Australian Dad Defends Family With Bow & Arrow (Video)

Well he sells pills. And we have been smeared by association. We didnt even know his name until the police told us.

a reply to: BowManners

There's a facebook comment saying,

Bundaberg finally makes the news..

Had you been on the news or other media before I would expect it to be mentioned. Perhaps the other ATS member was simply mistaken and they'll come back and sort it out. It certainly feels very strange to me that an attempt should be made on ATS to portray you as frequent troublemakers well known to the Australian public. Very strange.

originally posted by: Kester

It'll be good to get the links so we can see. You did say,

Most Australians have watched or heard them, they've broadcast through as much media as they can for seven years. Should be easy to verify if true.

Yeah right, I`m supposed to LINK to current affairs shows or tv programs going back over the 7 years this nonsense has been going on.

Wake up.

As I said ask MsVen how many shows has this appeared on going back 7 years.

I`ve already asked to no reply.

a reply to: BowManners

It could be that when you look at his very vocal support network you're looking at a network of pill pushers/users.

a reply to: gps777

But you've said it. There must be some indication somewhere. It can't be well known but impossible to find.

originally posted by: BowManners
Well he sells pills. And we have been smeared by association. We didnt even know his name until the police told us.

I`m guessing this was to me Bowmanners, well he sells pills? doesn`t equate to your driveway is blocked by a mob of baseball bat pill popin junkies that won`t let you leave.

Its why I asked why isn`t there footage of this?

instead we get footage of some rowdy kids on push bikes and another playing with sticks or them chasing the postie?

The only serious footage is you swinging wildly with a pogo metal rod and you coming out with a bow and arrow? why??

I have yet to see anything where you or your families lives are in jeopardy, other than if you can equate Alex looking side ways toward your son to be their safety is at risk.

Not sure what others are seeing that isn`t there that I`m supposed to see Les.

Take my advice please, stop with the weapons, stop getting so heated, it will turn out very bad for you, if you can take a trip away for a weekend and breathe and chill.

a reply to: gps777

All I'm finding is this sort of thing.

Probably think they're famous now

I'm thinking you've sent me on a wild goose chase. There's nothing anywhere except you on ATS claiming that the Australian public have had this presented to them over several years. Seems like a bizarre claim to make if there's nothing to back it up. Almost like you have a personal interest in misrepresenting this. Have you?

a reply to: gps777

On top of the footage we have hundreds of facebook comments, (which I've been going through looking for a lead to confirm your claims), some from people involved or living very close, all giving a flimsy story, like yours, or a more consistent story about the fat geezer being a drugged up and childish bully. Friend of yours?

a reply to: gps777

When fat people throw their weight around, normal sized people have a right to use weapons to make up the weight difference. That's the way I play it. I'm familiar with the hurt, stupid look on the fat faces. They always think it's unfair. Tough luck.

a reply to: gps777

We have rented privately. It is not very stable, and way over inflated in order to pay someone else's mortgage. Remember, I don't believe in credit. You get a year lease at most - then it might renew .... if your lucky. There's not always long term accommodation available when you need it, so then it's a short-term lease, and your packing and moving again after three months. That's not a home.

I agree State housing is not ideal either, but it is where we are and more stable than private in our current situation. BTW We want to RETURN interstate. Back to our home. But If they had just let us be in our little remote outback town, none of this would have ever happened. "What ifs" tho ....

Home school IS cheaper. For the state. We get nothing extra to home school. Each Australian public student costs the govt approx. $10,000 a year. Figures work out that my entire family is cheaper on the tax payer pocket than most working families with two children, and certainly cheaper than a welfare family who send their children to public school. It's not an excuse, I'm just providing some perspective. I did not have children to send them out for someone else to raise. Children do not learn how to become adults from other children in the playground.

We did not "go to the media". The media woke up my entire household when they turned up on our doorstep without warning, the day after the attack. The reporter apparently already had our footage and the neighbours, because I never gave her anything. She wanted us to run around (on our bicycles thru the gauntlet) to help provide material for her story. I never did it. We told her our story when they came to our door, but her team chose to edit the material as expected.

Asking big bully boys to quit bullying your little girls is not provoking. Asking a parent to discipline their son for bashing my son in the mouth with a stick until he bled, is not provoking. Asking parents to supervise their children rioting in the streets is not provoking. Riding down the side of the road on your bicycle is not provoking. Having ice lobbed at you from a passing car, or a log dropped on your head by a big bearded kid loitering in the street .... that's provoking.

