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originally posted by: diggindirt
a reply to: stevieray
Would you please show me the law that says being a dumbass is grounds for execution. In the past I've been very thankful that my stupid behavior or that of my loved ones and friends wasn't grounds for incarceration.
I realize that you are indeed a "true believer" in the myth that a cop never pulls a gun and shoots someone for no reason other than his/her own paranoia and terror. But I believe that so many of these cops are 'roided up that it happens quite often. Where you stick you head in the dirt and say "Never happens, cops are good." I see a big problem that needs to be addressed.
My suggested beginning point for dealing with the issue is to drug these cops each time they pull their weapons and threaten or shoot people. Let's at least try to find out what is messing with their brains and making them so terrified of unarmed citizens that they automatically start firing. These agencies can spend the money it takes to do the tests or continue to pay out millions of dollars to settle lawsuits caused by the 'roiders. As a taxpayer it seems to me that drug testing is the most cost effective means to begin to get a handle on the problem.
This guy was a piece of crap trouble maker who couldn't care less who he put in danger, what laws he broke, who he threatened with his jumping around ignoring common sense....so to hell with him. The lady cop probably had an exemplary record of serving others. Otherwise she wouldn't have been acquitted so easily and quickly. Don't tell me, lol, everybody on the jury was roided up and looking for murderers to help out.
originally posted by: diggindirt
She couldn't use the old, "He was coming right at me." defense since he was face down on the ground so she reverted to "I thought he MIGHT have a weapon."
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
Yeah but you also think Garner died of a heart attack..
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: alienjuggalo
Yeah but you also think Garner died of a heart attack..
Well he did... in the ambulance on the way to the hospital. He wasn't choked to death.
Why do you keep trying to change the subject? Did you see the guy reach into his jacket? How many times?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Your right it is all speculation....i suggest we get a tazer and shoot you in the back and then scream inaudible commands at you and see what kind of reaction we get ...are you up for the challenge ?
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Your right it is all speculation....i suggest we get a tazer and shoot you in the back and then scream inaudible commands at you and see what kind of reaction we get ...are you up for the challenge ?
Sounds like fun to me
All jokes aside, you're saying you did see him reach into his jacket and your explanation is that the electricity flowing through his body caused his arm to contort into a position that just made it look like he was reaching into his jacket... is this correct?
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: diggindirt
She couldn't use the old, "He was coming right at me." defense since he was face down on the ground so she reverted to "I thought he MIGHT have a weapon."
It sure looked like he was reaching for a gun to me.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
I could see flailing uncontrollably in pain......his hands moved around,toward his body..sure....
let me ask you a question....why would he be reaching into a pocket if he had no weapon ?....
originally posted by: stevieray
originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
originally posted by: Willtell
So you’re walking down the street and a cop says to you: Stop and you just so happen to have been going in your pocket for you're Iphone at that very second and the cop thinks you are going for a gun and he shoots you dead.
That cop in any state in this f____ up country will get off
Its happened 100’s of times I bet
Cops in America have James Bond Licenses: a legal license to kill
They won’t even convict them of manslaughter
If you are the unlucky citizen to be around at the time...too bad
And please don’t run or debate them for then you really are subject to judicial on the spot MURDER
Ummm...yeah! Everyone knows to keep their hands in sight and if in a car, don't go for the glove compartment until they ask you to.
haha, no, not everybody at ATS knows this. In fact, there's a boatload of angry posters here just chomping at the bit to scream their standard "PIGS !!" "KILLERS !!!" "EXECUTIONERS !!" at every idiot's self-caused shooting or arrest.
So no, they firmly believe that they have a right to do whatever the hell they feel like doing during a stop, and a cop has absolutely no right to tell them anything. They believe this, even if it's sort of hard to fathom from a sane perspective.
Built up anger about a life full of arrests, alienation, and stays at the hospital. It changes the outlook to one that does not even fit actual society. No wonder communism, atheism, and anarchy are so popular around here.
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
So runniing from the police is a crime that is now legally punishable by death?
It doesn't matter if he was guilty of traffic violations, or was a drug addict, or if he ran from the police.
None of those are crimes that warrant the death penalty.
I don't know why you think a cop doesn't have to be accountable for their actions, and that is okay for them to be above the law that they so viciously and carelessly walk all over.
originally posted by: diggindirt
An hysterical, screeching, desperate person with an active tazer shoots a man lying face down on the ground in the throes of a tazer attack---is just a LEO doing their job. Got that.
You are happy to see that happen because of what "might" have happened "if" that man on the ground had a weapon.
You are willing to see people die needlessly because of the "potential" for danger. Got that.
And to think that I never knew being paranoid and fearing police was a death penalty offense.
I thank you for educating us all with your view of how we should killed off legally by law enforcement.
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
I could see flailing uncontrollably in pain......his hands moved around,toward his body..sure....
Well I saw him getting tased, then submitting, and when she stopped shocking him he appeared to reach into his jacket where many people conceal a gun. Then she started shocking him again, and again he submitted, and as soon as she stopped shocking him, again he went for the same damn spot.
In fact, every time she stopped shocking him he looked like he was digging for a weapon instead of complying like he should've done.
let me ask you a question....why would he be reaching into a pocket if he had no weapon ?....
The fact that there was no gun is irrelevant to the cop's perspective in that moment.
originally posted by: diggindirt
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: diggindirt
She couldn't use the old, "He was coming right at me." defense since he was face down on the ground so she reverted to "I thought he MIGHT have a weapon."
It sure looked like he was reaching for a gun to me.
To me it looked like he was in the midst of a spasm resulting from being tazed. Looked to me like he was trying to get to the dohickies causing the pain and pluck them out. He was reacting like a normal human does when hit with a tazer. She was the one acting like an hysterical fool, continually tazing him then shooting him in the back. I'd say it was cruel and unusual. I wouldn't want it done to me.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: diggindirt
An hysterical, screeching, desperate person with an active tazer shoots a man lying face down on the ground in the throes of a tazer attack---is just a LEO doing their job. Got that.
You don't "got" anything, and you're twisting the meaning in order to paint me as a villain. Nice tactic, but it's dishonest.
You are happy to see that happen because of what "might" have happened "if" that man on the ground had a weapon.
Wrong.
You are willing to see people die needlessly because of the "potential" for danger. Got that.
Nope, you don't "got that" either.
And to think that I never knew being paranoid and fearing police was a death penalty offense.
It's not...it's irrational, but it's not illegal.
I thank you for educating us all with your view of how we should killed off legally by law enforcement.
You're not the smartest peanut in the turd, are you?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: Bone75
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Your right it is all speculation....i suggest we get a tazer and shoot you in the back and then scream inaudible commands at you and see what kind of reaction we get ...are you up for the challenge ?
Sounds like fun to me
All jokes aside, you're saying you did see him reach into his jacket and your explanation is that the electricity flowing through his body caused his arm to contort into a position that just made it look like he was reaching into his jacket... is this correct?
I could see flailing uncontrollably in pain......his hands moved around,toward his body..sure....let me ask you a question....why would he be reaching into a pocket if he had no weapon ?....