Former George Bush Chief Economist Says 911 Was An Inside Job

a reply to: madenusa

The political engines and major events in today's world,this idea of a governmental well-planned and perfectly pulled off "inside job" is not outlandish....

Of course it is! After all, the United States didn't go to war when terrorist bombed WTC 1 in 1993 where one of the terrorist fled to Iraq. The United States didn't go to way when the USS Cole bombed and in fact, the United States didn't even go to war when terrorist bombed our Embassies in Kenya and in Tanzania.

No steel framed building had ever collapsed from fire damage before in history.

Now, for an update.

Kader Toy Factory Fire

At about 4pm on May 10th, 1993, a small fire was discovered on the first floor of part of the E-shaped building. Workers were instructed to keep working as the fire was thought to be minor. The fire alarm in this building did not sound.

The building was reinforced with un-insulated steel girders which quickly weakened and collapsed. This part of the building was dedicated to the storage of finished products and the fire spread quickly. Other parts of the factory were full of raw materials which also burnt very fast... Fire-fighters arrived at the factory at about 4:40pm, to find Building One about to collapse.

The Kader buildings,...collapsed relatively early in the fire because their structural steel supports lacked the fireproofing that would have allowed them to maintain their strength when exposed to high temperatures.

A post-fire review of the debris at the Kader site showed no indication that any of the steel members had been fireproofed.

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Private jet crashes into hangar at California airport, sparks inferno

A multimillion dollar private jet crashed into a (steel frame) hangar at a California airport creating an “unsurvivable” inferno on the ground, a fire official said. Santa Monica Fire Department Captain John Nevandro told NBC Los Angeles that the crash was "unsurvivable.” He added: "The building actually collapsed and wrapped itself around the plane."

One hangar collapsed, its steel trusses crossing over the plane and the sheet metal shell wrapping around it, McKenny said. Two other hangars received minor damage.

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I might add that nations around the world were pointing their fingers at Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, not at the Bush Administration.

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a reply to: pteridine

First, you wanted to discuss WTC 7 but now you want the towers. OK, the Towers it is. What non-conventional means were used? Death rays from space? Hack saws? Sears socket sets? Die grinders? Magic?

You changed the conversation, not me, I guess when I said you were sky guy two I was correct , you are a troll, I said from the start I did not know how it was done.. as for the rest I don't know what your talking about.

As for what I have been posting you have reacted in the emotional manor, in other words cognitive dissonance.. so very sad. I thought there was hope for you, sorry I fell for the bait..

a reply to: wildb

You've claimed that explosives were used to bring down WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7, now explain the process on how it was done.

originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

You've claimed that explosives were used to bring down WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7, now explain the process on how it was done.

Where have I heard that, feeling empowered now that you found a buddy, now your asking questions I already said I can't answer pages ago, nice try, the facts have not changed.. The OS does not hold up.. and you cannot prove it true when all the evidence points elsewhere.

a reply to: madenusa

The political engines and major events in today's world,this idea of a governmental well-planned and perfectly pulled off "inside job" is not outlandish

No it is not, don't let sky disinfo guy fool you..

a reply to: wildb

Since you have failed to provide those video time lines that I have been requesting from you where you've claimed, explosions were heard, perhaps, you can explain how a team of workers had somehow gained access to the steel structures of the WTC buildings without generating waste debris and silently pre-weakened the steel structures and then, firmly placed explosives under the eyes of thousands of workers who had filled those buildings; explosives that somehow withstood impacts that were violent enough to dislodge fire protection from steel columns, as noted by the fact there were no secondary explosions.

Then, you can explain why no demolition explosions were heard as the WTC buildings collapse, and why seismic monitors did not detect demolition explosions and why no evidence of explosives were found within the rubble of the WTC buildings.

After answering those questions you can explain why there are claims the WTC buildings fell at free fall speed, debris are seen outpacing the collapse of the WTC buildings. Afterward, you can explain why there are claims that the WTC buildings fell within their footprints when debris from their collapse had seriously damaged surrounding buildings, which is not indicative of the way controlled demolitions are carried out.

How about explaining why demolition explosions do not fling steel columns 600 feet away from a building?

a reply to: wildb

o it is not, don't let sky disinfo guy fool you..

