By being anti Russia, people are pro ISIS in Syria

originally posted by: MrSpad
Well considering that the effect of the Russian air campaign has been a retreat by rebel forces to ISIS near Aleppo because the Russians have been bombing rebels and not ISIS, one could argue the exact opposite. The Russians do not care about ISIS, they are not a target because the for the most part other rebels are in between Assad and ISIS. Russia wants to carve out a small ethnic enclave that Assad can defend and keep on buying Russian weapons. If that means ISIS takes out the other rebels because the Russians have bombed them they do not care. Anymore than they cared when the did not try and stop ISIS largest group of foreign volunteers from leaving Russia and joining up.

But at some point Russia and Assad will have retaken the other terrorists terratory and then nothing will will be between Assad/Russia and at that point they will likely start pushing ISIS back.

It could be argued that Airstrikes without ground support is a waste of time and that Russia idea of coordinateing its bombings with ground troops is going to be far more effective at taken back land. Unfortunately other terrorist groups or "rebels " as you call them stand between Assad/Russia and ISIS and so they they have to move throw them if they are going to fight ISIS.

originally posted by: joemoe
a reply to: ScrewGmail

Neither are doing what they are doing for altruistic reasons. Both have something to gain or lose in this situation. The main thing is probably the gas pipeline to Europe. Russia wants to protect her monopoly. The US wants to topple Assad so that they can get a pipeline built through Syria to undercut Russia. There are no "Good Guys" in this situation. Tell me of a government nowadays that have the people's best interest in mind? The sooner we realize this the better.

Good point. Thus, "good guys" is very much a relative term. In this case, because they assist a legitimately elected government, the good guys are the Russians.

Because they have destroyed so much of the country in an illegitimate effort to overthrow the government, the "bad guys" are the US and Israel.

originally posted by: amicktd
Russia is the bad guys cause all they care about is their vodka.

Anyone who drinks vodka ... is a bad a$$ that's for sure.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
Logical fallacy fail. If A = B, A does not necessarily = C by default.

Sorry dude, but there's plenty of reasons to not want Russia or anybody else in Syria that have nothing to do with ISIS. There's plenty of reasons to think the current gambit isn't the right one to deal with Syria.

Your math fails, as does your logic.

Even a half tard, should realize by now what the US goal in the middle east is. They voice that they want peace in the region, and so forth, should be understood as rhetoric. Even by a retard. Even without a military education, one should be starting to get a "clue" by now ... no man with half a brain, thinks the US is doing mistakes, decade after decade. What has happened in the middle east, is exactly as they planned it.

The US has, since WWII always used the "devil" to get people into line. They accuse atrocities on individuals, not the people that committed them. In their minds, they are taking the head of a snake ... they don't care how much the snake twists around, afterwards. Or how much damage is done in it's death wake ... all they care about, is that without a head ... the middle east is a region in turmoil and endless disbutes, which will lead them nowhere. They will eventually fall into line, behind a few "states", namely Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Both are "ISLAMIC STATES". Try to put this, into your thick brains ... BOTH ARE ISLAMIC STATES.

In the US officials "minds", such a region would not be a threat to Israel ... at least, that is their "official" rhetoric. But "I", at least, actually think they're goal is quite the opposite. They intend to create the turmoil, and create a non-secular, islamic statehood in the middle east ... for the purpose of creating a complete anti christian/jewish sentiment in the region.

Remember, G.W. Bush old daddy was a nazi collaborist ... and Obama bin Ladin, is as we all know ... an old "black brotherhood" kinda guy.

I oppose them, because I have a gut feeling ... they're not trying to save Israel at all. That all their "failures" are intended failures.

That's what my gut tells me.

originally posted by: ScrewGmail
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Do people understand that by being Anti Russia in Syria, they are being pro ISIS.

There is tons of evidence by now that no real rebels exist, US spent 500 mil to train 5-6 guys. Everything EVERYTHING went to ISIS directly and indirectly.

Being pro US military in Middle East and pro NATO means exactly what it means

blood of innocent men women and children mean something to me that's for sure

I read recently that the US and its allies, has flown 700 missions against ISIS and achieved very little. Russia comes along and flies 6-7 missions and just about cleans them out. What does that say about US intentions?

Jimstone

a reply to: ScrewGmail

I've noticed a lot more accounts that might be paid Russian shills on this site.

I'm assuming there are other paid shills, so why wouldn't I expect Russia to do it too.