According to Netanyahu, Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews until a Palestinian told him to

Huh, so than was that Palestinians last name Rothchild?

originally posted by: gladtobehere
a reply to: Swills

See, Hitler wasnt a bad dude til this guy got a hold of him which means its now perfectly ok to kill ALL Palestinians!

But seriously, isnt there a picture of a Palestinian Moslem meeting with Hitler?

Does this mean that Hitler loved the Jews until this guy came along? Probably not.

Even though Hitler was Time magazine's man of the year, I doubt that these two were discussing the pleasantries of fishing. No, I think that they probably shared a common dislike (putting it mildly) for the Jews, especially the ones that were pouring into Palestine.

However, what Netanyahu failed to mention was the fact that there were Zionist Jews who did in fact conspire with Hitler, with the understanding/agreement that Palestine would become a homeland for the Jews.

There are some good resources on the topic but a couple of the best are:

The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine

as well as

51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis.

"What a tangled web we weave"...

And don't forget, the majority of Jews killed in the Holocaust were Haredi/Orthodox Jews. Haredi Jews have been against Zionism ever since Zionism was created, and were Zionism's biggest critics within Jewish communities before the Holocaust.

As for the OP, hopefully people will finally understand just how extreme Netanyahu is. His fearmongering is simply on another level. And actually, he's touching on something called "Holocaust theology". I won't ruin it for you all (because I don't care about it enough to explain it), but look into "Holocaust theology" if you get the time.

considerd that jerusalem was bought by the Rothchild's in 1929 the moefti of jerusalem was an partner of the family ofcourse...the whole territory was british by the time... explains an lot....!
Yes Hitler wanted an jewisch state in 1937.....the britisch blocked the plan.....! a reply to: Swills

well Hitlers mother worked as an maid of the rothchilds in venice....
we all know that "maid's "were also used for other thins than cleaning in that time....
so could there be some rotchild blood streaming through hiltler's vains... ?
would explaine an lot.....!a reply to: Rosinitiate

a reply to: ressiv

FYI :

DNA Tests Reveal Hitler's Jewish and African Roots

:-) thanks.... other there is rotchild blood.... ore the remains diddend belong to Hitler.. right?a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

a reply to: combatmaster

Palestinians have lived under Jewish rule since 1948 - that's 67 years of being treated like animals and having been bombed out of their areas and terrorised. Can you honestly name another culture that wouldn't retaliate against that treatment. Most of us have no idea unless you have been there and witnessed the treatment they live with every day of their lives, its worse than apartheid.

Netanhayoo obviously blames every Palestinian for the holocaust but we must be approaching a time when the numbers of Palestinian killed in Israel will outstrip the number of holocaust victims. Neither of these numbers can probably every be proved but the whole thing taking place in 2015 is astounding and tragic especially with all our calls for human rights and better societies.

Judaism (like Islam) is a very different culture to Christian culture obviously operating in Israel which never gets explained or exposed politically. A read through the Talmud will explain the Jewish religious teachings and how its OK to retaliate against any non-Jew for killing a Jew or causing them any harm. It also explains a very different cultural attitude to the rest of the world, whereby exploitation and abuse are OK religiously. Its something people don't understand but need to be aware of sadly. Now is obviously late but its time to learn and understand about this issue and Netanyahoo has highlighted the mental attitude that is a product of these teaching. Its important and fair to say though that fortunately not every Jewish person agrees with his interpretation whatsoever though and most have a better knowledge of history but like a lot of others he's not there to produce facts is he?

a reply to: Swills

According to Netanyahu, Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews until a Palestinian told him to - Jews always like to play victim and blame others for all the bad tings that happens to them.

a reply to: Swills

I did a little bit of research on this, didnt find much but I did find this:

Shamir proposes an alliance with the Nazis

"As late as 1941, the Zionist group LEHI, one of whose leaders, Yitzhak Shamir, was later to become a prime minister of Israel, approached the Nazis, using the name of its parent organization, the Irgun(NMO)...[The proposal stated:] 'The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and totalitarian Pd bound by a treaty with the German Reich would be in the interests of strengthening the future German nation of power in the Near East...The NMO in Palestine offers to take an active part in the war on Germany's side'...The Nazis rejected this proposal for an alliance because, it is reported, they considered LEHI's military power 'negligible.'" Allan Brownfield in "The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs," July/August 1998.

So it looks like the Palestinians were not the only ones approaching Hitler.

a reply to: ressiv

Zionism and the Third Reich

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.

"Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested." A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race."

SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively.

German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their" governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British control, not a sovereign Jewish state.