You must know by now that i have challenged 9/11 conspiracy theorist to prove me wrong with facts and evidence, and what I got in return were hoaxed and debunked videos and doctored photos in addition to flawed references from debunked websites that are well-known for spewing disinformation and in some cases, outright lies.

Now, where's you evidence that 9/11 was an inside job when countries around the world had warned the United States that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would carry out the attack? I might further add, an attack that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would would later admit their responsibility.
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a reply to: skyeagle409

After answering those questions you can explain why there are claims the WTC buildings fell at free fall speed

I already said there were not, as for the rest of you post, its bull , your grasping for straws..

How about explaining why demolition explosions do not fling steel columns 600 feet away from a building?

But they did, however another stupid statement. Its nice when I frustrate you, your own post are supporting me, I'm glad you have not figured that out yet..

a reply to: wildb

In other words, you are empty-handed in the form of evidence that refutes my case points.

a reply to: skyeagle409www.youtube.com...


INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media's propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001
It’s unfortunate that Americans have become programmed to mock anyone who has an opinion opposing the 9/11 official story

a reply to: skyeagle409

Npw, where's you evidence that 9/11 was an inside job when countries around the world had warned the United States that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would carry out the attack? I might further add, an attack that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda would would later admit.

Well there's my evidence right there, thanks for pointing that out, very helpful, much thanks..

originally posted by: wildb
a reply to: pteridine

First, you wanted to discuss WTC 7 but now you want the towers. OK, the Towers it is. What non-conventional means were used? Death rays from space? Hack saws? Sears socket sets? Die grinders? Magic?

You changed the conversation, not me, I guess when I said you were sky guy two I was correct , you are a troll, I said from the start I did not know how it was done.. as for the rest I don't know what your talking about.

As for what I have been posting you have reacted in the emotional manor, in other words cognitive dissonance.. so very sad. I thought there was hope for you, sorry I fell for the bait..

None of my responses was in an emotional MANNER. Of course you don't know what I am talking about, I am talking about building demolition.
You still have the opportunity to postulate as many possibilities as you wish for discussion, less the evergreen "unconventional methods" that are the mainstay of the completely ignorant. Likely, you are weaseling because all you can do is to say "unconventional methods', i.e., those that leave no trace and those that you have no clue about. When your Christmas break is over and you are back at school, you can look back on this discourse as an educational experience.

originally posted by: madenusa
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INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media's propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001

Looks like good info, I will have to check it out, seems to me you have a clue,, keep up the good work.

originally posted by: wildb

originally posted by: madenusa
a reply to: skyeagle409www.youtube.com...


INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media's propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001

Looks like good info, I will have to check it out, seems to me you have a clue,, keep up the good work.

I tell an American that I think 9/11 was an inside job, they say, “Where’s your tinfoil hat?”a real sense of injustice

a reply to: pteridine

None of my responses was in an emotional MANNER. Of course you don't know what I am talking about, I am talking about building demolition. You still have the opportunity to postulate as many possibilities as you wish for discussion, less the evergreen "unconventional methods" that are the mainstay of the completely ignorant. Likely, you are weaseling because all you can do is to say "unconventional methods', i.e., those that leave no trace and those that you have no clue about. When your Christmas break is over and you are back at school, you can look back on this discourse as an educational experience.

Sure it is and still it is, your acting as a troll so you must be, I have already stated my position, twist and turn, common man.. go ahead and join the sky club.. at least you will be honest..

originally posted by: wildb

originally posted by: madenusa
a reply to: skyeagle409www.youtube.com...


INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media's propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001

Looks like good info, I will have to check it out, seems to me you have a clue,, keep up the good work.

Are you running away, wildb or do you intend to postulate methods of demolition?

a reply to: madenusa

Just to let you know that your video somehow reminds me of a video that some 9/11 conspiracy theorist have used against me during their argument that explosives were used to bring down WTC 7. After I exposed the video as a hoax, they did a little back-stepping.

In addition, there are those who have been planting disinformation in order to discredit the truth movement and that campaign has been successful judging by the fact the number of those hoaxed videos and flawed references that have been used by 9/11 conspiracy theorist.

Case in point:

Gordon Duff of Veterans Today Admits To Writing 40% False Information

Gordon Duff of Veterans Today in his own words. He admits To Writing 40% False Information and that at least 30% of the information on Veterans Today is false as well.

