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posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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Things are just not right in the world. Healthcare and treatment is really expensive. The homeless numbers are growing. Some of the youth seem slower to mentally mature with each generation. The laws and are getting to the point where Almost anyone at any given time can be arrested for any little thing. A real good portion of Police abusing citizens is a real thing. Racism is real on all sides. The rich keep getting richer and the poor just keep getting well you know. Entertainment and Material goods are held above Education, even held above the human being. Privilege is a very real thing.

G/D, The creator. People really want to get rid of the idea. I personally belive in G D. We can all choose to belive what we wish. I just belive that we should all respect each others beliefs. Some Athiest can " preach" more than belivers.

Some people say we have the crab in a barrel mentalilty. The crabs only hold each other down because the barrel is not natural to them. Its not how they should live. ugh .

I dont think we should have political partys. No need for a left and a right. I belive in the American Dream. no not the house white picket fence idea. I belive the American Dream is that tommorows generation does better than todays. Thats not even american I think thats us as a species. We all want better for our children. We want no war. We all want food, shelter, and comfort.
Our Hands are tied. It really feels like we are cattle or something. People been protesting since forever and well we still here protesting.
What if all those protesters filed cases in court for the change they want, all at the same time. would that work?

What are your thoughts ? How can we help each other to make this a better place? I wish ever single one of you a great day and wonderful weekend.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: Prisoner60863
Things are just not right in the world. Healthcare and treatment is really expensive.
Nope, the rest of the 'Western' world is okay in that regard, it is just the US which does not provide health care to it's poor citizens.
It is a scandal, shameful, and I await the next member to say that health care for poor people is a socialist disgrace lol.
Priorities and all that, regarding the rest of your post I'm glad I don't live in the US.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 09:57 AM
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a reply to: grainofsand

I agree with you. The response is the United States is a big country compared to....
I always say The united states has enough money to pay its celebritys more income than a few small countries combined.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 10:08 AM
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a reply to: Prisoner60863

The size of a nation is a lame arsed excuse.
Why do you think there are multinational stores succeeding well with tens of thousands of staff? Ever heard of economies of scale, strange how every other industry is capable of operating on a national level in the US except health care.

Even to those who bleat that it is against the constitution for it to be at a federal level, why not individual states?
A state could hold a referendum asking "Do you wish our citizens to be exempt from the ACA and instead create a state tax funded healthcare system for it's citizens the same as European countries?"

It could happen if US citizens wanted it, and it would not infringe your personal rights to buy your own private healthcare, as we are free in Europe to buy our own if we wish.
Your taxes fund fire departments, coastguard search and rescue services, police, roads, trash collection, but when it comes to healthcare (possibly the most important thing for citizens) y'all bleat "Oh, it's socialist!"
Lame as # in my opinion, and it makes me think that the average US citizen doesn't give a toss about their poor folk.

...oh and to anyone out there who wants to say the poor are taken care of I call BS. There are plenty of tragic stories in threads on ATS from members who are suffering pain and discomfort because they cannot afford ongoing drugs because your country will not pay it through taxes.

It is the biggest disgrace of all in the US.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 10:33 AM
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Seeing the world through the jaundiced eye of an American it seems. Up here in the GWN life is pretty grand especially since the Harperites are a bad memory.




posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: Kukri

It's strange isn't it how so many members shout 'Murika!' and criticise those of us who are from countries which have a constitutional monarchy as downtrodden subjects.
For the record, I'm a republican and wish for my nation to have a head of state which is not decided by accident of birth, but regarding quality of life, I wouldn't wanna live in the US.

Police brutality:
The US is 6 times the population of the UK so for every 100 youtube vids posted on ATS showing psycho US cops, even making national MSM media news in the UK at times, I ask why do I not see at least 16 vids from the UK?
The answer is most clearly that it is a US problem where they have a bigger percentage of bad-apple cops than most other civilised nations.
US citizens posting on ATS that they comply instantly/show respect/drop to their knees with a begging mouth to their police in fear, but pretty much all UK members here saying they do not fear their police and are able to argue with them with most usually being chilled and professional even when they arrest us.

Healthcare:
I have read many many stories from US based ATS members who are suffering terribly because they cannot afford ongoing medicines for their ailments, yet strangely none from the UK. Again, for every 100 US stories on ATS I would expect at least 16 from the UK.
The most crazy thing I see is US members still shouting 'Murika' and deluding themselves that there is no problem with poor folk suffering because those who are okay don't give a # enough to provide a tax funded health system for their fellow citizens. That's socialist of course helping fellow man.
Stranger still how fire departments, police, coastguard search and rescue teams etc are not socialist but healthcare is, even if it was brought in at a state level???