Telling a child to get off your property or to stop looking through your side windows, is not provoking. Asking a child not to film you in your back yard, is not provoking. Asking a big bearded kid not to follow you and your children to the park with a camera, is not provoking. Having a CCTV camera inside my home on my property (for the first time in 7 years) to capture all this crap, is not provoking or encroaching. It's protection. Trust me, I hate our CCTV just as much as any other privacy activist. I hate the fact that I need a camera pointing towards my neighbours front yard. But I don't follow them around with cameras.

Big bearded kid was finally given an encroachment warning on Tuesday 27th Oct 2015, after police found his footage of my family at the park on his mobile phone. I have CCTV video of the police at my home while I am reporting this weirdo "kid" for provoking me to run scared into my home. Just try and convince me these people aren't creepy!

As for Alex, I really never paid much attention to who he was until this weekend. I'm looking now though. And it was the police who told me his name. I remember once before he went us from the neighbour's yard because my children had poked their head out the front door. He had all the "crew" in there backing him up. I dont need anyone to tell me he makes up weird lies about my little girls, because I know the truth. All these parents letting their kids hang out with good ol' uncle Alex ....

We've had some irate father yelling at our front door accusing my little girls of stealing their plastic blowup kiddy pool. My girls hadnt pinched their precious pool. It had been blowing a gale all day because there was a cyclone off the coast. Our toys weren't blowing all over the neighbourhood because we had put them away. These people are not reasonable. They are inciting unreasonable reactions from me. I am not "pro-drugs" - I'm pro-common sense. Cannabis is a food, or haven't you caught up to 2015 yet?

We have not been "back to the media." We waited about 18 hours before we even looked at what we knew was happening on Chanel 7's facebook page. Alex, his friends, family, and enemies had been posting and tagging each other endlessly for hours. For the first time in 7 years we are finally learning all the names and faces of the perpetrators of these assaults. Maybe now we can start with those restraining orders you speak of. If only the cops could find that damn case number when we call or come into the station. It's very conveniently lost, non-existent, or unable to be accessed due to a computer glitch.

So yer, it was about 18 hours before we started posting anything.

I'm under no obligation to share more than I want to though. I've admitted we are not perfect, and even revealed some of that. I'm not sure what more of the forest you want me to see, while you persist on ignoring the leaves on the trees. But that's ok. My intention was never to please everyone. Thank you for your comments.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: gps777

When fat people throw their weight around, normal sized people have a right to use weapons to make up the weight difference. That's the way I play it. I'm familiar with the hurt, stupid look on the fat faces. They always think it's unfair. Tough luck.

Really, so when someone is even on the other side of a street, you think that's them throwing their weight around?

Can you at least show me some footage any footage! of this guy doing anything physical that you claim he is throwing his weight around because I have seen no such footage that even warrants bows and arrows and metal pipe weapons in defense, I did see this guy Alex in one vid ( which I think they have removed now ) on I guess his own property across the street, their camera was behind the front screen door and Les comes out screaming at him to get back inside his house and draws and points the bow and arrow at him?? and he leaves.

They`re both as bad as each other I think, but the serious footage is from Les.

I`m not saying this Alex isn`t an a hole, it clear he is, but show something that warrants Les`s responses, anything?

Kids on the street with sticks, chasing a postie, verbal crap that we don`t get to see what happened before hand, someone standing on the edge of the road filming this Alex and his family while they are on there own property.

And you can`t see any fault in this, its all Alex and his kids, not the both of the families who have and are at fault and contributing to it all.

Have fun.

a reply to: gps777

As I've already said, we've never been on TV as far as we are aware. Unless these shows you speak of were able to do a story about us without our knowledge or permission, then it was not us that you watched on TV.

Your wife recognises "all" of us from years ago, eh? "All" who exactly? Les and I? or is she talking about our kids as well? I know the public school system has been lacking for some time now, but think about the ages of my children and do some math, man.

a reply to: gps777



Yer. You guessed right I found this on his FB profile.

a reply to: gps777

You really have dropped yourself in it with your made up story. Better to back out now. You know the 'postie' was actually two pizza delivery men. What else is la la land?

a reply to: MsVen

This really stinks. Why would an ATS member tell such stories claiming the Australian public have heard all this over several years? I haven't come across something so desperate and obviously false here before. Somethings going on. Keep spreading the word. Your videos are crap but they show enough.

