Self confessed 'greys' tried to steal me soul..?!

a reply to: Cricketine

At the risk of going off topic, what happened to you?

You mention there are similarities? What are/were they?
And how would you describe this soul drain?

a reply to: Iamnotadoctor

Ah yes....Bernard Schnitzel...B.S. personified.
Us ATS 'old timers' remember him well.
I first ran across B.S. in a thread about a 'Men in Black' video, I seem to recall.

a reply to: archongel

So what is the name of God you mentioned? PM the answer to me if you want.

Regards,

SK

a reply to: archongel

I have some small idea of what it was that happened.

Me too.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Did you repeat God's true name in English or in Hebrew?

Trick question. The true name of God is a sound, not a word, and it's essentially a phasing sound produced by a Doppler shift of two frequencies. The next time it rains, listen to the swooshing sound of a car as it passes by on the street. It's also the chromatic scale sung by Tuvan throat singers.


It's sometimes written as "YHWH," but that's just an approximation. It actually more closely sounds like "EEEEYYYYAAAAWWWWOO."

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Did you repeat God's true name in English or in Hebrew?

Trick question. The true name of God is a sound, not a word, and it's essentially a phasing sound produced by a Doppler shift of two frequencies. The next time it rains, listen to the swooshing sound of a car as it passes by on the street. It's also the chromatic scale sung by Tuvan throat singers.

It's sometimes written as "YHWH," but that's just an approximation. It actually more closely sounds like "EEEEYYYYAAAAWWWWOO."

I was referring to YHVH OR Y..H..V..H.. left to right in English: HVHY...or right to left in Hebrew: YHVH
It matters.

I'm a little confused. You believe one or two of them were greys? Like they can hide their appearance?

Also, you said some were demons? As in a human possessed by another being? Or by demons did you just mean very negative and nasty human beings that practice ritualistic and negative spiritual practices?

How did you come to understand their true nature? Was it just them telling you ? How can you trust any words from a group of wierdos like that?

I know you're asking for advice, and I'm not trying to analyze your story for questioning. I am just curious about the exact nature of these people you were hanging out with.

a reply to: archongel
It's an area of my life I hate to revisit but it comes back into my consciousness daily. But these people I had not thought about them until I read your post and felt......familiar.

During the second gathering I attended I began to feel ill so I left. They insisted I stay, I'll be fine, I'll regret leaving. But I did, I left and took the bus home. I never saw these people again. But my life changed. The similarities were what I spoke about in my post. The double speak, they were talking amongst me but I knew they were talking about me. Yet, I couldn't really follow their conversation. The had an air about them that they were working in unison. As if there was something agreed upon about me before my arrival. The feeling I had that I was chosen for the task at hand. They sang in an odd way, randomly. Like...harmonic vocalizing? The girl had a beautiful voice but I could not make out the words. Hauntingly beautiful.
To be honest, I thought they were going to gang rape me. There was a lot of touching...not sexual but more like to comfort me. Just odd.

I had always prided myself for being intelligent, always made the best out of bad situations. Had luck on my side. Was healthy and strong. A girl who had everything going for her. Independent with a good head on my shoulders.

The day after the gathering I met a man. Charmed by the man. Moved in with the man. Severely mentally and physically abused by the man for three years. Escaped from the man. Looking back, it was as if I was not myself when I met him. It was like I was suddenly an empty vessel, a ship without a crew to steer it to safety. Not my usual self.

After that escape, I became ill. Fluoroquinolone toxicity. My body felt as if it was dead. My spirit had been removed when I met the man, and then my body was destroyed when I left him.

So many negative things have happened in these past 15-16 years. I had a mental breakdown that lasted up until this last year. Medicated, suicidal, death all around me. Lost so many friends and relatives. Many near death accidents. Terrible nightmares. Huge monetary losses. Homelessness. Illness. Ruined relationships. Paranoia.

Something happened to me. I don't know what, but after that night I was no longer myself. I felt very empty and exposed. A blank slate. I would have never have accepted that bad mans invitation to go out with him. That was not me.

This past year I turned 42, the answer to life and the Universe and everything. I've become somewhat spiritual. I meditate. I am becoming in tune with my higher self. I can shield myself to outside negativity. I feel like I am becoming a person again.

Like I said, it was your post that made me remember these people. It just felt familiar. The negative turn my life took, I had never thought to associate it to the warning that I'd regret leaving the gathering. Maybe it was just coincidence.

didnt repeat it.

I think the way it works is they reduce you to a certain spiritual position, then simply by suggesting this word to you ( a curse word that
starts Allah-######something ) that engraves itself in your mind.

like if someone tells you not to think of a pink elephant.