In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi) over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler's Germany.

a reply to: Shiloh7

Most of us have no idea unless you have been there and witnessed the treatment they live with every day of their lives, its worse than apartheid.

Exactly you are correct... most of you dont have any idea as you have never lived there! I HAVE lived there and i can tell you that the fact you are using the word 'apartheid' tells me you are talking out your a$$crack.

Netanhayoo obviously blames every Palestinian for the holocaust but we must be approaching a time when the numbers of Palestinian killed in Israel will outstrip the number of holocaust victims. Neither of these numbers can probably every be proved but the whole thing taking place in 2015 is astounding and tragic especially with all our calls for human rights and better societies.

Seriously? are you trying to be a joker? more people have died in syria in the last four years than in all of Israels wars combined!!! so you are sitting there comparing gaza to the 6mil who died in the holocaust? are you 12 years old or something? that sure would explain alot.

A read through the Talmud will explain the Jewish religious teachings and how its OK to retaliate against any non-Jew for killing a Jew or causing them any harm. It also explains a very different cultural attitude to the rest of the world, whereby exploitation and abuse are OK religiously. Its something people don't understand but need to be aware of sadly.

Wow... this disinfo is germany in the 1930's all over again! im not even gonna waste my energy on you as most ATS will probably be obliviously ignorant to anything i correct you on.

Your hate is evident with your illogical and mostly false accusations. Go live in Gaza, then go live in Israel.... then come back and tell me what you think! lol

a reply to: Swills

Typical Zionist, trying to make out that the holocaust only affected jews.

I take it the Palestinians must of told Hitler to kill communists and gypsies as well then? Then again I suppose mentioning communists and gypsies doesn't drum up any sympathy for Israel does it.

Why anyone is surprised by the tripe this man comes out with is beyond me. He is a very poor example of a human being, and that's all there is to say really.

a reply to: combatmaster

more people have died in syria in the last four years than in all of Israels wars combined!

What other nation was occupying Syria and killed these people? Also you couldn't be more wrong because Israel murders Palestinians whether they are at war or not.

so you are sitting there comparing gaza to the 6mil who died in the holocaust?

Funny for a person that has claimed to live there then you should know there is more to Palestine than just Gaza. Also you can drop the debunked mythical 6 million dead number there isn't even enough proof to show that even a million Jews died in the camps.

Wow... this disinfo is germany in the 1930's all over again! im not even gonna waste my energy on you as most ATS will probably be obliviously ignorant to anything i correct you on.

You can't correct him because what he said was true and you know it. The most important thing in the Talmud is revenge.

a reply to: Swills

But who told Netanyahu to kill the Palestinians?

I hate it when Binny spouts off crap like this. There is a direct correlation between Netanyahoo opening his mouth and the US treasury opening its coffers. The Israeli revenue service service strikes again...

a reply to: buster2010

Also you can drop the debunked mythical 6 million dead number there isn't even enough proof to show that even a million Jews died in the camps.

Th th that's all folks!

Anyone else have the feeling that he is playing some sort of joke, "let's see how much crazy # I can say without our allies turning on us". The man is gone off the deep end. But I suppose saying stupid things like this attract more attention on bibi the nutcase and less on his country's aparthid state

What Netenyahu said is actualy true.We do not learn very well of how evil Islam realy is.Hitler did not know what to do with all the jews.So He stuck them in concentration camps and let them starve.Hitler mass murdered all the jews at the very end of the war when He knew He was going to lose.

He talked to this Islam leader about what to do about the jews.Sickening stuff is showing its ugly head again.

The fact that Palestinians what to mass murder jews today should tell you the real truth.The land never was palestines land.The West Bank in reailty use to be Judea.The muslims will not stop until they destroy the world and will use politics and any means they can to learn how to defeat the world of freedom and democracy and people who realy love each other.

originally posted by: Jobeycool
What Netenyahu said is actualy true.We do not learn very well of how evil Islam realy is.Hitler did not know what to do with all the jews.So He stuck them in concentration camps and let them starve.Hitler mass murdered all the jews at the very end of the war when He knew He was going to lose.

He talked to this Islam leader about what to do about the jews.Sickening stuff is showing its ugly head again.

Who told you all of this, I could just as equally say a flying unicorn told Hitler to do it, throw up a link to some proof of you wanna be taken seriously.

a reply to: Swills

I'm no shrink, but this reeks of persecution complex.

Yes the jews had a hard time, no doubt about it. But I don't understand how a man that has been in power since I was a child distance himself from TPTB that gave his people a nation. Netanyahu is biting the hands that fed him.