Why are drugs illegal? You asked Google – here’s the answer

a reply to: crazyewok

Plus MDMA users are actually FUN to be around. They aren't intolerable assholes like drunk people are. They don't lounge around and sleep their high away like opiate addicts. They don't get itchy and super sensitive like coke users. Since the drug makes you happy and sociable it just makes you into a loving and outgoing person.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

fun to be around?

yea who does not like a good massage

I agree ALL drugs should be legalized.

Including all prescription drugs.

We should not be forced to see an MD and pay money
to get antibiotics when we need them, or to get asthma drugs, etc.

Let drug companies off the hook, have them include all side
effects in every package, make it buyer beware.
If someone takes a prescription drug for something it was not
intended for, that is on them, not the drug company.

ALL drugs should be over the counter, all ingredients listed,
all side effects listed, buyer beware, no lawsuits against companies
who clearly list all side effects and ingredients allowed.

This would drastically lower the cost of all drugs
by freeing people from paying $100 or more to an MD
to get a drug they know they need anyway, and lower
health care costs overall.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well when I was at uni I was freinds with a dutch exchange student.

The joke was if you go out for a saterday night in Arnhem in holland you would get lots of hugs and happy people, go out for a night down Canterbury in the UK and your likely to get knifed!

a reply to: grandmakdw

because drug interactions. outside of that, i agree.

but how easily confused is grandma? Would she remember her blood thinner could kill her if she took Biaxin for that upper respiratory infection?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Yea, I've heard of that horror substance. Just looking at what it does to people is disgusting... Yuck... And that started as an alternative to heroin.

So should Krokodil be legal too?

a reply to: JimNasium

Good Lord man....did you sample a few drugs before you wrote that post? lol Had a good chuckle.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: grandmakdw

because drug interactions. outside of that, i agree.

but how easily confused is grandma? Would she remember her blood thinner could kill her if she took Biaxin for that upper respiratory infection?

List the drug interactions clearly.

If one wants to make illegal drugs legal
and OTC.

Why not make all drugs legal.

How easily confused is someone high on currently illegal drugs, makes
the argument about grandma moot.

Personal responsibility.

If there needs to be a caveat that people should be over 18 or 21, as long
as the drugs are legal across the board. That is ok.

But an adult is an adult, there are plenty of stupid and moronic non-grannies
who will mix things up. That gets us back to a nation of nanny government
knows best - and making drugs illegal.

Currently many "drugs" are illegal without a prescription, and that is
the greater crime than marijuana being illegal.

Make ALL drugs legal to purchase and possess without a prescription
for those over 18 or 21.

originally posted by: grandmakdw
I agree ALL drugs should be legalized.

Including all prescription drugs.

We should not be forced to see an MD and pay money
to get antibiotics when we need them, or to get asthma drugs, etc.

Let drug companies off the hook, have them include all side
effects in every package, make it buyer beware.
If someone takes a prescription drug for something it was not
intended for, that is on them, not the drug company.

ALL drugs should be over the counter, all ingredients listed,
all side effects listed, buyer beware, no lawsuits against companies
who clearly list all side effects and ingredients allowed.

This would drastically lower the cost of all drugs
by freeing people from paying $100 or more to an MD
to get a drug they know they need anyway, and lower
health care costs overall.

Have you given this much thought?
What about the well-meaning-but-clueless mother who gives her kid the wrong meds for a sickness and the kid croaks?
Or a side effect causes the kid to get something else?
Or a disgruntled employee/spouse/friend decides that someone needs a good dose of *insert toxic drug name here* ?

Health care costs down? Try up..
Increased medical needs due to incorrect drug usage/unforeseen side effects/unforeseen consequences such as fatigue or being mentally impaired and being injured (falling on stairs, tripping, car crash, kitchen knife accident, etc).
I could name 100 more situations where "free for all prescription drugs" would increase health care costs.
Hell, imagine the sudden demand for certain drugs that were previously restricted...Do you think the drug companies will give it away? No, demand goes up, supply goes down, cost goes up.
Asthma? Do you know how complicated it is to balance the right meds? I do - my son struggled with it for years and several medicine combinations/doses to get it correct to the point where now he plays sports and rides his bike and he's VERY active with no difficulty and doesn't even need a rescue inhaler. So you propose we just let parents wing it? Because that's what's best right?
/rant

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Most drugs shouldn't be illegal...period. All it does is encourage criminal activity and risky behavior. While I think the usage of illicit substances is a poor life choice; I still support the rights of my fellow humans to make this choice.