And I agree with you, god doesnt have a name. But like how they say god is a vibration of 528hz,
I think that his name is a vibration. Like the sound of waves lapping in the sea, or the rustling of leaves.

Im not sure if the true sound of god can remove the curse. But the original hebrew texts do say the way to remove the curse is to read something in hebrew...

en.m.wikipedia.org...
Its mentioned in the torah but obviously it doesnt

a reply to: archongel

I had an approximately similar experience years ago on a smaller scale.

However, to the extent you are sincere you also might want to consult a mental health professional even if just for counseling. You're describing a highly subjective state of mind. People could be taking advantage of you; however there could be something else going on and the internet is not the best place to go for counsel about something like this. You need to find grounded people in real life.

a reply to: blueman12

Asin some call themselves greys. They refer to aliens as annunaki.
they say that theyre greys and are humans who somehow do a connection with annunaki and act as hosts. (So greys to them isnt aliens, its bloodlines capable of acting as hosts/proxies)

The TRUTH that I actually believe is theyre all humans. These stories about them being greys or demons or jinns etc is a trick to do with belief and perception.

Firstly they believe their own delusion, and therefore dont suffer any cognitive disonnance from worrying about "human emotions".

Secondly the people following them believe that too.
they WANT to believe theyre working for aliens so they can justify all the torturing/murders.
thirdly it acts as a buzzword so if the victims escape they run to the police saying "aliens tried to kill me"
therefore noone believes them
Immediate sectioning etc

its all psychological manipulation/smoke and mirrors.

and I welcome the questions. I want people to try and make sense of it, I couldnt have got this far by myself, thats why im here.
thanks

a reply to: archongel

My point, then, is that since you didn't vocalize the curse, you are not spelled. You have to use/sacrifice your own free will to accept the curse...and bring it into yourself.
It's the analogous difference between being raped and having consensual sex.

Again, these are just warped psychic bullies. They are not aliens, wizards...or demons. They are completely human.
The only power they possess over you is that which you allow them through your own free will.

They chose to torment you, because they saw you were vulnerable, needy and receptive...exactly how all bullies target their prey.

You are still needy and vulnerable, as posting this thread indicates.

Get yourself some professional counseling, pray and/or meditate, and ignore their taunts.
Build some self-confidence, and self-esteem.
I'm not trying to be harsh with you...I (and others here) are genuinely offering advice unconditionally and out of concern for your mental and spiritual welfare.

I got some really good advice years ago:

"If you really believe other people have the power to do this to you than you also have to believe you have the power to stop it."

For me that stopped what was going on in that case almost instantaneously. ( Or what I perceived was going on.)

a reply to: archongel

I just read your last post.
If you truly believe they have murdered anyone...you have a spiritual and legal obligation to report these people.
They need to be exposed and brought to justice.
All the more critical, if, as you say, you HONESTLY believe they will kill you before the year is out.
Otherwise, if this is all true, there will be others like you who may not be so fortunate as to break free.

Murder is not something to Bull Sh*t about here or anywhere else.
If you're an honest person...and truly believe all you've stated here...then expose them and report them names, dates, places...ALL evidence you've witnessed.

Do it here NOW...then take it to the authorities. Otherwise, don't waste anybody's time and genuine concern here.

Two things: Is this happening in rural Ohio/Pennsylvania/upstate New York?

Do you have family you could talk to about this?

touching can attach strings to you...not sure how it works, but you may want to consciously cut the strings off from each of these people and the 'bad man'.

I had a boss who would always sneak up and touch me on the back of the neck trying to implant a little hook and line in me...then I'd have to go through and cut it off everytime or I wouldn't feel right...


OP, suggest you do the same.

a reply to: archongel

Alright, you might not want to hear my response, but you asked for help, so I am offering the best advice I can. Know up front, if you don't already, that I am posting from a Christian perspective, and take that however you will.

I don't know your situation, beyond what you have posted. You could be, as far as I know, making this up, or have some mental issue, or a substance problem, or whatever, but I am going to advise based on this being a real problem, just as you describe it. i have experienced enough oddities to not automatically assume that someone is either imagining things or full of it. I do know that demons are real, and they have a lot of tricks and disguises to fool people.

How you got tangled up with this bunch almost doesn't matter. The only thing that might matter is if someone you know connected you with them, and if that's the case, you'd want to either warn or avoid that person, depending on the degree of their involvement. The important thing now is what to do, and not to do, next. Step one, no contact with any member of the group. None. Block their numbers if possible. Some cell providers, this is fairly easy. I know personally that Sprint has the feature. If blocking isn't possible, or doesn't work, get a new number. A new phone isn't a bad idea, either, since there are ways to track someone via phone, especially if there was any point in which someone could have gotten their hands on yours. Those steps are pretty easy. If they follow you, or actually stalk, document anything you can, because the authorities do pay attention to actual cases, and evidence is your friend. Being armed isn't a bad idea, either, and a good dog is a real treasure.

