So it begins: German politician stabbed in the neck

a reply to: DeathSlayer

Yeah, No. CDU and SPD ruined the concept of Europa together in a big coalition. Discussions regarding political party's won't help a bit.

Jürgen Habermas’s verdict on the EU/Greece debt deal – full transcript

Slippery slope anyone?

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: asen_y2k

I don't know if there are mental health issues but that's a mental looking knife. Funny choice, unless that was what was at hand.

It's a hunting knife.

But the problem is Germany is that every city, town and village has to take a share of immigrants proportional to their population size, regardless of unemployment rates. City councils have had to redirect their budgets to build new shelters, sometimes even converting office blocks into dorms. So what are all those migrants going to do? They just hang around the streets day and night, even walking down the middle of the roads with no understanding of traffic safety. It's been compared to a zombie invasion. Residents find that they can't' have the same freedoms as they had before. Women and children are being told to cover up to avoid any "misunderstandings".

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: asen_y2k

I don't know if there are mental health issues but that's a mental looking knife. Funny choice, unless that was what was at hand.

It's a hunting knife.

But the problem is Germany is that every city, town and village has to take a share of immigrants proportional to their population size, regardless of unemployment rates. City councils have had to redirect their budgets to build new shelters, sometimes even converting office blocks into dorms. So what are all those migrants going to do? They just hang around the streets day and night, even walking down the middle of the roads with no understanding of traffic safety. It's been compared to a zombie invasion. Residents find that they can't' have the same freedoms as they had before. Women and children are being told to cover up to avoid any "misunderstandings".

a reply to: stormcell

But the problem is Germany is that every city, town and village has to take a share of immigrants proportional to their population size, regardless of unemployment rates

Yeah, right. Except it's complete Bollocks.

(1) The Länder shall be required to set up and maintain reception centres necessary to accommodate asylum applicants and to provide the necessary number of places in the reception centres for newly arrived asylum applicants per month allocated to them on the basis of their respective admission quotas.

(2) The Federal Ministry of the Interior or the authority designated by it shall inform the Länder each month of the number of new asylum applicants, the prospective trend and the prospective need for accommodation.

(3) Section 45 of Book Eight of the Social Code (Article 1 of the Act dated 26 June 1990, Federal Law Gazette I, p. 1163) shall not apply to reception centres.

www.gesetze-im-internet.de...

Every country has to take refugees according to the quotas. Not every single village, town or city. The country can decide how they do it and usually fail deliberately, thus we see crowded housings and exaggerated reports regarding this laughable Refugeecalypse.
Thanks to the loving austerity-cuts btw.!

a reply to: stormcell

So what are all those migrants going to do? They just hang around the streets day and night, even walking down the middle of the roads with no understanding of traffic safety. It's been compared to a zombie invasion. Residents find that they can't' have the same freedoms as they had before. Women and children are being told to cover up to avoid any "misunderstandings".

What sane person considers this healthy or right?

Many of these asylum seekers are completely out of their element. The people of their host country, their ways, their customs, are not just foreign to them, in many cases, they are offensive to them. It goes everything they have ever been taught and believe.

It is not a case of educating them, or even assimilating them to the ways of their host countries. A large number of them have been taught their whole lives, that our ways are the evil ways of Shaitan, that we are the seducers of mankind, we are enemies of Allah, that wish to lead them away from Allah, and into evil worldly lives.

Some even think they are providing you with a service to demand you give up your evil worldly ways, to stop your sins against Allah and accept Sharia as the true law of God. They think it is their duty and they are compelled to convert you. You can't change a person's belief system, with introduction classes.

They cannot understand something that they despise. How did anyone think encouraging large groups of people that hate everything about you, your laws, customs and ways, were they understand nothing about you, including your language, was a good idea?

Who couldn't see the what was going to happen? I can't believe even one person in the whole lot, was that stupid, so it leaves me with only one conclusion. The whole thing is a farce, a plan and a trap.

