New Star Trek in Jan 2017

a reply to: eriktheawful

Yeehaw! Erik, you made my day with this news. Go CBS!

Don't let us down! We need something to challenge the original series and Next Generation. Those two are by far my favourites.

Make it so, CBS!

Hey, I liked Enterprise! A lot, actually. I thought it was a good pre-UFP "getting their space legs" theme, everyone starts somewhere and that was a good illustration of it IMO. TOS is what I cannot learn to like no matter what. Shatner is like the opposite of Midas to me,turns gold to dung.

I did a little nerd noise at this news. If CBS is truly wise, they'll expand to airing this on Netflix, too. They gotta be aware of that possible market reach.

I do think they messed up when they cancelled Enterprise, DS9 was excellent!
anybody remember the Animated Series ? I believe there were 15 episodes

a reply to: Revolution9

One thing I think is very important. That is to have MATURE actors. That is a secret ingredient. I thought the Next Generations was very good that way in their casting of Patrick Stewart as Captain. Also, having a complete diversity of ages with Wesley being the younger interest was very well done. The new Star Trek films were far too teeny bopper for me. Nowadays, characters can be two cardboard thin in depth. The plots need to explore the dimensions of the characters, how they react in situations, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. The viewer is then drawn into a relationship with the characters.

As someone who has had multiple cosplay uniforms, technical manuals, video games, and seen each episode of each series multiple times...

Ever since Gene died the world of Star Trek has taken a nose dive. Star Trek used to introduce social and ethical memes of the time, wrapped up in futuristic sci-fi for us to ponder upon. Issues like racism, sexism, imperialism -- all of these were explored.

Moral and ethical issues that faced us were mirrored through the adventures of the Enterprise(s) crews...and to some extent DS9 as well. Star Trek was more than just aliens, technology, space battles and love stories...it showed us how even in a seemingly magical future humanity still struggled with moral/ethical problems.

After watching the last two JJ Abrams movies, it seems like all of this is pretty much forgotten -- in exchange for flashy, action packed, popcorn munching-blockbuster theater sales.

As soon as I saw the intro to "Enterprise" I knew it wasn't going to last.

You don't have a Stark Trek show with a vocal/singing track for the opening music.

a reply to: eriktheawful

I just hope it isn't ruined by activist lefties with their pet causes. I don't need to see any thinly-disguised plots about transgender aliens who marry their children.

Typical dumb studio suits. "Hey! It's the 50th anniversary in 2016!!! Let's launch a new series in 2017!!!" Epic fail.

I just hope that when they say "contemporary themes" it isn't simply politics thinly veneered with sci-fi. There are ways to explore the themes without them being blatant. If we land on planets and fight the Tea Party, I'm out.

originally posted by: Nyiah
TOS is what I cannot learn to like no matter what. Shatner is like the opposite of Midas to me,turns gold to dung.

Well the original came out the same year I was born, so I wasn't watching it as it aired originally.

However, a few years later in syndication, I would see reruns of it in the late afternoons in the early 1970s as a kid.

There was no other Star Trek (except for the "Animated Series" that they did, heh), so I had nothing to compare it to. All I knew was: Kirk beat up the bad guys, Spock nerve pinched the crap out of people, and Scotty was always yelling that the engines were about to blow! Lot's of excitement fore 7/8 year old!

And to celebrate them coming out with a new series, here we go: The original video for The Firm's "Star Trekkin'"

This is great! I hated the whole fantasy, vampires, dragons, game of thrones.. X-files first then Star Trek, think to many escaped the fantasy universe..

Pokemon!!!

originally posted by: HighDesertPatriot
a reply to: eriktheawful

I just hope it isn't ruined by activist lefties with their pet causes. I don't need to see any thinly-disguised plots about transgender aliens who marry their children.

TNG already did episodes like that...

Background: The J'naii are a race of beings who do not have genders. Although they are genderless, some are born with the desire to be male or female. The J'naii who follow these desires are named outcasts and criminals, and even sick, and are put through treatment to "fix" or "cure" them.

Data even allowed the android he created to "choose his own gender".

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: nonspecific


I didn't like enterprise or voyager. Ds9 was much better than I expected it to be.

You didn't like voyager!!!



Voyager is my favoutrite, follwed by DS9.

It did take me awhile to get into next gen but i enjoyed it. I grew up in the voyager era though. Regular family viewing in my house.

Pretty much all sci fi.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

That theme song gets stuck in my head all the time,
And now i have read your post it has snuck back in...

" its been a long road, getting fron there to here..."

Heard about this earlier and got super excited. I am one of those people who enjoys all Star Trek. I am not picky. I enjoyed each series. They were all interesting in different ways. I even like all the movies, including nu-trek.

The press release says that this new series has nothing to do with the upcoming movie Star Trek Beyond. So I am hoping that means it is not in the nu-trek continuity but in the original prime continuity. I have my fingers crossed that it takes place after Deep Space Nine and Star Trek Nemesis. I really really hope they do not create a brand new third continuity.

After CBS split from Viacom. Paramount owns the movie rights. CBS owns the TV rights. And the prime continuity still sells well in merchandising, old Trek merchandising far outsells nu-trek merchandising, and the old shows still do big numbers on the various streaming services. All of that money goes to CBS not Paramount. Paramount only gets the merch and licensing money on nu-trek stuff. So I hope CBS realizes that, and continues the original timeline. As a fan, I know that is what I want.

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: Revolution9

One thing I think is very important. That is to have MATURE actors. That is a secret ingredient. I thought the Next Generations was very good that way in their casting of Patrick Stewart as Captain. Also, having a complete diversity of ages with Wesley being the younger interest was very well done. The new Star Trek films were far too teeny bopper for me. Nowadays, characters can be two cardboard thin in depth. The plots need to explore the dimensions of the characters, how they react in situations, their strengths and weaknesses, etc. The viewer is then drawn into a relationship with the characters.

Wesley being well done ?



You got to be the only one in history beside old gene that thinks thats!

a reply to: crazyewok

Will Wheaton is actually a fairly decent audiobook narrator. He did Ernest Cline's, "Ready Player One".

I've often wondered if someone like Wheaton (being a huge nerd) ever comes to ATS...we're kind of hard not to run into on the internet.

a reply to: crazyewok

Wesley was really only a crap character in the first season. Because people did not like that half the first season episodes ended with Wesley being the most important cast member and coming up with something at the last minute to save everyone. Once he was toned down and made less important. He was a pretty decent character.

His story arc actually got pretty interesting once he left the show as a main actor and only came on occasionally as a guest star. So to me, the problem was not Will Wheaton or the character of Wesley, but how the writers were using him.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

Dont get me wrong I have no problem with will as a actor it was how he was written I had a problem. I believe even he agreed his role in the first season or two was poorly written.

His role in the later season seasons was a lot better.

I'm honestly starting to wonder if the folks doing the Axanar flick have been having more that just good production luck with regards to CBS. They've been notorious for basically getting a nod of approval from CBS as far as not getting stuck arguing with them goes.

I can't say I'd be disappointed if the era surrounding Axanar was a series focus. That was a pretty busy period in lore.