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For years, various disinformation agents have been attempting to sabotage the 9/11 truth movement with claims that "mini-nukes" or "nuclear devices" were used to demolish the World Trade Center.


Disinformation Killed 9/11 “Truth”

By 2009, the 9/11 “Truth” Movement was so inundated with disinformation that it had become a laughingstock. The easily-discredited claims (lies) contaminated the greater issue and soiled dissenters across the board. “Turd blossom” was a Karl Rove phrase that could describe what the movement had devolved into. The media, whether corporate or foundation-funded, could find people ranting about “the Jews” or the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the missiles, holograms, mini-nukes or space beam weapons vaporizing the Twin Towers.

Many trolls, and some public personalities, appeared to be professional disinformation artists hard at work concocting and posting this crap online, which others repeated to their own detriment. One cannot easily prove that a specific person is a paid shill, a disinformation agent, a cyber agent provocateur, but be assured they are out there, and “out there.”

www.911truth.org...

originally posted by: madenusa

originally posted by: wildb

originally posted by: madenusa
a reply to: skyeagle409www.youtube.com...


INCONTROVERTIBLE is the first and only feature length documentary we have which portrays the frank and candid views of Police Officers, Firefighters and Soldiers as they express their grave concerns about the official explanation for the events of 9/11. The film is intended to act as a practical aid in combating the mainstream media's propaganda and outright lies concerning the attacks on September 11th 2001

Looks like good info, I will have to check it out, seems to me you have a clue,, keep up the good work.

I tell an American that I think 9/11 was an inside job, they say, “Where’s your tinfoil hat?”a real sense of injustice

I like my tin foil hat...I'll have to find that study that says CT'ers are smarter then the rest and have great critical thinking skills, yeah I am proud..

a reply to: madenusa

I tell an American that I think 9/11 was an inside job, they say, “Where’s your tinfoil hat?”a real sense of injustice

Why the "tin foil hat?"

We can take a look here and tell an American, how many of these warnings were pointing fingers at the Bush Administration as far as carrying out the 9/11 attack?

WARNINGS THAT THE DANGER WOULD COME FROM THE AIR

BRITAIN, WARNING #1: Al-Qaeda is planning to use aircraft in "unconventional ways", "possibly as flying bombs"

the British intelligence agency, gives a secret report to liaison staff at the US embassy in London. The reports states that al-Qaeda has plans to use "commercial aircraft" in "unconventional ways", "possibly as flying bombs." [Sunday Times, 6/9/02]

BRITAIN, WARNING #3: An Al-Qaeda attack will involve multiple hijackings

Early August 2001 ©: Britain gives the US another warning about an al-Qaeda attack. The previous British warning (see July 16, 2001) was vague as to method, but this warning specifies multiple airplane hijackings. This warning is included in Bush's briefing on August 6. [Sunday Herald, 5/19/02]

CAYMAN ISLANDS, WARNING #2: Three al-Qaeda agents are part of a plot "organizing a major terrorist act against the US via an airline or airlines"

August 29, 2001: Three men from either Pakistan or Afghanistan living in the Cayman Islands are briefly arrested in June 2001 for discussing hijacking attacks in New York City (see June 4, 2001). On this day, a Cayman Islands radio station receives an unsigned letter claiming these same three men are agents of bin Laden. The anonymous author warns that they "are organizing a major terrorist act against the US via an airline or airlines." The letter is forwarded to a Cayman government official but no action is taken until after 9/11 and it isn't known when the US is informed. Many criminals and/or businesses use the Cayman Islands as a safe, no tax, no questions asked haven to keep their money. The author of the letter meets with the FBI shortly after 9/11, and claims his information was a "premonition of sorts." The three men are later arrested. Its unclear what has happened to them since their arrest. [Miami Herald, 9/20/01, Los Angeles Times, 9/20/01, MSNBC, 9/23/01] FTW

EGYPT, WARNING #1: An undercover agent learns 20 al-Qaeda agents are in the US, four have received flight training

Late July 2001 (D): CBS later has a brief mention in a long story on another topic: "Just days after Atta return[s] to the US from Spain, Egyptian intelligence in Cairo says it received a report from one of its operatives in Afghanistan that 20 al-Qaeda members had slipped into the US and four of them had received flight training on Cessnas. To the Egyptians, pilots of small planes didn't sound terribly alarming, but they [pass] on the message to the CIA anyway, fully expecting Washington to request information. The request never [comes]." [CBS, 10/9/02] This appears to be one of several accurate Egyptian warnings based on informants (see June 13, 2001 and August 30, 2001). Could Egypt have known the names of some or all of the hijackers? Given FBI agent Ken Williams' memo about flight schools a short time before (see July 10, 2001), shouldn't the US have investigated this closely instead of completely ignoring it?

