Lights in the sky above LA

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Hieronymousanonymous

this object only extremely superficially looks like a comet or missile-

It looks nothing like a comet. It does, however, look like a rocket.

This official rocket launch really doesn't resemble the light show just seen over California. How bizarre that an unexplained sight results in so many people arguing that it's something normal, even though it doesn't look like it. I'd have an easier time believing it was some exotic space junk burning up in our atmosphere. But it just doesn't look like a rocket launch which lacks in the glowing blue and green plasma, and the dramatic stages we just saw over Cali.

Also there is the common sense aspect: If the military really wanted to test a missile, they could do it over the ocean without making a strange light show. Or they could do it during daylight to avoid the light show. Or, if they really wanted to make a nighttime light show, they could ANNOUNCE it beforehand, so half the country isn't shocked and wondering what UFO seems to be flying over our country. If they announced it first, then no one would be freaked out and people would just watch it calmly, like the actual rocket launches.

So arguing "it's a missile test" doesn't explain any of the common sense problems with what we all saw.

I wonder if this is linked to the redirected traffic from LAX ?

Apparently all flights were redirected to approach / take off over residential areas yesterday for a few hours.

Military is saying there is a "Huge" "exercise" going on off the coast of California. Exercises are usually announced a long time in advance, and this seemed to catch everyone by surprise.

Mysterious lights in the sky seen over the exact same area that previously unannounced military exercises are taking place? Telling everyone it's a rocket launch when it quite clearly looks like something different. If it was a rocket launch, wouldn't there be a fairly significant contrail and an announcement to the public before hand?

Mysterious previously unannounced "large scale military exercises" and mysterious previously unannounced inadequately explained lights in the sky all in the same area at the same time are the reasons that conspiracies get started.

I'd say something BIG is happening off the coast of California.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: game over man

It was seen from over 100's of miles, Northern California, SoCal, AZ, and Reno.

Yes. Just as shuttle launches were seen along the entire East Coast. When things get very high they can be seen over great distances.

On their trip to Africa to land so the 747 can then pick them up. That dam thing never went into space once. Why do you think NASA owned a Blackbird? To fool everyone into thinking the sonic boom was from the shuttle.

They never flew straight up, always out to sea towards Africa and don't give me cause the earth is spinning crap cause its not.

a reply to: peacefulpete

If the military really wanted to test a missile, they could do it over the ocean without making a strange light show.

They did do it over the ocean.

so half the country isn't shocked and wondering what UFO seems to be flying over our country.

I don't think half the country thought it was a UFO. I think most people who saw it understood what it was because such things are done fairly often. I think a minority (some of whom are right here on ATS) think it was anything but a missile.

www.spacearchive.info...
www.spacearchive.info...

a reply to: peacefulpete

They never announce missile launches prior.

They still didn't take their little submarine and go a little farther out to sea and point it in a direction where millions of people wouldn't witness it. Or at least not witness such a spectacle. The event is almost 2 minutes long. In between California and Hawaii would have been perfect, no one would have saw it.

a reply to: game over man

Where they were is a military operating area. It doesn't matter if people see the launch or not.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: peacefulpete

They never announce missile launches prior.

www.spacearchive.info...

"This schedule lists rocket and missile launches from Vandenberg AFB for the next several months"

a reply to: game over man

They still didn't take their little submarine and go a little farther out to sea and point it in a direction where millions of people wouldn't witness it. Or at least not witness such a spectacle. The event is almost 2 minutes long. In between California and Hawaii would have been perfect, no one would have saw it.

Pretty large submarine, actually. How far offshore do you think it was?
www.military-today.com...

And it would not have been possible to test the flight over the same distance, would it? Because that would have eaten of 1,000 miles of downrange.

Why are you so concerned that people saw it?

originally posted by: game over man The event is almost 2 minutes long. In between California and Hawaii would have been perfect, no one would have saw it.

which suggests the event was fully intended to be seen. a display.

a reply to: babybunnies

Yes. This is part of the exercise. It caught people that weren't involved by surprise, but even though they announce exercises ahead of time they don't announce missile launches.

a reply to: babybunnies

Those are not SLBM tests.

a reply to: babybunnies

That's not a missile launch, that's a rocket putting a payload into orbit. Big difference. They don't announce Minuteman or Trident launches ahead of time.

All of those are rockets putting payloads up.

a reply to: Phage

What are you talking about? Now you're not even making any sense. Look at a map and look at the video.

So this is a follow up on my earlier post..

I took a decent short video but don't know how to post videos (never took the time).

Anyways the video I have shows it coming up from the south but is coming from Over Land NOT water.. But I think maybe that's because I'm on the coast by Gilroy (101/152 Sonics) it might have started over water but because it was coming Northwest maybe I was just at a point were its trajectory took it over NorCal for a few miles.

Also as to the loitering/hovering I observed: It was coming Directly over head and seemed to pause for a minute or so, then became An EXTREMELY BRIGHT White light. Then Changed Direction and headed MORE WEST than North, which it was originally headed Northwest but not so much West as the new Trajectory.......
^^^ I think what explains that is the rocket maybe was between booster firing stage or something and since it was coming directly at us seemed to not move for a minute. Then the next stage of the booster kicked on and that was the REALLY bright white light I saw, and maybe when that was igniting it also changed its trajectory more west and that's why it changed direction and seemed super bright for a second is because the booster turned toward us and appeared like a spot light from a helicopter..

The video I have is right after the flash/booster kicks on because that's what made me run to the car and grab my phone.
Also it shows the green exhaust/fuel plume and there's a few trees between us and the rocket from our viewpoint. We were facing directly south and the beach is directly west of where we were. So that shows/proves it came over land here in NorCal for at least a short while.

Thanks

a reply to: game over man

I have. What's your point?

a reply to: Patriotsrevenge

And yet the NASA SR-71s flew out of the opposite side of the country, and retired well before the shuttle. So what did they use in Florida and in the years after they retired?

a reply to: babybunnies

Exactly and apparently this is a routine exercise...HA!

Something is not adding up....Oh and yes everyone accepts the statement it was a missile test but that is not what everyone thinks. For crying out loud all the youtube videos are named UFO every picture is hash tagged with UFO and every comment is discussing UFO's.

a reply to: game over man

For crying out loud all the youtube videos are named UFO every picture is hash tagged with UFO and every comment is discussing UFO's.

Well that proves it then. It was not a missile because youtube.

a reply to: Phage

You're acting like the ocean is tiny and I have a lot of respect for the ocean. The ocean is much bigger than you think.