Terrorist smuggled into Europe disguised as refugee on boat heading for Italy

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Another terrorist has been caught disguised as a refugee in Italy and still some on ATS and in the World in general will say the people who are concerned are being paranoid, islamaphobic, racist. When will people wake up. I think something really big is going to have to happen before some wake up but by then it will be too late.

ISIS have yet again released another propaganda video showing them killing hundreds of children it is being reported.

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I would like to know, for those who say it is all the West's fault for bombing Iraq and Syria. What do they think Europe and the World should do. Should we all just turn a blind eye to this and let them just fight it out between themselves? Is that what people think? If we just turn away from this where will it end? They are already making in roads in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia and today I have read somewhere they are asking for muslims in Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago to rise up in their latest propaganda video.

www.express.co.uk...

So I am asking a serious question what do people from all parts of the world think needs to be done to stop this evil ideology and where do people think it is going to end?

I'm trying to visualize the difference in appearance between a refugee and a terrorist. In fact, I didn't realize you could just spot a terrorist for them to need a disguise. I mean, just taking a shower would go a long way....

I guess I'm confused. If these terrorist are just mercenaries, where does it matter where they come from. Your governments always gonna have a checkbook waiting.

a reply to: anxiouswens

Personally, i cannot think of a single time when our collective Governments have been so damned irresponsible with the security of our countries.

We lose lorry loads of rights, traded away for 'safety and security' from terrorism...then allow millions (so far) of complete strangers into those exact same countries trading away rights, from the exact same countries we claim the terrorists are from!

Does anyone else see what's wrong with this picture?

Catching one or two terrorists here or there is the very tip of the iceberg imo, there could be hundreds of cells organising themselves as i type.

Yea for more general blanket statements about the evil muslms.

Anybody have an estimate on when those millions of terrorist are taking over europe.

With all the daily muslim stories in the media, it must be anyday know right.

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

The point is with SO many people arriving without documentation, without a history that can be reliably validated ANY number of terrorists can slip through mixed in with the genuine refugees.

Muslim or otherwise.

Or don't you believe in terrorism? It's been forced down our throats almost daily since 9/11, and now we are just allowing them to skip over our borders...it is at best total irresponsibility, and at worse a very dangerous mistake that may well cause multiple deaths and major upheaval right across Europe and elsewhere.

It's not about ethnicity or religion, it's about common bloody sense.

a reply to: MysterX

Google commen sense, it has nothing to do with your op.

a reply to: anxiouswens

From The Independent:

Despite giving a false name and claiming that he was seeking asylum in northern Europe to escape political persecution, finger prints revealed his true identity. He was held along with three other men, thought to be the human traffickers who had organised the trip, and interrogated by police in the Sicilian city of Agrigento. Several days later Mehdi, 38, was repatriated, and put into the hands of Tunisian authorities. Local press reports suggest that authorities had attempted to conceal the incident to prevent panic.

He was caught trying -trying - to enter Italy. He didn't get in.

I would like to know, for those who say it is all the West's fault for bombing Iraq and Syria. What do they think Europe and the World should do. Should we all just turn a blind eye to this and let them just fight it out between themselves? Is that what people think?

How is this turning a blind eye to anything? It was known who he was, it doesn't take a genius to guess that he might try and come back - he was caught. Let me ask you something in all seriousness - what do you think needs to be done to stop this ideology?

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: anxiouswens

Does anyone else see what's wrong with this picture?

Oh yeah

Catching one or two terrorists here or there is the very tip of the iceberg imo, there could be hundreds of cells organising themselves as i type.

It's an attempt to calm the people of Europe ... after all that has happened, people are starting to panic.

a reply to: anxiouswens

Well there you have it folks! One terrorist was caught, therefore they are all terrorists!

a reply to: MysterX

The point is with SO many people arriving without documentation, without a history that can be reliably validated ANY number of terrorists can slip through mixed in with the genuine refugees. Muslim or otherwise. Or don't you believe in terrorism? It's been forced down our throats almost daily since 9/11, and now we are just allowing them to skip over our borders...it is at best total irresponsibility, and at worse a very dangerous mistake that may well cause multiple deaths and major upheaval right across Europe and elsewhere. It's not about ethnicity or religion, it's about common bloody sense.

So are you actually implying we should tag and track all the immigrants from other countries? I don't see any other way in which your going to be able to validate the history of every person who comes in and out with out some massive network. Who do you propose is to supervise this new bureaucratic immigration institution? The very same state that has been plotting their illegal war profiteering in these same countries the refugees are flooding from?

