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originally posted by: Prezbo369
originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: Prezbo369
I see this as ironic and just weird as when a white American tells immigrants of any kind to get out of the US....
I don't think it's the same thing. Sure we're immigrants as well, but the difference is that most Americans have many generations of family that have poured their hearts, souls and blood (especially blood) to build this country from scratch. We've suffered, starved and toiled on this land for hundreds of years without leaving during the tough times, so yeah, it's not the same. My Dad's family had to eat plain Lard to survive. Personally, I would take every person who came along, as long as they did it the right way. I guess we don't particularly care to have our borders invaded. JMO. LOVE to ALL
I'm sure the natives would've liked to have had the option to 'take every person who came along, as long as they did it the right way' and they 'don't particularly care to have our borders invaded' before the blankets and the holocaust....but the invading immigrants didn't allow them that luxury.
But to mention suffering is of particularly bad taste in this context.
originally posted by: Prezbo369
originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: Prezbo369
I see this as ironic and just weird as when a white American tells immigrants of any kind to get out of the US....
I don't think it's the same thing. Sure we're immigrants as well, but the difference is that most Americans have many generations of family that have poured their hearts, souls and blood (especially blood) to build this country from scratch. We've suffered, starved and toiled on this land for hundreds of years without leaving during the tough times, so yeah, it's not the same. My Dad's family had to eat plain Lard to survive. Personally, I would take every person who came along, as long as they did it the right way. I guess we don't particularly care to have our borders invaded. JMO. LOVE to ALL
I'm sure the natives would've liked to have had the option to 'take every person who came along, as long as they did it the right way' and they 'don't particularly care to have our borders invaded' before the blankets and the holocaust....but the invading immigrants didn't allow them that luxury.
But to mention suffering is of particularly bad taste in this context.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
Comparing modern day immigration, both legal and illegal, to hundreds of years ago in an area with no immigration laws is just a fail out of the gate.
I know it's hipster cool to pretend that all whites in America are born of illegal immigrants, but we aren't. Pretending the Native Americans had immigration laws that were trampled on is just plain fantasy.
originally posted by: yuppa
At th e time there were no laws regulating Immigration though.
Also most of the deaths on indians occurred BEFORE a US nation existed.
ALso There is evidence they ar e not so native as they would have you believe. Look up were th eamrican indians first to North america. and then did th enative americans wipe out another tribe that was here before them?
But to mention suffering is of particularly bad taste in this context.
originally posted by: Prezbo369
originally posted by: Shamrock6
Comparing modern day immigration, both legal and illegal, to hundreds of years ago in an area with no immigration laws is just a fail out of the gate.
If we're talking about both legal and illegal immigration (for some unknown reason), why would discussing the immigration into land without any such laws be a fail?....
I know it's hipster cool to pretend that all whites in America are born of illegal immigrants, but we aren't. Pretending the Native Americans had immigration laws that were trampled on is just plain fantasy.
Nobody has mentioned the legality of the immigration and subsequent holocaust by the white immigrants, because it's irrelevant. What is relevant is the morality or lack thereof on display as well as the naivety and ignorance of white Americans that complain about immigration.....
If you look past the rant she is saying to the other woman what white people used to say to Afro Caribbean people decades ago , "go back to your own country", racism is coulor blind , the fact she is a black woman verbally abusing an Muslim women is relevant.
Muslim isn't a race.
Racism isn't a crime, well not here in the USofA anyway
Parliament has passed legislation aimed at outlawing crime where the offender is motivated by hostility or hatred towards the victim's race or religious beliefs (actual or perceived).
www.cps.gov.uk...
originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: gortex
I question your motives for putting this video here. NO it is not your England. It is England for who ever is living here.
I'll be looking out for you. I would rather live with both those ladies than someone like you.
A 36-year-old was arrested on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence at her home in Willesden Green on Friday, the Met said.
She was taken into custody at a north London police station, the force said.
www.bbc.co.uk...
originally posted by: donktheclown
a reply to: Prezbo369
Your perception is in bad taste. There was nothing here except trees. WE did the rest.
On a personal note: I've done plenty of suffering as well. You see, protecting this country, with his life, was my Father. I never knew my Father. He was too busy protecting for 20 years. So don't tell me or mine about "bad taste," for mine is just one of untold millions of suffering stories. The Native Americans aren't the only to suffer. BTW, where are you from sport? Who did your people get their land from, huh?