There are other things you need to do as well, to truly resolve this, but you have to want to do these things, and you have to mean it. Remember from what perspective I said I speak? Well, that's a key here. That's THE key here, really. These demons operate int he spiritual realm, and you have to be able to manage that. You simply, flat out cannot do so alone. No one can, no matter what they might think. People can be cautious, and not give invitations, or encourage, but if something really wants you, it will find a way to get through. They have, as I stated, a lot of ways to do this. Many disguises and "games", all of which deceive people, can be used. Hauntings, aliens, whatever. You need help. Fortunately, the help isn't hard to find at all. Yes, I am talking about God. Quite simply, any person who truly accepts Jesus as God and Savior has the ability, in His Name, and through His power, to resist, rebuke, and cast out these things. They are stronger than we are, but they are not stronger than He is. If we speak through His authority, we can protect ourselves from them. I once ordered a "ghost" out of the home of a friend, whom I was visiting. It stayed gone while I was there, though it did return later, because, though she knew exactly what I did, she didn't personally believe, so once I was gone, it returned.

I don't know what you believe, and what you believe is up to you. You can toss this aside and reject it if you like, or you can consider it and maybe see some help. All your decision. It's the best advice I have.

Note, though, that people who don't even believe have found relief from "alien abductions" by calling on the Name of Jesus. You can look the stuff up.

I really hope this helps you.

originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
Quite simply, any person who truly accepts Jesus as God and Savior has the ability, in His Name, and through His power, to resist, rebuke, and cast out these things.

There are other incantations and talismans that will also work -- King Solomon used a pentagram ring and a bag of water to control demons. Probably some other things, too. The idea is to break out of the "trance" that you're in and regain control over your own consciousness. The easiest way to do this is to say something or simply move your little finger. It's like regaining your motor functions after a dream, when your body limits movement to avoid injury. Why the demons use that particular kind of brainwave activity as a conduit is anybody's guess. Sympathetic quantum vibration? Who knows?

a reply to: IAMTAT

although morally I agree with you, your statement is flawed.
if it were just as simple as going to the police then these people wouldnt have been getting away with this the way they have done for so long...
theyre very skilled in psychological manipulation/control of victims. All the way down to gangstalking people who know to much..

its very easy for people with no experience of this sort of thing to say things like "just ignore them" or "goto the police" but these people have been getting away with this for years successfully.
Ive conveyed what I know honestly, not everything i know, but all i know how to explain.
I am willing to answer any questions. And actively do want your help.

But For you to cast aspersions on it as BS is your opinion. And although your entitled to it. Its a myopic one...

Great advice in the post just above this one.

For the sake of this thread, I'm going to continue along the lines that something traumatic actually DID happen to you.

Sorting through the mental and emotional and fantasy aspects of this story...Here is what I would do, if I was writing this thread and I was victimized in the manner you've described.

FIRST: I would stop being a victim.

I would go to the authorities and say that a CULT of people were harassing and threatening me (Notice I said "PEOPLE"...not aliens, not wizards and not demons).

You stated that:
"The TRUTH that I actually believe is they're all humans."

I would tell authorities that they are threatening to kill me...and they have told me they have murdered and tortured others...including my brother.

You stated that:
"I'm under no illusions that they're going to kill me.
I think they're either going to make it look like a traffic accident or make it look like suicide."

--and--

"they can justify all the torturing/murders."

You have stated that they said:
" they were the ones that killed my brother"

You have said:
"It was only when I heard one of them say to the other "when we kill him can I cut him first?"
even as I left someone said should they grab me, and thank god another one said no just let him go, we'll get him later. "

I would tell authorities that they are involved with terrorists and organized crime.

You have stated that:
"These guys openly work with terrorists and don't care who knows it. They're involved in smuggling and black market rackets. "


I would tell authorities that they are continuing to stalk, intimidate and harass me.

You have stated that:
"the worst part is that they're now gang-stalking me wherever I go. They keep texting me things about what i'm doing when they're supposedly 200 miles away"

I would show authorities these texts (if they really exist).

You have stated that:
"There's no denying i'm going to die before the end of the year.. the question is merely how... "

Then what the hell do you have to lose by going to the authorities? At least, if they do succeed in killing you, authorities will have your report on file and can use it to investigate and bring them to justice.

...and they can stop them from hurting anyone else.

All of this is what you should WANT to do...IF you've actually been serious about anything you've said here.

If you've been lying, then you're just a sad liar.

If you've really been a victim...and do nothing to fight back and prevent this from happening to others...then you're a coward and will always be a victim.