I'm not dissing the US here, but I am saying to those members who shout 'Murika!' and call me a controlled subject of the Crown, it sounds so much nicer being the controlled subject you claim than the 'free' citizen you present yourselves as.
I bid you my best wishes, but some of you need to take the blinkers off.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

Everything you've said will fall on deaf ears. Here in the U.S., republicans feel the government can't run any program successfully. Yet most of the elderly in the U.S. would be fuming mad if they lost their Social Security and Medicaid benefits. The GOP is notorious for attacking public education funding, yet don't have the wisdom to understand that education is the keystone and important part of a country's economy, innovation and maintaining strong leadership in the world today. I get disgusted when I hear the average citizen complaining about national healthcare and getting rid of programs that are an enormous benefit to the public at large. We pay for these programs through our tax dollars, yet these same people turn a blind eye to the trillions of dollars the U.S. wastes on military spending and on an invasive foreign policy.

A lot of these government programs that benefit citizens would be managed much better if we had public oversight that prevented government representatives from embezzling millions away from these funds. We have a military budget that spends more on defense than the next 7 countries combined!! Most industrialized countries get it, unfortunately the U.S. government doesn't value its citizens as much.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: Prisoner60863

Embrace socialism, well you are, but any attempt on undermining it..



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

I'm for dictatorship, for me it's a simple choice if I can choose a king before a public elected actor who hasn't been schooled In , for the people, you buy a political ideal with a politician. And how many of them do you think with what's best for me? You will get rotten apples with kings, but in Sweden we are starting a program for a sole purpose become a political with an understanding of social responsibility to the people.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: grainofsand

I'm for dictatorship, for me it's a simple choice if I can choose a king before a public elected actor who hasn't been schooled In , for the people, you buy a political ideal with a politician.
Wow, just...wow.
I'll agree that if the dictatorship is not a bad place to live then I wouldn't care so long as I can continue disregarding as many laws as I do right now, but wow, you can't really want that dictatorship...can you?



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

If I have a good leader, I'd want the same person.. But you always have to have that illusion of choice



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: rajas


I'm for dictatorship,


What an extraordinarily strange thing to say. Is it because you don't trust yourself to make the right decisions, or are you afraid of freedom? I think some people do need others to tell them what to do. Are you one of them?

By the way, there are still countries who have dictators. You could go there if you wanted. Maybe. Then you'd have someone to tell you what to do; how to live. Decisions are made for you. I've recently decided that if another country fits what you want, you should move there to fit your needs, rather than trying to change the country you are in, to make them fit your needs.

I know personally it wouldn't work for me. I resent it when others want to dictate how I should live. A lot.
But everybody is different.

eta: Actually fear of freedom has a name: Eleutherophobia



Symptoms of Eleutherophobia include suspicion of others, a sense of servitude, nausea at the thought of freedom, social anxiety, tremors, difficulty of breathing and weeping.

To overcome this fear usually requires information. A person should understand what freedom means and how it can provide personal and corporate liberty. A therapist can help manage the fear by explaining the prospects of freedom, and usually, your response has a lot to do on how you view these prospects. Changing the logic response and the fear response may follow.

www.phobiasource.com...




edit on 11/7/2015 by angeldoll because: Because fear of freedom



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

If i don't think I can make the right decision, contrary, I believe the masses can't make the right decision for their next door neighbor if it doesn't benefit them in anyway, and the clear picture you get of that assumption.. Every democratic election that has taken place has never been to the benefit of anyone else than yourself, called tyranny of the masses, quoted by a known philosopher called John Stuart Mills.

But since you want it in more modern paradigm called psychology, behavior of the masses you have numerous books on the subject. And it takes in the whole picture instead of the psychology to individualize.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

I called you neurotic once, seems I wasn't that of course



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: rajas

lol! Neurotic? Guilty! (actually I think you must have me mixed up with someone else, I don't remember that)'

Still no response to my curiosity though, as to why you would like to live under a dictatorship? Inquiring minds, etc.






posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: rajas

So you take decisions blindly based on accident of birth to decide your ruler?! Hahahaha!
You truly are the serf, and willingly so...tragic as #.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: angeldoll

If i don't think I can make the right decision, contrary, I believe the masses can't make the right decision for their next door neighbor if it doesn't benefit them in anyway, and the clear picture you get of that assumption.. Every democratic election that has taken place has never been to the benefit of anyone else than yourself, called tyranny of the masses, quoted by a known philosopher called John Stuart Mills.

But since you want it in more modern paradigm called psychology, behavior of the masses you have numerous books on the subject. And it takes in the whole picture instead of the psychology to individualize.


But I want to know why YOU want someone to dictate how you live.



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

I believe in the right teacher and the right student.. And among the rest you can find a diamond here and there..



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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a reply to: angeldoll

You cant, now you figure out the rest



posted on Nov, 7 2015 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: rajas
a reply to: grainofsand

I believe in the right teacher and the right student.. And among the rest you can find a diamond here and there..
Oh stop with the cryptic bull#, you want the hardest gang to rule you. Your attitude is exactly sheeplike which is rightly ridiculed.
You don't trust the democratic process so you want a leader chosen by accident of birth.
Lame as #.



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