Do you not see TPTB prey on your paranoia,xenophobia and use it to justify what they want. More control over lives.. Problem.Your Reaction.Their Solution. It's all been formulated for their viewing pleasure.

a reply to: NateTheAnimator

Yes, but the problems they cause are still real. Europe is on a trajectory where it will look like the Bosnia region in the future. A lot of us don't want to give up our culture to ungrateful religious fanatics. We don't want separate societies within our countries, we don't want minority populations at war with the authorities, and this is where we're headed.

The combination of these Muslims and this total saturation of cultural Marxist ideology will in turn also radicalize Europeans.

a reply to: anxiouswens

I would like to know, for those who say it is all the West's fault for bombing Iraq and Syria. What do they think Europe and the World should do. Should we all just turn a blind eye to this and let them just fight it out between themselves? Is that what people think? If we just turn away from this where will it end? They are already making in roads in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia and today I have read somewhere they are asking for muslims in Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago to rise up in their latest propaganda video.

So I am asking a serious question what do people from all parts of the world think needs to be done to stop this evil ideology and where do people think it is going to end?

My oh my! Classy

Youre putting your SOLUTION out there at last!!! Bout time buddy

I can guess and would LOVE to see you actually spell it out. What would you like done with the 'evil ideology?' Those billion+++ Muslims!? You don't want to 'let them fight it out between themselves.' Hell no!! Let's get in there right?

What's the game-plan? Final solutions? Carpet bombings? Nuke 'em?? We can start with collecting their asses together in our countries so we know where they all are!!!

originally posted by: anxiouswens
So I am asking a serious question what do people from all parts of the world think needs to be done to stop this evil ideology and where do people think it is going to end?

The situation is very complex unfortunatley some people have the attention span of a tabloid paragraph and are incapable of thinking. Let me help with a few yes/no's to make it simple:

Is it all the wests fault ? NO.
Is the West entirely blameless : NO
Did the US/West create ISIS : NO
Did the actions of the West help ISIS gain power : Yes
Would ISIS have gained power anyway (albeit a bit longer ) : Highly likely
Are all refugees from Syria : NO
Are all refugees young men : No
Are all refugees terrorists : NO
Are there terrorists amongst the refugees : Yes
Are there economic (most likely Balkan) migrants : Yes
Are the majority of refugees utterly p.ssed off and desperate normal people : Yes
Will this migration stop anytime soon : No
Is the solution to send them all back : No
Are all refugees Muslims : No (Oh my god sharp intake of breathe there!!)
Are some refugees christians : Yes
Are all Muslims fanatics : No
Are all Christians moderate : No
Will bombing remove ISIS : No
Will bombing SDF remove ISIS : NO (in fact it will take longer, tell the fricking Russians!)
Do the majority of people go back home once the conflict has been resolved : Yes
Does the de-humanisation of the refugees have any historical precedant : Yes
Was there a Final Solution in history : Yes
Do we repeat history : No , but the language has already started, sadly.

What resolves conflict? ______________ (if you're smart you know the answer)

a reply to: TheLaughingGod

We don't want separate societies within our countries, we don't want minority populations at war with the authorities, and this is where we're headed.

Your always going to have societies within a society, you have differing cultures due to the different interpretations of the dominant culture. How do you plan to suppress other cultures?

Cultural genocide like the Europeans did to native Americans? Or what the west tried doing with the boxer rebellion, yeah those events of history were real good, lets repeat those please. Sarc/

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Seeing as how few people have any sense Im much more apt to say there is no such thing as common sense.

Terrorists most certainly are taking advantage of the present climate...but repressed people's often create a collective effort against their oppressors...to me this is to be expected.

A terrorist who is trying to sneak into a county like this is either to stupid or to poorly funded to worry about. Every major terrorist attack has been performed by people who fly into a county with forged paper work. If a terror group can not manage at least that much they are nothing to worry about. They do not need to sneak in unless they are incompetent.

a reply to: beansidhe

Shhhh! You're not actually supposed to read the articles! You're only supposed to believe the title and assume the worst. That, and Muslims are bad.

And would people stop using the UKexpress, Daily Mail, and UK mirror as sources already.....

a reply to: Swills

Sorry Swills, I messed up. Muslims are scary - I'll try and get that right next time.

a reply to: MysterX

After all the incidents of Muslim lone wolf attacks Europe lets millions of Muslims into their countries with zero ability to track them.

sounds smart

ISIS could be crushed in a matter of 4 weeks if someone really wanted to.
now there are 2 superpowers and several other countries fighting them and they are still doing pretty good! that seems not right.

also ISIS never attacks israel in any way. that also seems not right.

and then we have europe opening up all its borders for people that could be - and obviously are - enemy combatants!

does anyone really think this is coincidence?

that is all planned and part of the plan.
people with some common sense who don't cooperate are being called nazis.