EU bungs Turkey £2.2BILLION to keep migrants out of Europe – but ALL Turks welcome

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: grainofsand

US.

Then you have the same blood on your hands.
You ranted in another thread that EU folk have responsibility solely for being citizens of EU nations.
You are equally responsible then, maybe more so as a US citizen.

Holier than thou, sanctimonious, and rabidly criticising people as being responsible just for being citizens of EU nations.
You are a US citizen so shoulder exactly the same responsibility by your reasoning.

...I'm disappointed, was hoping you'd say Kasakstan or somewhere, but no, the US, you are as guilty as anyone else yet you criticise the EU.
Lame as #.

Nice. I'm not allowed to question my governments misdeeds because "I'm a citizen". Where you from? Nazi Germany?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: anxiouswens

We already have up to 500,000 a year entering Britain from the EU which is unsustainable.

Blow back's a bitch…

Don't worry, Syrian refugees will be returning home, Russia is dealing with the problem.

Most of the aren't Syrian.

Most of them are from failed western interventions. Syria is currently the hottest territorial conflict.

originally posted by: intrptr
Nice. I'm not allowed to question my governments misdeeds because "I'm a citizen". Where you from? Nazi Germany?

Oh I'm all for questioning governments, every time, but see that's the thing, in this and other threads you have only questioned EU governments, not the US.

You have been giving it large with lines like 'blow back is a bitch' and 'you EU citizens are to blame for voting your governments in' etc etc, and then it turns out you are from the US!
LOL!!! The US has led all the military meddling in the Middle East, every time! None of the wars would have happened without the US starting them, not one. EU nations could not have carried any of it out by themselves so I say to you that if you continue to say the citizens are to blame then as a US citizen you have more blood on your hands than any other nation.

So please do continue with your mocking style of debate (blow back is a bitch etc) and I throw back at you that you are a hypocrite because your nation has caused more tragedy in the ME than any other country. Start criticising your own government before laughing that refugees/migrants are over running Europe, none of it would have happened without the actions instigated by the US, none of it.

So yep, question governments every time, but don't smugly criticise EU governments while failing to remind members here that you are from the US.
I have asked you a few times in other threads where you are from and it has taken until this one before you admitted you are from the US. I understand why you didn't want to advertise that seeing as your nation instigated all the warfare over the last decade or two.

Plenty of blood on US hands if we follow your line of reasoning as you've posted many times, and in the same train of thought perhaps a good million or so refugees should be on planes to the US, considering your war mongering nation started it, and yes the UK followed, but if we look at it proportionately then the lions share of migrants should be in the US, not Europe.

I hope you will quit your smug, mocking, and sanctimonious preaching here now we all know you are from the US.
The nation which is arguably the biggest butcher in the Middle East.

a reply to: grainofsand

Oh I'm all for questioning governments, every time, but see that's the thing, in this and other threads you have only questioned EU governments, not the US.

You;re kidding right? Grainofsand, you been here long enough to know my content always questions US authority, first and foremost. They're usually behind most of the skullduggery in the world.

This whole rant on your part about my content is another useless bash to discredit someone because they disagreed with you.

Try again.

a reply to: intrptr

No, not really, you've been giving it large with childlike lines such as "Blow back is a bitch" to members from EU nations who are unhappy with the flood of refugees/migrants now coming from the Middle East.

Your nation started everything, and EU nations followed, but the US instigated it all and you preach to EU citizens that it's their fault.
I'm just calling you out on it as your sanctimonious style of debate has frankly worn a bit thin.

Yep, by your line of reasoning in this and other threads there should be a good million or so refugees/migrant on planes to the US. Your country is to blame for all of it.

a reply to: grainofsand

No, not really, you've been giving it large with childlike lines such as "Blow back is a bitch" to members from EU nations who are unhappy with the flood of refugees/migrants now coming from the Middle East.

"No, not really"…what?

EU nations are NATO, NATO is US military occupation of Europe. NATO (EU and US) has been bombing the s*** out of the ME, destroying whole nations in the process. So you are trying to deflect EU nations (NATO) responsibility for this?

Now as a result, witness the flood of refugees from war torn ME heading EU.

Blow back is a bitch.

PS, if you just need to see some evidence of EU member states complicity in NATO operations, thats one thing. Willful blindness is something else.

a reply to: intrptr

Easy to say "blow back is a bitch" when you are from a nation which is not experiencing any of the blow back, but instigated the whole mess in the first place.
More blood on US hands than the EU yet you smugly say blow back is a bitch.
Lame.

...I'm from a nation which is not experiencing any blow back as well because the UK border is still protected as we did not sign up to the open borders that the rest of Europe did. Being an island helps as well, but you don't see me smugly saying "blow back is a bitch" to EU members of ATS.
For that reason alone I think your attitude stinks.

Especially being from the Western nation which has instigated and caused more damage in the Middle East than any other. NONE of the wars over the last couple of decades would have involved any EU nation if the US had not started them.

So yep, plenty more blood on US hands but none of the 'blow back'.

a reply to: grainofsand

Blah blah, you're a member of NATO. Do carry on about the other nations that have more blood on their hands than you.

Lame conversation is right. You grill me with stupid questions about where I live, what I say on ATS, blame me for speaking up about war, call me lame and then turns out your from a NATO country, too? Sweet…

Double lame, laying blame, deflecting shame, useless game… see ya.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: grainofsand

Blah blah, you're a member of NATO. Do carry on about the other nations that have more blood on their hands than you.

Yep, much more blood on US hands than anyone else, especially because your nation started all the wars in the last couple of decades.

Lame conversation is right. You grill me with stupid questions about where I live, what I say on ATS, blame me for speaking up about war, call me lame and then turns out your from a NATO country, too? Sweet…

Nope. I criticised you for your smug comments such as 'blow back is a bitch' mocking those in the EU when you are from the nation which started it all. It has been a common theme with you lately, as well as making out that it is the fault of EU citizens, so it is completely relevant to know that you are from the biggest warmongering nation in the world.

Oh, and my location has been on my avatar/mini profile as long as I've been a member here.

Double lame, laying blame, deflecting shame, useless game… see ya.

Haha! Good poem
Yeah I'll lay blame when any hypocritical US citizen criticises people from the EU when your nation started all the wars.
There is far more blood on US hands than any other Western nation, you are fortunate to not suffer ANY of the 'blow back' with refugees/migrants, and you smugly mock in a sanctimonious style.
Yep, lame.