NLBS 3.04 - NYPD X-Ray Vans Loose On The Streets of New York

a reply to: infolurker

Perhaps ok in and of its singular use. But what if I have just had chest Xrays, gallium scan, Ctscan with contrast, and then get this type of uncontrolled Xray a few times, courtesy of the local police?

The NYPD has no clue as to the levels of radiation each citizen has recently been exposed to and, it would seem, that would put the NYPD in a legal position as defendent for years to come.

With the most progressive mayor in NYC since Laguardia this is really a thing??

originally posted by: Spider879
With the most progressive mayor in NYC since Laguardia this is really a thing??

Progressive and Liberal are two different things.

Most Progressives like NeoCons are Authoritarians. They believe in enforcing their world view by using the power of the State.

Border patrol uses these to detect drug smuggling, illegal immigration, and weapons coming across the border.

Heres what images from that look like.

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The X-ray vans at issue are essentially a version of older airport body scanners mounted on a truck.

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ProPublica filed the request as part of its investigation into the proliferation of security equipment, including airport body scanners, that expose people to ionizing radiation, which can mutate DNA and increase the risk of cancer.

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When Customs began using the vans extensively in 2010, the agency prohibited their use on occupied vehicles and required that people get out of the vehicles before they were X-rayed.

Article from Jan. 2015

Officialdom will tell us that the dose is smallish hardly harmful. The reality is X-rays are ionizing radiation and potentially harmful if even one "ray" strikes DNA in a cell, causing a mutation that gives rise to cancer.

The long-term health risks of low levels of radiation are unknown. But the National Academy has taken the position that the danger comes from cumulative exposure and that even trivial amounts increase the risk of cancer.

Okay, they aren't that dangerous (rolls eyes). The secret is how they are begin employed…

But because the NYPD has refused to release the department's policies and procedures, it's unclear how widely the vans are being used—if at all, whether they're being used to scan people or even if police are deploying them for routine patrols on busy city streets.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Spider879
With the most progressive mayor in NYC since Laguardia this is really a thing??

Progressive and Liberal are two different things.

Most Progressives like NeoCons are Authoritarians. They believe in enforcing their world view by using the power of the State.

A lot of people on the left, especially in New York, are for this kind of surveillance and other micromanaging of their citizens, such as making certain kinds of soft drinks illegal. It is a more totalitarian sect of the left than Bernie Sanders, who would probably be against this surveillance.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

So, shouldn't someone call OSHA for the police in this van? Seems like the unions should be throwing a fit!

The best way to deal with this is like I do with cop I know, telling them their radar gun will eventually give them testicular cancer, love the way they react knowing I have knowledge in RF and are never sure if I'm just pulling their legs...

Me think those big X-ray machine have a lot more potential than low level microwave at toasting those driver's balls.

originally posted by: darkbake

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Spider879
With the most progressive mayor in NYC since Laguardia this is really a thing??

Progressive and Liberal are two different things.

Most Progressives like NeoCons are Authoritarians. They believe in enforcing their world view by using the power of the State.

A lot of people on the left, especially in New York, are for this kind of surveillance and other micromanaging of their citizens, such as making certain kinds of soft drinks illegal. It is a more totalitarian sect of the left than Bernie Sanders, who would probably be against this surveillance.

No they are not and you are referring to Mayor Bloomberg, he was no lefty he was as much a Democrat as he was Republican in other words he was an Independent look up his bio.
en.wikipedia.org...
If you want to point fingers point fingers at the good folks that gave us the national security state post 911, that's where all this stems from.

originally posted by: redoubt
Privacy in one's home is now, today, a thing of the past...
...

Gotta love the metallic and fibre multi-layer insulation that's around these days.

Many advantages.. ;-)

Well Joe ,

Welcome to George Orwells aka Eric Blair 1984

Ignorance is Strength


Welcome to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World...


The Past has Shown a lot of hints

The Conditioning and Control..

to censorship , banning , plagiarism,
historical revisionism. Surveillance spying, watched

within the past Decade
London Metro






Big Brother Watching? Cities Add Cameras

By JOHN HENDREN July 6, 2008
abcnews.go.com...

Where Little Is Left Outside the Camera’s Eye

By MARK LANDLER
Published: July 8, 2007 // A London resident can be taped hundreds of times a day, experts say.
www.nytimes.com...



Town Police , Military Surplus Equipment
used to threaten Elderly Couple of a Town Judgment Issue ,

Armored vehicle helps collect civil judgment in small town
www.jsonline.com...





The Orwellian World is Getting Closer ..