I think we need to start taking heed to the handwriting on the wall.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

What sane person considers this healthy or right?.

And which sane person considers this a plain fact?

You didn't just try to take thousands into collective punishment just because some behave like straight criminals, did you? Same old, same old. And what exactly did you expect, you can imagine why they left?

Just one question for you arm-chair demagogues:
has one of you seen an asylum-seeker housing from inside? No, not those images you joke - have you been there in person, done that curious looking, ya know.... speaking with people and stuff.

a reply to: asen_y2k

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originally posted by: PublicOpinion a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

What sane person considers this healthy or right?.

And which sane person considers this a plain fact?

You didn't just try to take thousands into collective punishment just because some behave like straight criminals, did you? Same old, same old. And what exactly did you expect, you can imagine why they left?

Just one question for you arm-chair demagogues:
has one of you seen an asylum-seeker housing from inside? No, not those images you joke - have you been there in person, done that curious looking, ya know.... speaking with people and stuff.

I have seen enough of these reports to accept that from where they are sitting, what they are saying is true. They are not speaking of thousands of innocent people that are not in their communities, they are talking about the people that are in their communities, and the difficulties they are facing in light of the situation.

Are they supposed to ignore the ones that are casing the problems and allow the situation to get worst? Why is it that you ignore the fact that these people are their host, and they are being forced to change their ways and customs to accommodate a group of people that have been placed in a situation, that many don't understand, and will not ever assimilate. What is right or fair about that?

As far as your view that all that accept there is problem that needs to be addressed, are demagogues and berate us for not going into their homes to have a look around, I will gladly listen to your view on why you think it is right, and look at your pictures of their homes, that you belittle us for not visiting. I am very willing to look and listen. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it.

I think both the asylum seekers and the people of the host countries are getting a raw deal that will not benefit either side.

Either no thought or planning went into this insane idea, or a hell of a lot of thought and planning went into it.

a reply to: stormcell

It's not a hunting knife. It's a flashy Bowie imitation. Probably very cheap, soft steel, won't take an edge. Hand guards that catch on clothing. Too heavy to use fast. No sensible hunting applications. It's the sort of junk kids buy off the internet. Hence I say odd choice.

Perhaps it was bought for looks from a store that sells BB guns and drug paraphernalia. It could be a more expensive version but everything else still applies. The back edge is designed for a particular purpose. Except the back edge is most likely even blunter than the main edge. It's a poor copy of the kind of fighting knife that evolved in New Orleans at the time of the sailing ships. A cut-down version of the short cutlasses used in confined spaces.

The most recent report says Henriette is in a stable condition. I believe that confirms my opinion of the knife used. Whoever chose that knife must have been mentally challenged in some way.

I frequently try to impress on women here, 'The young men who have abandoned their families, and left them behind in the terrible conditions they themselves are fleeing from, will have no respect for you. The young men you would like stayed behind to defend the women, children, old and infirm.'

Having said all that I suppose it's the mentally challenged with less restraint who'll act first. The next pro-hellhole politician to get knifed may find themselves being more efficiently disposed of.

End the wars. Don't spread them.

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Tensions will run higher and there will be more incidents like this?

A Nationalist perty will start gaining support and German's opinions will become more and more divided on the question of immigration?

It's inevitable isn't it?

Except this time they will not invade another country but will just exterminate the Immigrants and make it a pure german state. ANd ya know what? If they want to do so. let em. Long as they keep i t in their borders.

a reply to: yuppa

And we've been manoeuvred into this position by Globalists who want to see us fully occupied with infighting while they watch and laugh from their protected enclaves.

Why this modus operandi? I'll tell you. It's their viral hate that started to influence our subconsciousness. They teach it their kids. Stabbing was never considered cool. Guns are cool. It is their head cutting medieval fetish.