Are they saying this is some staged event? You cant make this # up. It happens all the time here and even worse. He is on antidepressants and this explains a lot because he has no care in the world of the stress he creates upon others and suffers no guilt at all, he thinks it's funny and my family has really suffered from this. I get it, he takes so many pills he doesnt feel a thing anymore.

a reply to: MsVen

If it makes you sleep better at night telling yourselves your saving tax payer dollars by being in state housing both on welfare so long as you home school. Heck the whole of Australia should do it imagine how rich a country we`d be.

I didn`t see you reply to me that you have never been on tv about this crap before, so I must be mistaken on that.

Can you put up the video the one of Les coming out your front door with the camera behind him, with that guy Alex on his lawn across the street and Les aim the bow and arrow at him telling him to get inside?

Do you or don`t you have any footage at all that shows this Alex throwing his weight around and warrants these weapons?

I don`t doubt things have happened off camera by Alex and his family but also your family which contribute to it, provoking making it worse.

I`m not sure the point Les is making by showing me pills, is it that he sells anti-depressants or takes them? he doesn`t come across as depressed so I guess he takes them? oodles of people do, they aren`t all lunatics. But maybe this medication doesn`t agree with him, I dunno.

a reply to: gps777

Nope Alex is never on his property when he decides he wants to start his slanging matches. No his house is not next door or across the road. No, that is not his family. Alex trains other people's children how to knock someone off as they are riding past on a bicycle. Alex approaches children from behind like a coward, and frightens them. Alex hits children when the child says "boo" straight to his face. In that propensity, I dont really care what there is footage of or what I can prove on video, I know Alex lies about my kids to stir trouble. And that is all that I need to know to want to stay well clear of him. As I said, so long as he stayed away from my family and property, I didn't care who he was before this past weekend .... but now I'm definitely looking.

I dont give a damn how nonphysical his anti-depressant addled brain makes him. He is an instigator of trouble, and uses his gang of friends to bully his agenda (whatever that may be).

I dont have the camera running 24/7. We only turn it on when something starts going down or we sniff something might be gonna happen. Alex starts his crap, or some kid will try something stupid, and if we are lucky we might get the camera on before more occurs - hence why there's only footage of Les picking his garbage bins up and asking Alex why he would do that, but no footage of Alex kicking the bins over. Turn the video up - Alex responds that he kicked the bins over because my girls were in his yard.

There's footage of big burly men fronting up on my property or at the exit to my driveway on the YT channel. They aren't over for a friendly visit. They were asked to leave. I can't make you see something you refuse to see. One minute you dont want me filming them, next you want more footage of them. This is the same sort of logic I face in this town almost everyday.

I've asked Alex why he would ... number 1, lie about my girls, and number 2, incite a huge scene over three little girls, he admitted to me, he did not even see in his yard.

My kids have only ever wanted to play outside and at the park in peace like all their children have had the right to do all these years. Don't lie to me, don't come and kick my bins over, or yell in my yard if you've got a complaint about my kids, and maybe you'll get someone who will respond calmly, rather than in fear. The way these people parent, teach, and demonstrate basic common universal human rights to their children, is very telling of their world experience.

originally posted by: gps777
a reply to: MsVen

I didn`t see you reply to me that you have never been on tv about this crap before, so I must be mistaken on that.

Can you put up the video the one of Les coming out your front door with the camera behind him, with that guy Alex on his lawn across the street and Les aim the bow and arrow at him telling him to get inside?

Do you or don`t you have any footage at all that shows this Alex throwing his weight around and warrants these weapons?

I don`t doubt things have happened off camera by Alex and his family but also your family which contribute to it, provoking making it worse.

I`m not sure the point Les is making by showing me pills, is it that he sells anti-depressants or takes them? he doesn`t come across as depressed so I guess he takes them? oodles of people do, they aren`t all lunatics. But maybe this medication doesn`t agree with him, I dunno.

I am 47yo and and play a pretty good guitar. Im not breaking my hands on this Junkies head to prove Im capable and nor would I try. Im well out of season for street fighting amd in no denial about this. But I seem to put up a frightful display when asshole starts jerking my chain as you can see.

To even assume youve seen us before on the media and post such claims without a single reference or source and that oodles of people take 20 pills before breakfast then I think ummm you need to recheck things a lot.

a reply to: Kester

cheers mate. Yeh, crap videos because we dont really want to be doing any of this I guess ....