And this X Ray Van in your Video/Post , is Just another part of the Issue ..

Next,, it will be Book Burning/Erasing ( Banning ) from Fire Station Employees
another historical revisionism..

the 3rd Book, will be Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451.

Hell the US ( Boston Dynamics ) Already Making the Mechanical Hounds !

Pray That This Scary, Galloping Four-Legged Robot Never Comes for You
www.wired.com...

List of robotic dogs
en.wikipedia.org...


List of books banned by governments
en.wikipedia.org...

Book censorship in the United States
en.wikipedia.org...

List of most commonly challenged books in the United States
en.wikipedia.org...

In the United States, many books have been challenged by a variety of groups and agencies to prevent a particular work from being read by the general public.[2] In recent years, it has become more common for those challenging the availability of a book to do so on a local level, targeting public libraries and school libraries. Many communities have a formal process by which a citizen may challenge the public availability of a work.

a reply to: theNLBS

It sort of makes a mockery of the US governments and law enforcement agencies standard fall back adage regarding all things surveillance.

"If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear"

Disclaimer: except the possibly of exposure to high doses of radiation resultant from us determining you have nothing to hide

Pfft, in my opinion, this is a clear assault on the civilian population by law enforcement, government sanctioned law enforcement.

originally posted by: slapjacks
a reply to: theNLBS

hide yo kids, hide yo wife. What happened to that beautiful thing that we all use to know as privacy?

1984 and the NSA happened.
Moral of the story don't trust the Feds or Government and don't move to or visit New York.

I covered about this in a thread last month finding it very concerning. Nice presentation. This deserves as much attention as it can get.

Testes. 1...2...3?!?

a reply to: theNLBS

I could imagine these vans are quite large. Creating rooms a couple of feet below street level is one way to defeat this surveillance. Another way is to construct rooms with lead walls, or other X-ray absorbing material.

To every measure there is a countermeasure.

Not to mention you can probably hear this "van" coming from quite a ways away.

Great presentation, Joe

What makes this all the more frustrating is the intentionally inconspicuous ''ordinary white van' façade. I live in an area that has had a few various drug-related crime busts, and see vans like this parked around the hood from time-to-time. They look blatantly out of place, and certainly far from 'ordinary' on this side of town (or anywhere, really - to me, any big-ass van lacking side-windows is immediately suspicious). I suppose a good rule of thumb would be to take precautions (say, put on that lead x-ray-proof-vest) whenever those ordinary vans without windows appear lurking out of place in one's neighborhood. Really, identifying the plate numbers and keeping that info handy might prove useful. In all instances, does not this constitute a violation of the 4th amendment?

a reply to: kissy princess

..big-ass van lacking side-windows is immediately suspicious...

These trucks need wide homogeneous surface as the inside is all covered by scintillation detector panels. If this system is similar to the smaller X-ray backscatter scanner for human, it use a "soft" X-Ray source in the range around 30KeV. I seriously doubt it would be very usefull at scanning past a concrete wall, as this wavelength is optimized for scatter from oxygen and concrete is full of it (water).

Good work NYPD.

When are you coming out with internal passports to get into NY.

And when will you add X-ray scanners to the subways.

I remember how when conspiracy theorists kept screaming about NWO and Orwell-like state in 90s everyone dismissed them as nuts. And said that people will revolt if any of such "unconstitutional" measures are employed.

Fast forward to 2015. America, land of no privacy, home of the Big Brother. Quite ironic that the very same country that shouts about democracy and freedom left and right happens to terrorize its citizens in a matrix-like web.

Mind you, it's not like there had to be any "evil master plan" as envisioned by conspiracy nuts of 90s. Fun part lies in that every government wants to extend its grip over people. Because government wants money and power and it wants control. Basically an extension and multiplication of human nature, personified in form of a legalized political system of whatever form.
Another fun fact is that as it is with a single man, once government gets hooked on power and money they only want more. And more. It's no big secret that it happened before, happens now and will happen again. All of this is obviously done under guise of safety of your own citizens, because it sounds good and noble. Also it guarantees public support and funding.
Now that entire ISIS mess and terrorist scares of the first decade of 00s are and were very useful. You need a big bad wolf to scare sheeple into submission. Even if that big bad wolf is your own creation.

It ain't X-rays. Where is the detector? It can only be in the van. So we are expected to believe they irradiate a target and record the returned scattering of X-rays which clearly have to reflect back to the van. Nice one......I don't think so.

It is more likely to be terahertz imaging. This is not harmful but more akin to the sci-fi x-ray specs. Yes you really can see through clothing with terahertz.