! US does nothng (but drone and drone and put 50 on the ground to deal with....something).

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A new report is warning the world not to focus too much on the Islamic State (IS), noting that the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has been bombing hospitals and civilian targets, a situation made worse recently by the arrival of Russian warplanes.

Russian airstrikes hit medical facilities at least 10 times during their first month of bombing in Syria, making matters even worse for doctors, nurses, and patients who have already endured repeated bombardment from Syrian government forces, according to a report from the non-profit group Physicians for Human Rights (PHR).

PHR said the Russian strikes, which began on September 30, included several in the vicinity of Aleppo, where 45 healthcare facilities have been hit in the past three years. According PHR, almost all of the city's doctors — 95 percent — have been killed, detained, or fled the area.

The group said it documented 329 attacks on Syrian medical facilities through October, leading to the deaths of 687 medical personnel across the country. It attributed 90 percent of those incidents to the Syrian government.

Ever action just seems to have an everworsening reaction. Seems to me the collateral damage keeps climbing and the people and not many others are the only ones suffering here. If I sound very confused, it's because I am. I can't keep track of this all even with a scorecard.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Propaganda and BS

AND EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE

Compare that to crimes of US backed ISIS

Pfft

Dont care. Deal with one issue at a time. Right now that issue is ISIS. America CANNOT go in and take out Assad, it would cause ww3 with Russia. SOOOO it is up to the Syrian people to take care of their own governmental trash.

a reply to: LastInLine1

The latest is Kerry's claim that they could get a ceasefire in 2 weeks .Seems that ISIS is getting clobbered and a ceasefire is their only hope for survival . I say keep it up Russia ,Syria and now France to clean the area of this evil .War is messy no doubt but a ISIS controlled Iraq/Syria is a night mare not just for them but for other countries in the region ....well maybe not Israel or SA .....

originally posted by: LastInLine1
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Propaganda and BS

AND EVEN IF IT WERE TRUE

Compare that to crimes of US backed ISIS

Pfft

All of it is propaganda and manipulation. That's pretty much the issue. It's gotten so mired in BS and so scattered as to who's fighting who with what that no one can even untangle it.

And only the people who don't even want to be there in the middle suffer.

a reply to: LastInLine1

Can you prove that? No. Why? Because it is BS!

On topic: the poor people need to get out of there! Assad was from the very beginning the asshole in this story and Putin is his last remaining ally.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Yeah here is the diffrence. Assad has not comitted a ACT OF WAR againt us in the west.

Assad = Not our business. Unless he decalres war or attacks us not our problem.

ISIS= Our business because of the little tiny fact of them WANTING US ALL DEAD.

But hey why dont you go over to ISIS land (what ever they call there country they carved out) and try setting up a embassey. Im sure they will let you bleed your little heart out to them.....after they cut your head off.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: LastInLine1

Can you prove that? No. Why? Because it is BS!

On topic: the poor people need to get out of there! Assad was from the very beginning the asshole in this story and Putin is his last remaining ally.

Try reading up on the history of the religious minority he belongs to.... they actually haven't had it easy, they were just at the right place at the time when the Baath party collapsed.

In fact, if you read a little, you'll realise that the Assad family belongs to a minority that is less islamic and more pan religious, borrowin from both gnosticism, christianity and neo platonism.

The opposition, mostly Sunnis are way more islamic than the rulers are.

Ironic isn't it... we are trying to democracise a country which current government, although a family rule, are way closer to democracy than the Sunnis are.

Follow the money.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Yeah here is the diffrence. Assad has not comitted a ACT OF WAR againt us in the west.

Assad = No our business. Unless he decalres war or attacks us not our problem.

ISIS= Our business because of the little tiny fact of them WANTING US ALL DEAD.

But hey why dont you go over to ISIS land (what ever they call there country they carved out) and try setting up a embassey. Im sure they will let you bleed your little heart our to them.....after they cut your head off.

What are you babbling about. Did you not just argue the opposite in another thread?

And do you honestly believe this is a war contained within any borders at this point?

a reply to: ~Lucidity
Erm no.

I said in the other thread we are at war with ISIS not Assad.

Assad I could not care less about.

Its ISIS that spread the war beyond the border and decalred war on us.

ISIS is the one that needs wipeing out. After that Syria and Assad is the ME problem not ours.

Those terrorists need to give up and stop this sensless war, they will never win! They need to return to the countries that spawned them.

This war wont end until the countries that are spawning terrorists are made accountable for thier disgusting funding of terrorism.

Its gonna be WW3 and we all know it. .. . .