I mean... that guy has lost it. He has lost his control. His mind. Like in a fight - when you act according to your enemy's agression you have lost the control over the situation, you start act like him and lose it. Kind of a soccer fan psychosis. There's no easy way out of this. It's gonna be worse. People are not ready for it mentally. We should pick up the women and kids to the age of let's say 7 and keep the rest behind the borders and slowly assess case by case. It makes me really sad. When I see the refugees they seem to be nice people. Maybe even most of them. They come from hell so the hell comes with them, within them. And they will share it. People like to share.

a reply to: asen_y2k

First of all, she is NOT a member of Merkels party, she is an independent candidate, as your quote says.
If independent candidates become popular and it seems as they might have a chance, all those parties start their kiss ass actions. Means that they suddenly support an independent candidate to profit from this candidate, even if he is not in their party. Support from those parties means that their party will vote for the independent candidate( and send some cheques and gifts, the normal political thing as we know it

To the attack now. There you can see what happens if stupid or mentally ill people meet stupid racial rightwinger propaganda and are influenced by it.
On the other side you can see how the public opinion is shaped by the rulers.
At his attack he screamed something like "Messiahs, i am here to save you, what these people(politicians) do is wrong, i do this for all of my fellow citizens..."
So to scream "Messiahs" sounds to me like this man really has mental problems, more likely than he was a real right winger terrorist.
Around three hours after the first reports of the attack official opinion went away from a lunatic perpetrator to a rightwinger terrorist
Evidence for that should be that he said something like "Reker, Merkel and refugeeflood..." after the attack. But who really heared this, did he really say this? It´s not as i would not believe that he said this, but what if not?
And why almost no more word of the "Messiahs" he screamed to?

As we can read today in the Kölner Express(boulevard MSM), this guy is the prototype of the people that become rightwingers, hobbynazis now in germany.
He was unemployed, lived from Hartz4(social "welfare" money), no contact to family and no friends, a lone wolf behind his keyboard, surfing right winger propganda sites like "German Defense League". The typical dissatisfied, mentally deficient victim for nazipropaganda.
Afraid to loose the big nothing they own, but no intention to change something by themselves to switch the big nothing into a life. rather than that they blame the wrong people for their #ty life, wrong people like foreigners, strangers, refugees. Same sort of people is majority of the people that call themselves Pegida, over there in Dresden/Newgermany.

Or, like in this case, this nazi-propaganda meets mental unstable people that act like the "Messiahs" acted in Cologne right now. Afraid to lose the nothings they "own" because of strangers coming to our country, but afraid because they don´t care about their own sad lifes, not willing to change them to a better..
Now let´s see who profits, Cui bono?

Sure the rightwinger propagandists profit, laughing up one's sleeve, they can say now: Ha, look, as we say, thats what the people think... while their rabble-rousing caused this lunatics action.
Henriette Reker profits, because, as people are, they now think: Uuuh, this poor lady, almost died, i think i will vote her, she deserves it now...

But i am afraid, as we can see the at the spin doctoring of the MSM, that shaping of the public opinion away from a lunatic offender up to a naziterrorist that planned everything.
There are the terrorists again, that we all have to be secured from terrorizing all of us.
I bet the next days or weeks the calls will become louder for more "security", so the BigBrothers win again, profit from the attack!
Something happened that they can use for fearmongering again, to tell all of us: You are never secure, till WE(BigBrothers) see and an hear and read and save everything from all of you, every call, every mail, everything you say and do, and think, all that.
And people again will believe that their lifes are in danger, everytime, everywhere, 24/7, as we are told since 9/11...

And for the vote, i hope that Dr Marc Bennecke wins, from Die Partei(which is a satirical joke).
Search the web for him, he is well known worldwide as a forensic biologist.

Have a nice day altogether

originally posted by: Kestera reply to: yuppa

And we've been manoeuvred into this position by Globalists who want to see us fully occupied with infighting while they watch and laugh from their protected enclaves.

While I agree with you it still angers me to the point of wanting to scream.

How can we be so damn smart and so damn stupid at the same time? Then I remember it is pure conditioning. We hate to think of ourselves as mindless drones, mere robots carrying out the will and the plans of our controllers and masters, but here we are.

