The Denver Airport Murals: Are they depicting the world right now, or in the near future?

a reply to: Atsbhct

Perhaps. "Bowing down to the left" is a statement in and of itself though.

I noticed the Navy SEALs use a bowing eagle...to the right though.

SEAL Team Six

I'm going to have to look into this a bit further! My curiosity is piqued.

(BTW, the UN Meditation Room houses the reverse side of the Great Seal of the U.S.)


EDIT: From the Wiki link above:

"When SEAL Team Six was first created it was devoted exclusively to counter-terrorism with a worldwide maritime responsibility; its objectives typically included targets such as ships, oil rigs, naval bases, coastal embassies, and other civilian or military bases that were accessible from the sea or inland waterways.

On certain operations small teams from SEAL Team Six were tasked with covertly infiltrating international high risk areas in order to carry out reconnaissance or security assessments of U.S. military facilities and embassies; and to give advice on improvements in order to prevent casualties in an event of a terrorist attack.[citation needed]

Although the unit was created as a maritime counter-terrorism unit, it has become a multi-functional special operations unit with multiple roles that include high-risk personnel/hostage extractions. Such operations include the successful rescue of Jessica Buchanan and Poul Hagen Thisted, the attempted rescue of Linda Norgrove, the successful rescue of American doctor Dilip Joseph[39] and in 1991 the successful recovery of Haitian President Jean-Bertrand Aristide and his family during a coup that deposed him.

After SEAL Team Six was disbanded and renamed, the official mission of the currently operating Naval Special Warfare Development Group is to test, evaluate, and develop technology and maritime, ground, and airborne tactics applicable to Naval Special Warfare forces such as Navy SEALs; however, it is presumed this is a small part of the group's work assignment and more of a cover.

DEVGRU's full mission is classified but is thought to include pre-emptive, pro-active counter-terrorist operations, counter-proliferation (efforts to prevent the spread of both conventional weapons and weapons of mass destruction), as well as the elimination or recovery of high-value targets (HVTs) from unfriendly nations.[40][41] DEVGRU is one of a handful of U.S. Special Mission Units authorized to use pre-emptive actions against terrorists and their facilities.[42]

DEVGRU and the Army's Delta Force train and deploy together on counter-terrorist missions usually as part of a joint special operations task force (JSOTF)"

Ha! I'd have to say the military overlord with the eagle bowing down represents a member of the Naval Special Warfare Development Group -- only bowing down to the left, not right.

I liked old Stapleton International. They had a Learjet hanging in one of the concourses. It was the first airplane to land at Stapleton. Last time I flew into the new airport I stopped to look at the murals and they gave me the willies for some reason. They look like something Jackson Pollock would paint if he painted actual "scenes" and not the fractal laden drip splatter canvases.

originally posted by: Christosterone
Im glad they have a couple of Islamic state flags in the peace mosaic...
We all know how peaceful Islamo-fascism is....if you say it enough, it becomes true....right???

-Christosterone

You mean like they also have Israels and Americas flag in the same pic. Everyone knows how peace loving they are right?

a reply to: mysterioustranger

I am pretty sure they are still there. I know I saw 2 of them as recently as this past June (or at least sometime in the April to June timeframe... Life was a blur in there for me). I've seen them many times, so I didn't go out of my way to see if they were all still there or not, nor did I take note of any alterations. I might have to travel again in the next 3 months or so... If I go through DIA, I'll go check if they are there still.

a reply to: xenthuin

Even on the Wikipedia page, all it says about the murals is that a commission was given to the artist Leo Tanguma. Link. Pretty thin coverage for murals that are talked about so much.

a reply to: buster2010

I'm sincerely curious...have you ever been in an Islamo-fascist country?
How about a "liberal" Muslim-majority one?....like Dubai or pre-Arab-spring Egypt....
If so, where and when and what were your major takeaways which have led you to your current position as the resident ATSIslamic apologist...???

If you have not spent time in any then please don't bother responding as you have no context....

-Christosterone

a reply to: Christosterone

I'm sincerely curious...have you ever been in an Islamo-fascist country? How about a "liberal" Muslim-majority one?....like Dubai or pre-Arab-spring Egypt.

When I was in the military I went all around the world Egypt was full of nice people and I had no problems with anyone. Have you ever been to any of the nations you constantly whine about?

If so, where and when and what were your major takeaways which have led you to your current position as the resident ATSIslamic apologist.

So what problems did you have in those nations that led you to your current position as ATS Islamophobe?

"poorly hidden in a major airport?"

You'd think that airports would go out of their way to project calmness not calamity, to already stressed travellers, so the location of the murals is just as bazaar as their content. If Denver is the site of vast underground bomb shelters perhaps the murals are displayed for the benefit of our masters, not us, as they arrive to their final destination prior to WW3.

