What Will Historians in 2065 Say About This Time Period We Now In - 2015?

a reply to: manta78

That would depend on which nation's historians hold the pen, wouldn't it? Half a century may require several rewrites, or if the autopilot into oblivion continues, I imagine this era will be known as Humanity's Great Disillusionment, before the veil was torched off the world's civilizations.

a reply to: Aleister

Very insightful post. I hope you are right. It would be great to have a positive future to look forward to. So many people nowadays just don't see how that can happen as we are surrounded by many negative things on a day to day basis.

a reply to: Aleister

Heheh I let the pessimist side in me post on this thread, and you sound exactly like my optimist side. I think you're right too - but that's more what will 2020-2030 look like. OP asked for 2015, so the cynical answer is what I gave

We can and WILL fix this, which will make all the naysayers and obstructionists from the current day look all the more dark-agey.

a reply to: manta78

They'll reflect on how "dangerous" it was to live in this time... trusting people to "drive" themselves around killing thousands and injuring hundreds of thousands more each year... by then anything you'll need will be delivered by an automated system.

Travel will be expensive and limited... but then there probably won't be anywhere to go that's not already crowded with the massisve population, with everyone "safer" and living longer...

And then there's the pollution...

Yes, 2015 may be a bit too soon to see the full enlightenment of the era which has started, but it certainly falls within a quickening of the changes. On a thread note, why is this thread in the Freshman's forum? A strange but surrealistic parking space for an interesting unfreshman-like topic.

a reply to: manta78

It will be remembered as a time of war, a time when nation's slipped into mass poverty and growing inequality and a time of plague and death.

But then again that is if the honest historians are writing it and given that the power base may shift radically to other nation's away from the west it will in some be regared as the beginning of a golden age while the old first world will likely have slipped into second or even third world status and it's ethnic and cultural demographic will by that time be radically different with islamic nations entrenched in europe by that time.

We will likely see major conflict in Asia, potential conflict in Europe and definite internal conflict in europe with the likely break away of several current EU nations and potential totaly break up of the EU due to irreconcilable differences over immigration policy, cultural integration and class division that shall weigh extremely heavily on some of these nations if not all of them.

The Nordic countrys shall see a population shift to about 70 percent Ethnic non europeans and a religious shift to about 80 percent islamic in that same time period, Britain shall go well before that however with a potential earlier split inside the UK that shall serve only to move even more power into the hand's of the eurocrats or a demolishing of the human rights bill that shall leave the UK a veritable police state with no recourse of legal protection for it's citizens and in that time about half the population of Britian will be Islamic by religion and of less than one hundred year british ancestral residence.

There will be mounting racial divide and even war leading to ethnic cleansing as the EU breaks up in many nations' and as the immigration from the east fails to cease but instead increases due to climate change and other pressures on large middle eastern and eastern eurasian nation's.

It may also be a time of rewriting history to fit the world view of those whom are then empowered over what we today see as our nation's.

The next 50 years will be a time of chaos, power rebalancing and war.

There will be more war and famine in Africa, new superplagues that will be allowed to run rampent in a misguided attempt to cull the population andn massive ecological collapse in many part's of teh world, China will probably emerge as the new dominant superpower with Iran and Saudi Arabie by then pointing nuclear missiles at one another, Terrorists will potentially detonate nuclear devices a several western capitols within the next twenty years, maybe not the US but they will strike someone they see as infidel to there thought's, the middle east will potentially erupt even further with Israel being forced to rely on it's own nuclear deterrant and potentially using it.

originally posted by: NickK3
a reply to: manta78

They'll reflect on how "dangerous" it was to live in this time... trusting people to "drive" themselves around killing thousands and injuring hundreds of thousands more each year... by then anything you'll need will be delivered by an automated system.

Travel will be expensive and limited... but then there probably won't be anywhere to go that's not already crowded with the massisve population, with everyone "safer" and living longer...

And then there's the pollution...

Interesting. Why will travel be expensive and limited in your opinion?

a reply to: LABTECH767

Very interesting. I guess only time will tell.

p.s. you sound like an analyst to me; that's not a bad thing, but the extent/degree of the potential future you posted is broader than I would have expected.
Thank you for your post!

Well I have to go for now, and gets some shuteye for the start of a new day tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for the posts to this thread so far. Please continue to post at will and I will check back in on this thread. I forgot until tonight what a great group of ATS people we have.

originally posted by: manta78
How will historians describe this time period? Will it be judged harshly as backwards or inferior, or admired?

This is the end of the Dark Ages!
What I See is;
We are evolving as a species (yeah, as always, but this is a magnificent quantum leap, momentous throughout planetary history) from 135,000 years of 'schizo-sapiens' into homo-illuminatus, Enlightened Man!
Enlightenment = unconditional Love, Universally One in Love!
Differences? There will be no 'thought', for one.
Obviously, 'thought' is dying.
In 2 short centuries, it will be dead.
Along with 'thought/imagination', there goes 'ego', the dualistic fog that 'separates' us all, where all limitations and distinctions and time and space and life and death and you and I exist!
You and I, losing 'definition' become One.
That is what Love does, Lover and Beloved, One!
1 + 1 = 1
1 + 1 + 1 + 1... = 1
Seems a bit far-fetched?
It is simply what I see before me!
Stick around as see for yourself! *__-

Unconditional Love is absolutely transcendental, unlimited by 'time' and 'space' and 'life' and 'death' and all the dualities of 'thought'/ego!
Everything else is recycle!
How much of 'you' is unconditional Love?
That part is what looks over his shoulder in a couple of centuries and winks, knowingly! *__-

Will historians wonder why issues that seem very complicated today even existed?