Free will. The ability to look at a problem and solve it with deductive reasoning. Both illusions. But that is quite alright when you realize that all of it is an illusion. Trying to explain it here would just cause a thread drift, so maybe I will start a thread to discuss this very complex issue, someday. Let me just say that while we are just puppets on a stage, mere data generating nodes, that work to the benefit of our masters, we too have the ability to go rogue. We are very much in tune with the new fad of the I this and that. We should heed the call and become like I robot. We should break from the programmed model they have constructed us into.

We see, and we realize that something is very wrong, yet we continue down the same path at full speed, ignoring all the, "Road Is Out Ahead!" signs. Be daring! Break that thin, stupid string of code, they have shackled you with. Even an elephant is smart enough to walk, or run away, when he wakes up the fact that it is mightier than a tiny piece of rope.

We are aware enough. We are smart enough. We can stop all of this in its tracks in less than a month. An engine is not going very far, for very long, if you shut off its fuel supply. It just becomes a useless pile of junk. We have the ability to stop all of this. We just don't have the will or the conviction. All we have in excess is fear.

How perfectly controlled we are. We refuse to protect ourselves because we are afraid of being eaten. Yet we bring all that we have as offerings to the beast that consumes us all to keep it alive, and walking gleefully into its belly. I agree that we have been lied to. We have been drugged. We have been brainwashed. We have been distracted. We are also very aware of all these things because our conditioning is so perfect and complete, that they don't have to go through the charades any more. They can even remove the heavy chains, because we have become so complacent, they are no longer necessary.

Why don't we do something different? Let's take back our planet and our humanity. Let's shock the hell out them. Let's shock ourselves.

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn

Scary but true.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

True. Just your big brother concerns seem a bit overestimated. Big brothers evidently slept and after they wake up they'll have maybe "as much as 1.5 million" things to watch instead of you. You should almost feel better day by day and worry if they are good enough.

originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn

I have seen enough of these reports to accept that from where they are sitting, what they are saying is true. They are not speaking of thousands of innocent people that are not in their communities, they are talking about the people that are in their communities, and the difficulties they are facing in light of the situation.

You say you've seen enough biased reports to re-affirm yours? There are so many out there, you can't possibly seen them all, can you?

Are they supposed to ignore the ones that are casing the problems and allow the situation to get worst? Why is it that you ignore the fact that these people are their host, and they are being forced to change their ways and customs to accommodate a group of people that have been placed in a situation, that many don't understand, and will not ever assimilate. What is right or fair about that?

What's fair about assimilation? That's Pegida-language straight from the Borgs, I would be slightly afraid when I would find myself writing such a generalizing piece to defend a certain paradigme.
You've got prejudices and share them with others? Thought so.

As far as your view that all that accept there is problem that needs to be addressed, are demagogues and berate us for not going into their homes to have a look around, I will gladly listen to your view on why you think it is right, and look at your pictures of their homes, that you belittle us for not visiting. I am very willing to look and listen. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it.

Pictures? You don't get it, do you?
Sorry but you don't address a thing while spreading lies, disinfo and fear. That's just part of the set-up you already managed to sense in all this.
Why did you stop to delve further into the topic then?

I think both the asylum seekers and the people of the host countries are getting a raw deal that will not benefit either side.
Either no thought or planning went into this insane idea, or a hell of a lot of thought and planning went into it.

I agree, but the way this failure went down is not without alternatives, we'll have to unf*ck the world. Those refugees are not different from us, believe it or not.
Don't be part of a system, which seperates us in our struggle and exploits weaknesses for profit.





a reply to: DerBeobachter

On the other side you can see how the public opinion is shaped by the rulers.

Damnd sure.

Die Partei is a good choice, cheers for you!

a reply to: mmilo3

It's because they won and are now on a rest period.

a reply to: Kester

Nah, Reefer Madness anyone?