What is "The Bible"?

The Bible is...

(my opinion only)

The absolute truth...

Smothered in narrative..

sprinkled with fairy dust...

wrapped in mythology and extreme exaggeration

between two covers that labels it "holy"

a reply to: Akragon

a symbolic story about the different cycles of the earth, the planets paths through our sky, and an ancient astrological science of the waves of consciousness.

The cheap versions make good rolling papers.
Otherwise, having read it three times, I would say it is mostly nonsense.

a reply to: skunkape23

I'll make you a deal...

give me something Jesus said that was nonsense and i'll give you a star...

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: skunkape23

I'll make you a deal...

give me something Jesus said that was nonsense and i'll give you a star...

Jesus was my favorite character in that book. Nothing bad to say about him. Some of the other stuff is plumb # crazy.

a reply to: skunkape23

see that was my first point of the thread...

I DARE anyone to argue that...



Edit: still no star..

a reply to: Akragon
The Bible is a record (or purported record, if you prefer) of the relationship between two parties, God and Israel, coming to a climax in the New Testament.
Obviously humans are holding the pens, so the statement that "men wrote the Bible" is both true and without significance.
Their God is the subject-matter of the different formats; things he said (the prophets), things he did (the histories), and things they have thought about him.
That theme is what guided the collection of the various documents.

a reply to: DISRAELI

I was hoping you'd show up..

a reply to: Akragon

Enigmatic testaments.

Words that make children of men.

Spiritual truth.

a reply to: Bleeeeep

be as a child

right?

a reply to: Akragon

Indeed.

And while you're at it, go ahead and go get baptized too.




1 Corinthians 2:9-16

a reply to: Bleeeeep

I don't think 2x is necessary

originally posted by: Akragon
The Bible is...

(my opinion only)

The absolute truth...

Smothered in narrative..

sprinkled with fairy dust...

wrapped in mythology and extreme exaggeration

between two covers that labels it "holy"

That's exactly how I was picturing you as a person in my head just the other day
I jest of course

Great thread, thanks so much, highly relevant and important in a religious forum

a reply to: Akragon

give me something Jesus said that was nonsense and i'll give you a star

Luke 14:26, Luke 12:51-53, Matthew 10:35-36

I'm familiar with the religious counter arguments. They are also nonsense

Valuing a hypothetical [read unproven] afterlife with divinity over love for humanity and yourself is nonsense.

No need to star.

It is a book about entities not from earth interacting with humans sprinkled with accounts of unidentified flying objects, magic and miracles throughout.

a reply to: Lucid Lunacy

I'll star you anyways

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

this is a metaphysical argument... not that one should hate their families, but the physical aspect of them....

keep reading the chapter for the rest of the answer

a reply to: Akragon

The idea is that you love the hypothetical metaphysical things greater than you'd love family, yourself, and the whole of humanity. That doing so is the way to salvation. I understand. It is, to me, nonsense.

originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: Akragon

The idea is that you love the hypothetical metaphysical things greater than you'd love family, yourself, and the whole of humanity. That doing so is the way to salvation. I understand. It is, to me, nonsense.

I would say...

treat others as you might treat family...

not that its salvation... more like an understanding

a reply to: Akragon
I'm not talking about what you might say.

The break down of these verses from Jesus is:

Do not love yourself, or your family, more than you love me, if you want everlasting life.

If you do, then you got a serious problem.

"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."

They are foes because your love for them is the problem. You must love them less than you love Jesus.

Which is fine I suppose for a believer. All I see is someone claiming something supernatural that has not been substantiated with evidence, and then telling me the extent of which I'm permitted to love others in order to receive this alleged reward after death . Screw that, and screw him.

Easily reference all the verses in question here: link

a reply to: Lucid Lunacy

would this not be an argument of "do what is right" as opposed to what ones family and friends might believe?