I don't comprehend the strategic value of IS attacking outside their boarders.

All that attacking the major powers will do is hasten their own demise. Right now, IS has a Caliphate with approximate boarders, and many belligerent parties who they could engage. Their goal should be to conquer and control land, then find a political way to fend off the air campaign. This could be done simply by organizing into a regular force and cry out to the UN with reports of civilian casualties.

Although there is a theological answer for my question, most thoughtful political bodies would play the long game....get IS on the map, literally. Then, just like "normal" countries, they could use subterfuge and proxies to attack, not just their immediate enemies on the battlefield, but also countries that the don't like.

It just seems that attacking the Great Powers will bring about their quick demise, and do nothing to improve their situation on the battlefield, not even for a day. Historically, shock attacks by the underdog army were intended to push the invaders out by negatively influencing public opinion, this seems designed to draw the invaders back in.

a reply to: FlyingFox

They're terrorists. They always attack civilians because that's what they do. They literally do it all over the world. They want to instill fear and provoke a response. That's their strategy.

Inside pressure could be one factor, if they do not retaliate they look weak to the troops.
Recruitment could be another factor, it could inspire others that would replace the dead troops.
You also have to get in the religion mindset that is not entirely logical and is ruled by emotion and ego.


They are probably trying to satisfy the first two reasons without trying to antagonise the west to much because lets face it they could probably do lone wolfs attacks every week if they wanted to but the cost of retaliation would be far higher.

a reply to: FlyingFox

Economics. They seem to concentrate on attacking tourist areas/cities. Look at the recent downing of the Russian plane coming from a tourist area. And the attack at a resort in Turkey. Make people afraid to go to these spots - cut off their livelihood.

a reply to: FlyingFox

The goal of ISIS is to bring about a global government, global law enforcement agency and a global religion.

ISIS, The United Nations and the Global elite bloodlines all have the same goals.

weird, isn't it?

a reply to: FlyingFox

That's how they gain more followers.

You have to think outside the box. If you swallow the mainstream narrative about IS it indeed makes no sense except they are bad muslim terrorists that just want to kill you.

But if you realise that ISIS was created by the AngloZionist empire to create a "state" within Syria then you realise that NATO will then have a reason to invade Syria. Oh, not to topple Assad (which is in fact the ultimate goal) but to take out ISIS. ISIS also serves the same useful purpose as Al-Aqaeda and that's to be the Muslim boogeyman, to keep you afraid of Islam, to make you hate Islam, so the West can continue to meddle in the ME, pursue its policy of regime change and also invade at will. You won't care because they are invading evil Muslims, and at the same time topple a regime with extreme regional geopolitical importance.

Remember that NATO wanted to bomb Syria after the chemical attacks but then the UK parliament voted no and scuppered the plans. And then suddenly there was plan B - ISIS and suddenly we are bombing Syria after all. But now ISIS is such a threat we realise that ISIS needs to be removed with "boots on the ground" and at the same we can also remove Assad, Russia's ally, and thorn in Israel's side, and obstacle to the proposed pipeline that will transport gas from Qatar and through Syria. This pipeline will weaken Russia as it supplies Russia with a lot of gas.

The game that is being played is quite old. The end game the encirclement and subjugation of Russia and Syria is just another step along the way and ISIS is a tool that facilitates the latest round in this game.

When you know what the game is you can see all the "players" and easily predict the next move. In this case, escalation in Syria. The Paris attack is a direct response to Russian intervention in Syria. The AngloZionist Empire have realised that Russia is trying to out-maneuver them and that they won't allow Western-back rebel forces (including ISIS) to defeat Assad. Assad MUST go and if ISIS and the other rebels can't get it done what is the next logical step? A real invasion of Syria under the guise of eliminated ISIS of course.

The Paris attack might not be enough. So I wouldn't be suprised to see an attack in London or other European capital of a country that is bombing Syria.

Because they are taking the fight to West
The West has attacked their borders, inside their territory, why not open another front in the Waests own backyard
You bomb us and we will bomb you

No surprise really
It's not a strategy, it's revenge, it's war

a reply to: FlyingFox

Looking at the aftermath, people are scared. And trapped.

Retaliation is now necessary.

But against who?

ISIS hides behind civilians.

Look at who founded and directed ISIS. Russia is currently in Syria and all Isis held territory is up for grabs. In the race with the Russians for that ground they might need nato ground troops and their very own terrorist army give them the go ahead.

originally posted by: rockintitz
a reply to: FlyingFox

Looking at the aftermath, people are scared. And trapped.

Retaliation is now necessary.

But against who?

ISIS hides behind civilians.

And you can guarantee that the civilians who are being used, will not offer up any support beyond screaming at the evil west for daring look for any associations.

Happens here too. How dare we look at the families and homes of where suspected terrorists come from, it's obviously racism and bigotry to investigate the mosques where they had their heads filled with hate.

It's all in the script.

You have to remember one of the main goals is to bring about the coming of the 12th imam, that can only be done if there is "Armageddon" that requires them to pull off of the major powers into conflict , and draw them into combat at their designated arena

That's a huge influence on the why

ISIS is taking advantage of things like the unstable political situation in the Middle-East to grow their territory and they are very resistant to the air campaign due to being like cockroaches. Their political ideology is to expand, and they probably have their eye on Europe. To do this, they immigrate into Europe and then set off chains of terrorist attacks to destabilize the regions. Because they attack civilians instead of military they have an easy time winning against their chosen targets, and because they don't expect to live through an attack, they don't have to worry much... then the next round of recruits, fueled by political ideology, comes in and attacks again... meanwhile, they set up Mosques and begin expanding the Sharia Law.

a reply to: laminatedsoul

And you can guarantee that the civilians who are being used, will not offer up any support beyond screaming at the evil west for daring look for any associations. 

Not surprisingly, a lot of people believe state sponsored propaganda.

originally posted by: darkbake
ISIS is taking advantage of things like the unstable political situation in the Middle-East to grow their territory and they are very resistant to the air campaign due to being like cockroaches. Their political ideology is to expand, and they probably have their eye on Europe. To do this, they immigrate into Europe and then set off chains of terrorist attacks to destabilize the regions. Because they attack civilians instead of military they have an easy time winning against their chosen targets, and because they don't expect to live through an attack, they don't have to worry much... then the next round of recruits, fueled by political ideology, comes in and attacks again... meanwhile, they set up Mosques and begin expanding the Sharia Law.

LOL. Your FOX News at work right.

a reply to: FlyingFox

Just my opinion, such an attack is more a statement to Muslims who lean moderate... 'You think the Western ideal of democracy is superior to Sharia, but it can't protect its citizens or way of life. You live that life, you too are a target.'

They are causing panic and fear as we witnessed on ATS yesterday. They are driving a wedge between all Muslims and immigrants and their host countries. I'd say if that's their strategy they are doing a good job

I don't comprehend the strategic value of IS attacking outside their boarders.

Borders.

Was ISIS the perp of the Paris attack(s)?

But don't feel alone. It is incomprehensible. It is irrational.

a reply to: FlyingFox

One of the pillars of their existence is to hasten in the armageddon. They think this is the End-Times and they'll be reborn in Jannah ('Garden,' Heaven). If total and complete world war breaks out, it fulfils the prophecies they believe in.

a reply to: Kandinsky

Does that mean that fundamentalist Christians are cheering them on?