There is no crime against person or property so there is no crime (in my world, anyway).

My solution to the drug problem....

Cannabis should be totally legal to grow and regulated for sale just like alcohol.

Stimulants (coke, MDMA, meth and speed ect..) should be freely sold in a mild liquid form at night clubs, then also prescribed to addicts in its pure form to treat addiction. All forms of opiates should also be allowed to be prescribed by doctors to treat addicts.

All hallucinogens should be legal to sell to people who have had a session with a specialist psychologist and deemed mentally competent. But, all hallucinogenic plants should be legal to grow without the need for a evaluation from a psychologists.

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

General crime rates would drop dramatically. Organized crime would cope a fatal blow, like its never seen. Then the criminal justice system would be completely free to start dealing with actual crimes... like theft, assault and domestic violence.

Society could become a more civilized place, overnight!

a reply to: stolencar18

Uh.. I'll NOT admit to facts not yet in evidence...

originally posted by: stolencar18

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Yea, I've heard of that horror substance. Just looking at what it does to people is disgusting... Yuck... And that started as an alternative to heroin.

So should Krokodil be legal too?

Yes.

People drank rubbing alcohol during prohibition and people choose to drink whiskey instead now because they have access to it despite its high cost.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Thanks for the history lesson, it is always interesting to know the reasons behind things like the war on drugs.

Considering Google also auto-completes the phrase "Why is there a dea ..." as "Why is there a dead Pakistani on my couch" you'll excuse me if I take their engine with a bit of a grain of salt.

originally posted by: SubaeruginosaSociety could become a more civilized place, overnight!

Most criminals are essentially in de facto cahoots with law enforcement as their monopolies are largely dependent upon the illegality of their trade.

For this reason, I try to keep an open mind and discourage the idea that such a move could be a panacea though it will help enormously and set proper precedents for the future.

Low expectations is what we need followed by an honest measure of success by everyone.

a reply to: greencmp

From what I know of it they did not knowingly drink rubbing alcohol. Before prohibition whiskey and rubbing alcohol was the same and distilled above 170. Once whiskey bottles became illegal then they figured out that household alcohol was the same as the whiskey and as soon as the feds found out they started distilling the alcohol at 160 and that makes lethal rubbing alcohol. Soon many people died and the leader of the prohibition movement stated that the dead knew that alcohol was illegal and deserved to die.


It reminds me of an unproven practice of the gov. sending in crop dusters into Mexican fields. As if the farmers would just say well we have to burn this crop now because it is poisoned. No they just pack it up the same and send it across.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: greencmp

From what I know of it they did not knowingly drink rubbing alcohol. Before prohibition whiskey and rubbing alcohol was the same and distilled above 170. Once whiskey bottles became illegal then they figured out that household alcohol was the same as the whiskey and as soon as the feds found out they started distilling the alcohol at 160 and that makes lethal rubbing alcohol. Soon many people died and the leader of the prohibition movement stated that the dead knew that alcohol was illegal and deserved to die.

That's true, most cases were poisonings but, there was the occasional Kitty Dukakis I'm sure.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Most drugs shouldn't be illegal...period. All it does is encourage criminal activity and risky behavior. While I think the usage of illicit substances is a poor life choice; I still support the rights of my fellow humans to make this choice.

There is no crime against person or property so there is no crime (in my world, anyway).

Exactly

I wouldn't use them myself

But if someone else wants to and they wont hurt me? Well why is it my buisness?

originally posted by: stolencar18

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Thecakeisalie

Yea, I've heard of that horror substance. Just looking at what it does to people is disgusting... Yuck... And that started as an alternative to heroin.

So should Krokodil be legal too?

Decriminalize it. I can't alter my rhetoric here. Though I have stated I want some drugs to remain illegal to sell. I'd rather we focus on helping these users get over their addictions then jailing them.