GERMANY: Terrorists will use airplanes as weapons to attack "American and Israeli symbols"

June 2001: German intelligence warns the CIA, Britain's MI6, and Israel's Mossad that Middle Eastern terrorists are planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack "American and Israeli symbols, which stand out." A later article quotes unnamed German intelligence sources who state the information was coming from Echelon surveillance technology, and that British intelligence had access to the same warnings. However, there were other informational sources, including specific information and hints given to, but not reported by, Western and Near Eastern news media six months before 9/11. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01, Fox News, 5/17/02] FTW

ITALY: Muslims warn of an attack on the US and Britain using hijacked airplanes as weapons

September 7, 2001: Father Jean-Marie Benjamin is told at a wedding in Todi, Italy of a plot to attack the US and Britain using hijacked airplanes as weapons. He isn't told time or place specifics. He immediately passes what he knows to a judge and several politicians. He states: "Although I am friendly with many Muslims, I wondered why they were telling me, specifically. I felt it my duty to inform the Italian government." Benjamin has been called "one of the West's most knowledgeable experts on the Muslim world." Two days after 9/11, he meets with the Italian Foreign Minister on this topic. He says he learned the attack on Britain failed at the last minute. [Zenit, 9/16/01] He has not revealed who told him this information, but could it have been a member of the al-Qaeda cell in Milan (see August 12, 2000 and January 24, 2001), which appears to have helped with the 9/11 attacks?

JORDAN: A major attack using aircraft is planned inside the US

Late summer 2001: Jordanian intelligence (the GID) makes a communications intercept deemed so important that King Abdullah's men relay it to Washington, probably through the CIA station in Amman. To make doubly sure the message gets through it is passed through an Arab intermediary to a German intelligence agent. The message states that a major attack, code named The Big Wedding, is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. "When it became clear that the information was embarrassing to Bush Administration officials and congressmen who at first denied that there had been any such warnings before September 11, senior Jordanian officials backed away from their earlier confirmations." Christian Science Monitor calls the story "confidently authenticated" even though Jordan has backed away from it. [International Herald Tribune, 5/21/02, Christian Science Monitor, 5/23/02] FTW

RUSSIA: Russian intelligence clearly warns the US several times that 25 or so terrorists, including suicide pilots, will attack the US, targeting "important buildings like the Pentagon"

August 2001 (D): Russian President Putin warns the US that suicide pilots are training for attacks on US targets. [Fox News, 5/17/02] The head of Russian intelligence also later states, "We had clearly warned them" on several occasions, but they "did not pay the necessary attention." [Agence France-Presse, 9/16/01] A Russian newspaper on September 12, 2001 claims that "Russian Intelligence agents know the organizers and executors of these terrorist attacks. More than that, Moscow warned Washington about preparation to these actions a couple of weeks before they happened." Interestingly, the article claims that at least two of the terrorists were Muslim radicals from Uzbekistan. [Izvestia, 9/12/01, (the story currently on the Izvestia web site has been edited to delete a key paragraph, the link is to a translation of the original article from From the Wilderness)] FTW
OTHER WARNINGS

AFGHANISTAN: Al-Qaeda is planning an imminent "huge attack" inside the US that will kill thousands

ARGENTINA: A major terrorist attack is planned against either the US, Argentina, or France

Late July 2001 ©: Argentina's Jewish community receives warnings of a major terrorist attack against either the United

a reply to: wildb

After 14 years, you still have yet to post a single piece of evidence that explosives wre used.

BTW, are you a thermite supporter of Steven Jones and Richard Gage as far as 9/11 is concerned? In other words, do you believe that thermite was used to bring down the WTC buildings? Yes or no.

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