No wonder the folks in L.A were freaking out - check out this amazing pic!!

a reply to: Bluesma
Please don't say it was over a highly populated area. It was over the Pacific Ocean.

I can see the US wanting to counter that....get their own buzz going...

Here is a Minotaur launch from Vandenberg. Pretty neat. It's what any high altitude rocket looks like at that time of day.


Here's a launch of another rocket. On the east coast. Also very cool.

"Methinks thou doth protest too much"

When you have an opinion you are not supposed to have and when it can't be allowed to be shared, a diff opinion will be force fed to the masses until you believe your own opinion to be wrong or you give up...

I want to know why family members missing since this time and entire families are being returned by military and escorted into their homes not answering calls from anyone...

And what's with the strange bodies being found?

At first I thought this was a real attack by a Chinese sub that made its way down from Alaska only to be vaporized by high energy laser...

makes you wonder anyway...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Bluesma
Please don't say it was over a highly populated area. It was over the Pacific Ocean.

Oh you know what I mean... within viewing of a LOT of people!
They could have done it somewhere more remote, as they usually do with other testing.
This was obviously a choice to let it be seen (and photographed, and videoed, and tweeted,) by a lot of excited and imaginative people.

a reply to: Bluesma

They could have done it somewhere more remote, as they usually do with other testing.

That would depend. If they wanted to do a very long range test, they need a lot of water out in front of them. And I wonder what the rules about ICBM testing from international waters might be, if there are any.

This was obviously a choice to let it be seen (and photographed, and videoed, and tweeted,) by a lot of excited and imaginative people.

Yes. They probably knew it would be seen. Just as they know the tests from Vandenberg will be seen. That doesn't mean they do it for that reason.

I guess if it was an attack by China choosing to attempt to make good on threats which was successfully averted, the best cover story to avoid panic would be to lay claim to a test...

Perhaps more Chinese will start blowing up supply yards again real soon...

Within the next two weeks say...

a reply to: [post=20012881]Sublimecraft[/post

Thats odd because in recent days I read on this blog 82.221.129.208... that in recent times both Rissia and the US fired some practice misslils.

As I recall Russia fired their missle back to Rissia from just off LA and the US fired their missle towards China. Interstingly, one puts out a red trail and the other a blue one. Not sure which is which now though.

originally posted by: Phage
Yes. They probably knew it would be seen. Just as they know the tests from Vandenberg will be seen. That doesn't mean they do it for that reason.

Why does testing from Vandenberg not circle the globe the way this one did?

People on the other side of the world are talking about this one.

I do not suggest that testing is only done for publicity,

But I suggest that where and when it is done might be chosen according to how widespread they want the word to go, as well. A few afficianados posting pics might not have been weighty enough to counter balance the changing attention and attitudes happening about Russia lately.

a reply to: Bluesma

Why does testing from Vendenberg not circle the globe the way this one did?

Why do you say this one did?

People on the other side of the world are talking about this one.

People who saw it? Who? Where?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Bluesma
Why do you say this one did?

Because I live in a rural area of South France, and people are talking about it here.

People who saw it? Who? Where?

Are you purposefully playing obtuse here?
No, the people in southern france did not see it... they are only seeing it ten times a day in photo from various media sources.
The area of southern California, the home of the movie making industry in the US, is home to a population that is very imaginative, focused on image, and creative storytelling.

You believe that the military is not aware of that, and can't take it into account when choosing the locations for their tests?

I just asked if anyone thinks that is possible... I guess your answer is no, it is not possible that influencing international opinion about the American military force through social media and the common citizens ability to dramatize,
was part of the choice of location?

a reply to: Bluesma

Id say more of a safety concern rocket test failing and crashing into the Pacific no big deal. Going off course inland and stroking a populated area bug problem. The Pacific is often used for large tests however I do believe that if they were trying to hide it they would have done a launch during the day. So it doesn't seem like they are trying to keep it secret either.

Very cool photo, thanks for sharing!

a reply to: dragonridr

They could test off the coast of Oregon, Washington, or even Alaska.
Instead they're now testing tridents off the coast of California and Florida.
More people, more sensationalism.
In this article -
www.latimes.com...

It mentions

The Navy is considering posting additional photos -- and possibly video -- of the missile launches after the current exercises are completed,

Which might garner more attention now, since the UFO cries got everyone's attention. Without that, there is little notice taken of missile testing. Now, three days in, we're still seeing some headlines about a mass UFO sighting, but there are some informed people getting pulled into correcting and explaining, and then both go to look into it more.
You get everyone playing into it.

My (not terribly important, but slightly ironic) point here to this conspiracy theory site is,
we are maybe playing our roles as desired.
Just my opinion. Carry on!

a reply to: Zaphod58

Crispy critter time.

From Phage ...... "Here is a Minotaur launch from Vandenberg". ... Vandenberg was my first thought. I recall several in the 70's and 80's lighting the skies. Amazing to watch live, standing with others.

That's what you call a lucky photo. Doing one thing, and capturing something really cool you didn't expect.

I wonder how well the lasers worked? (That part would be over the horizon from the coast.) I think these missiles are being launched to test those. (Hush-hush, but we know enough that those systems exist, and should be mature enough for real-world trials.) Perhaps it's also just a show for China, given what's going on with the Spratlys.

a reply to: Bedlam

Seen a few that were almost blown because some idiot had to show off how much he knew to his reporter buddy.

originally posted by: weirdguy
This Top Secret Military Exercise is a fail. LOL!

No it wasn't.

From Ketsukos link up the page…

The second test launch of the Trident II (D5) missile from a ballistic submarine in the Pacific Ocean took place Monday afternoon, the Navy said.

Imagine the Chinese and Russian surprise when their early launch detection apparatus sounded, and a missile track appeared climbing to apogee, headed right towards them… twice.

Very successful Asian 'pivot' there. A little trepidation with their Sunday and Monday doldrums for those 'down range'.

a reply to: intrptr

Except they were informed prior to the launches that there would be launches made. Not exactly when, but they were given a window when they would occur.

a reply to: Zaphod58

hey zaphod.

I've heard that the plume had a greenish blue glow. all the pictures ive seen appear blue. but people are saying there was some green in there....which gets me thinking... testing out some lady juice slurry in the boosters?