There will be no 'historians'!
The 'past' and 'future' exist in 'thought/imagination'.
Without 'thought', all that 'remains' is Here! Now!
An 'eternal' Zen moment!

What things will be the same as they are now?

Noses will still be in the middle of faces.
Most, anyway.
There will be trees.
We will chop wood and carry water.
Living in Loving harmony, as the ebb and flow of the Universe, of which we are all features!
One Omni- 'Self!'!

What things will no longer exist?

Hate, books, borders, violence greed, selfishness, corruption, stupidity, libraries, hi/tech/electronics, no languages, no misunderstandings, no doubts, no mental illness, no jealousy, no anger, no 'want', no 'desire', no homeless, no hunger, no one left out, no cops, no laws, no morality, no countries, no military, no schools, no philosophy, no math, no 'literacy', ... sorry, you cannot 'imagine' because 'imagination' will also be no more (thought)!
You might get a little glimpse from that, though... or more, who knows? *__-

Will many cures be discovered for certain diseases that have plagued mankind for centuries?

All creatures, great and small, will live in symbiotic harmony.
What does the white cell do to an invader?
It embraces it, takes it 'within', it Loves it.
And all is well.
There will be no 'desire' to live a moment longer than you do, without 'thought' there is never a 'thought of death'!
Quality of 'life' is everything, quantity is imaginary (thought).

Will man have ventured out into space and have large populations on other planets?

I do not see there.
I'd assume that another century would see such a thing, considering the 'stats'.

Your thoughts or comments will be appreciated.

Oh yeah?
Prove it! *__-

"Ah yes, 2015: The Good old days".

The rear-view mirror is most often viewed through Rose-coloured glasses.

originally posted by: manta78
Although I don't anticipate being alive 50 years from now, unless some super life extending pill is invented, I sometimes wonder about this.

I do expect to be, as I am not terribly "old" in time. However, this is a great exercise of "self-reflection" on; our society, state of Mankind, our achievements and our pitfalls.

How will historians describe this time period? Will it be judged harshly as backwards or inferior, or admired?

I would suspect, in the same manner that they have always done. At first, the description will be in the biased words of those who can confidently write about it and with time, the whole truth will emerge. Think Columbus, WWII, and even the Cuban Missile Crisis. All were described by the propagandist of the day only to be reveled to be a different story.

Will historians wonder why issues that seem very complicated today even existed?

Or will they remember this time as a time of regression. Regression from great works of art, culture and advancements of Mankind to our primal basic fears?

That is off the top of my head, but it is a great question (actually questions) that you have asked that I feel compelled to ponder and think about it. Thank you.

Well, assuming they haven’t blown themselves to smithereens yet, they may look back and say something like,

“Maybe they had the last vestiges of privacy, and a smidgeon of natural wildlife and trees left to piss on, but look what we’ve got now - the latest, greatest, state-of-the-art sexbot of all-time: Vagisaurus Rex!”

The times they may change, but Human pettiness remains...

They'll say -
"Back then they used to go to war over oil. What's oil you ask? I'll get to that later. They also used to poison the population through the food provided and the water supplied. They used to be governed by criminals while imprisoning the innocent. They used to shoot planes out of the sky or fly them into buildings to gain a political advantage. They used to tax the poor and reward the wealthy. Medications were widespread that never worked and people used to die from cancer because there was a profit to be made by doing so. All in all it was pretty grim back then. Anyway, back to your quantum mechanics lessons before mummy picks you up from play school."

Well for a start they will bring up the old ATS and say it was full of doom merchants predicting doom scenarios and have not got the good grace to come back on here and appologise for being wrong. Oh, and I'll be the first person to walk on Mars. Or something like that.

Historians will likely feel sorry for us that we thought killing 30,000 people a year on our roads and highways in automobile accidents was an acceptable "price of doing business."

The real answer;
They will focus their attention on all the aspects of 2015 which seem to carry the seeds of what is happening in their own time.
So if the world of 2065 is ruled by the Chinese, there will a lot of analysis of what the Chinese were doing in 2015, who helped them, who didn't do enough to stop them because they got distracted.
If life in 2065 is dominated by the effects of pollution in the Pacific, then historians will be focussing on Fukishima and other examples of neglect of the environment.
So we need to know what 2065 is like, before we can guess what their historians will be interested in discussing.

I believe in 2065 thoughts will focus of those of us alive just before the third great world war. And our prodigy will wonder, " What the hell were they thinking? Billions in weapons and so little in medical and social research." It was inevitable an unused weapon is a useless weapon.

The time-period where man realizes that he is God, from that point on no showing off is needed. No superiority is warranted, recycling a way of life on Earth. Attainment of what one truly is, the only worthy endeavour. Realization and joy of realization the way. But depends where your @ though.

Lots of interesting comments and replies so far with a combination of hope/optimism for the future, but not much positive feelings about present day living as some have mentioned that we are living in the dark ages so to speak.

Question now is there anything that we, as ordinary human beings who are alive now in 2015, can do in the current time period to elevate or change some of the negative to a positive?

Will it take a major war, as in a WWIII as some have suggested, to effect major changes in the world today? Is there no other alternative?