The devil is in the suitcase.

a reply to: Atsbhct

I take a different view on the murals. They're not predicting a sequence of events but rather they're predicting 4 possible futures, two positive and two negative to signify the different destinies we can choose.

In one mural we ruin nature which brings about a ruin in our cities.
In another we let hatred, violence, and war claim us and we degenerate into killing each other.
In another we reject negative impulses and come together for the betterment of all but choose technology over the world.
In the last we embrace multiculturalism and nature rejecting our cities are gone.

Given that DIA seems to be a compound, you can argue that it was built in order to continue what is to some a normal life while ignoring all of the possible futures of the outside world, a 5th choice if you will.

a reply to: Aazadan

There is clearly a socialist/labor element to the building of a new world. Swords are being refashioned into the tools of labor.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Aazadan

There is clearly a socialist/labor element to the building of a new world. Swords are being refashioned into the tools of labor.

There is, but I don't think it's anything sinister. In a globalized world that still has regional economies short of an economic breakthrough that has been kept secret for decades socialism is the preferred economic system (but not political).

I see the new world mural as happening at the same time as the military mural. Actually, I see them as all happening simultaneously. In one our weapons of war are being used to terrorize while in the other they are being transformed into tools of peace and prosperity. The choices we make today determine our future. Are we going to be ruled by a cruel dictator that kills millions, or is that dictator going to have been a never was and those millions instead go on to build a new world?

a reply to: buster2010

Egypt...perfect....we have common context.
Would you prefer we discuss Egypt pre-Arab-spring or post?

Specifically let's discuss the treatment of women as that is a great general marker (in my opinion) of a society's social evolutionary state....

What were your experiences with women's lives and outlooks?
Here is mine:
www.bbc.com...


Even putting aside the 99.3% who were sexually harassed(which can be argued as subjective by Islamic apologists), how do you feel about the genital mutilation?
This is a plague which is so overwhelming physicians from all over the world(mostly American) are mobilizing to care for these savagely abused women...ALL at the hands of Islamists....granted the Copts now only exist in small terrified communities besieged by Muslims at every turn so were they to be mutilating genitalia we probably wouldn't see it...

Sidenote(unrelated to Egypt): To me, the saddest of all tales remains the sole possession of the once mighty zarathustrans of Persia...theirs was/is a kind people long since bereft of hope as their religion has been the target of Muslim aggression since Mohamed crawled out of his cave and started talking to a magic dude who lives in the sky...

-Christosterone

a reply to: Aazadan
Have to disagree. The murals have an obvious sinister content. And the defeated military overlord is not the same one that is sweeping through the people creating refugees and destroying cities. He is is never depicted as defeated in the new world.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
a reply to: Aazadan
Have to disagree. The murals have an obvious sinister content. And the defeated military overlord is not the same one that is sweeping through the people creating refugees and destroying cities. He is is never depicted as defeated in the new world.

Obviously it wouldn't be precisely the same leader. In one possible future someone rises to prominence, in another possible future whoever rose to prominence wasn't able to accomplish the same thing which would likely be someone else. To take a WW2 analogy, if Hitler had never risen to power in the 20's, one of the much more competent people that ended up as his generals would have and there would have been a very different outcome to that war.

a reply to: xenthuin

They were there last October when I traveled through. I had never heard of them, and was taken aback by them. I stared at them for a while, letting my husband figure out the luggage. I doubt they will be painted over, they seem to be a big deal for DIA.

a reply to: chelsdh

Cool. I actually have travel through DIA scheduled for next week... It may end up being cancelled so I was waiting to post again until it actually happened. But if I do go, I'll double check, though I doubt they'll have painted over them in the past 2 months.

Thinking about it some more, I think the ones I saw were the one with the fire in the background and the one with all the people. I did not (at least not recently) see the one with the soldier with the gun and sword. Did you see that one, and if so where?

a reply to: xenthuin

That's what I thought too, that the more violent ones had been painted.

Let us know if your trip goes through.

a reply to: xenthuin
I did see that one. It was so bizarre, seeing something that can be so upsetting in an airport. I actually had never heard of the theories surrounding DIA till I passed through. I was googling the murals when we got to our hotel, and was really surprised!

a reply to: Atsbhct
a reply to: chelsdh

I did end up going on the trip and can confirm that the murals are still there.

These two are right next to each other, one hallway north of the southern most hallway that connects the terminal east baggage claim area to the central area where you go through security.




These two (I had actually forgotten about the fourth mural) are right next to each other on the opposite side: one hallway south of the northern most hallway that connects the terminal west baggage claim area to the central area where you go through security.

Fourth Mural - sorry for the link, I'm on mobile and can't get the upload to work.

This guy is still out where the road turns to go to the parking lots and the terminal. And his eyes still glow at night.