None of those middle eastern countries could ever beat Russia, and I suspect nukes will be used if they ever try.

a reply to: flice

Want sthg to read? assads war crimes (google list)

Follow the reason

a reply to: Peeple
Who wrote that? The UN? Someone in America? Sorry dont believe a word of it. We all know Assad didnt gas his own people. Was made up to try to get us into another ground war

a reply to: odinsway

And you have prove of that? Show me!

originally posted by: odinsway
a reply to: Peeple
Who wrote that? The UN? Someone in America? Sorry dont believe a word of it. We all know Assad didnt gas his own people. Was made up to try to get us into another ground war

There were multiple reports of the FSA using gas attacks on the Syrian people, this was a psyop to begin bombing the Syrian government. Here is a picture worth a thousand words. Just tell people to do a little fact checking on the rebels and ISIL using chemical weapons. . .. . . .
www.thewhatandthewhy.com...

ISIS are making and using chemical weapons in Syria and Iraq says US official as horrific pictures of Kurdish soldiers' injuries caused by mustard gas emerge
US government is aware of ISIS using chemical weapons, official reveals
Militants believed to be making their own mustard agent in Syria and Iraq
www.dailymail.co.uk...

originally posted by: flice

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: LastInLine1

Can you prove that? No. Why? Because it is BS!

On topic: the poor people need to get out of there! Assad was from the very beginning the asshole in this story and Putin is his last remaining ally.

Try reading up on the history of the religious minority he belongs to.... they actually haven't had it easy, they were just at the right place at the time when the Baath party collapsed.

In fact, if you read a little, you'll realise that the Assad family belongs to a minority that is less islamic and more pan religious, borrowin from both gnosticism, christianity and neo platonism.

The opposition, mostly Sunnis are way more islamic than the rulers are.

Ironic isn't it... we are trying to democracise a country which current government, although a family rule, are way closer to democracy than the Sunnis are.

Follow the money.

I was going to post about that very issue, it is way more complicated than just dislike of one for another...Assad and his religion and people are not wanted by the Sunni majority (70% of the population) If Assad is toppled then the Alawites will be history. It would appear that Islam and different interpretations of it is the root of this conflictThe Difference Between Alawites and Sunnis in Syria

Who Are the Alawites in Syria?
Geographical Presence: Alawites are a Muslim minority group that accounts for around 12% of Syria’s population, with a few small pockets in Lebanon and Turkey (though not to be confused with Alevis, a Turkish Muslim minority). Around 70% of Syrians belongs to Sunni Islam, as does almost 90% of all Muslims in the world).

Doctrinal Differences: Alawites practice a unique but little known form of Islam that dates back to the 9th and 10th century. Its secretive nature is an outcome of centuries of isolation from the mainstream society and periodical persecution by the Sunni majority.

Sunnis believe that succession to prophet Mohammed (d. 632) rightly followed through the line of his most able and pious companions. Alawites follow the Shiite interpretation, claiming that succession should have been based on bloodlines. According to Shiite Islam, Mohammed’s only true heir, imam, was his son-in-law Ali bin Abu Talib.

But Alawites take a step further in the veneration of Imam Ali, allegedly investing him with divine attributes. Other specific elements such as the belief in divine incarnation, permissibility of alcohol, celebration of Christmas and Zoroastrian new year makes Alawite Islam highly suspect in the eyes of many orthodox Sunnis and Shiites.

Alawites and the Syrian Uprising
When the uprising against Bashar al-Assad kicked off, most Alawites rallied behind the regime (as did many Sunnis). Some out of loyalty to the Assad family, some out of fear that an elected government, inevitably dominated by politicians from the Sunni majority, would take revenge for the abuse of power committed by Alawite officers, and once again discriminate against the community as a whole. Many Alawites joined the feared pro-government militias, known as the Shabiha.

As the uprising escalated into a civil war, so did the sectarian tension in mixed Sunni-Alawite areas. There is growing resentment among many Sunnis over Alawite support for the regime, and deep conviction among the Alawites that they face a wholesale massacre if Assad is removed. This bodes ill for the resolution to the conflict, and any chance of national reconciliation once the violence ends.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: odinsway

And you have prove of that? Show me!

Russia provided satellite Intel on this as well and shared it publicly. That was what put the brakes on Syria a couple years ago. Shortly after that, Russian sanctions, don't figure.

I took the gassing incident as the line Russia drew that we stepped over.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Now look here! US does nothng (but drone and drone and put 50 on the ground to deal with….something).

Stop right there. You;re leaving out the thousands of air sorties and tons of hi explosive ordnance dropped on Syria by the US military, carried by these things…

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a reply to: ~Lucidity

I've been saying for over a year now that we just need to abandon that region and let them figure things out on their own. If refugees want to flee, I'm open to accepting them, but we can't seem to do anything in that area to improve it. If everything you do makes it worse, the only thing left to do is nothing.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: ~Lucidity

I've been saying for over a year now that we just need to abandon that region and let them figure things out on their own. If refugees want to flee, I'm open to accepting them, but we can't seem to do anything in that area to improve it. If everything you do makes it worse, the only thing left to do is nothing.

We should have done that a years ago.
But its to late for that now with ISIS.

They are not going to pack up and go home because we do.

We need to exterminate ISIS then pack up and go home.