ISIS left so weakened by airstrikes and desertion it could be destroyed in just HOURS

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: tony9802

Yeah ok. Let's not consider that they have dispersed and embedded their 5th column troops disguised as refugees all over Europe and North America. The msm is such a joke.

Cheers - Dave

I totally agree, that embedded threat now likewise needs to be addressed, and I do hope the eu is able and willing to do something about it.. Obama on the other hand..he will not stop anything: this is his dream come true;


It feels as though this article and news information is a bit too positive and far too self congratulating, which I totally observe and entirely understand; the "caliphate" threat is already here at home, in the north, so you're right to comment that this removal of ISIS or obliteration thereof in Syria, is merely a deception of sorts..the ISIS faithfuls are in indeed in N.America and Europe..

I was unaware that the express.co.uk was considered mainstream media..

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Black_Fox

I hope it is true but it will be disastrous for the USA if true.
Russia comes in and sorts out ISIS in three days? I really doubt it but If true.

But...but? What if it is true? Y'know, bs can only last for so long and eventually the truth always prevails. What if Russia kicks out ISIS in 3-4 months and manages calm in the ME in less than a year? What will the neo cons say about US? What will everyone say about the US? I think it will be pretty transparent by then.

a reply to: FlySolo

Well perhaps thats Putins plan. Finally show the world indefinite proof of the USA govs corruption.
That would surely be an eye opener.

If this is true then I am surprised they have suddenly gone from being such a hugely successful lot with wealth literally dripping out of the ground and the unchecked delight in killing for the fun and pleasure of inflicting suffering and fear.

I hope that the russians kill each and every single one of them men and women. I hope not one survives to try to come back here. I would wonder, if they do and it becomes public knowledge of who they are, they might wish they had not returned. They will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives the scum.

This beggars the question how come this has been done since the Russians got down to business. What exactly were the West doing out there? There are some serious questions and credibility if this is due to the last minute efforts of the russians. Amazing.

This is all a big setup.
Since they are "dismantled" in the Middle East then look for them popping up in EU and U.S.
Enter New World Order.
International troops on our soil (for our safety) and U.S. Troops on their soil (for their safety) of course.

originally posted by: Shiloh7
If this is true then I am surprised they have suddenly gone from being such a hugely successful lot with wealth literally dripping out of the ground and the unchecked delight in killing for the fun and pleasure of inflicting suffering and fear.

I hope that the russians kill each and every single one of them men and women. I hope not one survives to try to come back here. I would wonder, if they do and it becomes public knowledge of who they are, they might wish they had not returned. They will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives the scum.

This beggars the question how come this has been done since the Russians got down to business. What exactly were the West doing out there? There are some serious questions and credibility if this is due to the last minute efforts of the russians. Amazing.

The chap upstairs referred to this article out of zerohedge.com, and the article starts with the following title:

Russia Claims ISIS Now On The Ropes As Fighters Desert After 60 Airstrikes In 72 Hours

Here is the link: www.zerohedge.com...

That article starts this way:
One question that’s been asked repeatedly over the past thirteen months is why Washington has been unable to achieve the Pentagon’s stated goal of “degrading and defeating” ISIS despite the fact that the “battle” pits the most advanced air force on the planet against what amounts to a ragtag band of militants running around the desert in basketball shoes.

Those of a skeptical persuasion have been inclined to suggest that perhaps the US isn’t fully committed to the fight. Explanations for that suggestion range from the mainstream (the White House is loathe to get the US into another Mid-East war) to the “conspiratorial” (the CIA created ISIS and thus doesn’t want to destroy the group due to its value as a strategic asset).

The implication in all of this is that a modern army that was truly determined to destroy the group could likely do so in a matter of months if not weeks and so once Russia began flying sorties from Latakia, the world was anxious to see just how long the various rebel groups operating in Syria could hold up under bombardment by the Russian air force.

The answer, apparently, is “less than a week.”

On Saturday, the Russian Ministry of Defense said it has conducted 60 bombing runs in 72 hours, hitting more than 50 ISIS targets.

According to the ministry (Facebook page is here), Islamic State fighters are in a state of “panic” and more than 600 have deserted.

Here's what happens when the Russians locate a terrorist "command center": see the video on that link:
www.zerohedge.com...

originally posted by: Macenroe82
a reply to: FlySolo

Well perhaps thats Putins plan. Finally show the world indefinite proof of the USA govs corruption.
That would surely be an eye opener.

Yes, that's what I'm thinking. Russia, despite western media's best attempts, have actually been a good bear throughout all of this. Patient, calm and collected, following international law and protocol before getting involved. Putin's been trying to tell everyone what's going on but it falls on deaf ears. The only way to expose the truth is to pull off the table cloth.

originally posted by: FlySolo

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Black_Fox

I hope it is true but it will be disastrous for the USA if true.
Russia comes in and sorts out ISIS in three days? I really doubt it but If true.

But...but? What if it is true? Y'know, bs can only last for so long and eventually the truth always prevails. What if Russia kicks out ISIS in 3-4 months and manages calm in the ME in less than a year? What will the neo cons say about US? What will everyone say about the US? I think it will be pretty transparent by then.

If this is true then it would mean that America was waiting for ISIS to take out Assad before launching a serious effort. They keep reporting that ISIS is now made up of Saddam's former elites, but we have quickly defeated Saddam's best more than once, and now all of a sudden they withstand the power of a global coalition? It makes no sense. If Russia comes in and quickly sorts it out, then that a huge red flag.

a reply to: Shiloh7

www.zerohedge.com...


Twenty-four hours a day #UAV's are monitoring the situation in the ISIS activity areas. All the detected targets are effectively engaged day and night in any weather conditions.

Now obviously one must consider the source here, but Kremlin spin tactics aside, one cannot help but be amazed with the pace at which this is apparently unfolding. If any of the above is even close to accurate, it means that Russia is on schedule to declare victory over ISIS (and everyone else it looks like) in a matter of weeks, which would not only be extremely embarrassing for Washington, but would also effectively prove that the US has never truly embarked on an honest effort to rid Syria of the extremist groups the Western media claims are the scourge of humanity.

www.zerohedge.com...

That is the bottom half of the article to same zero hedge link.. add info if you find any..

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Black_Fox

I hope it is true but it will be disastrous for the USA if true.
Russia comes in and sorts out ISIS in three days? I really doubt it but If true.

Why do you doubt it? The US could have done the same thing but were waiting for ISIS to take out Assad, after all that is why our leaders created this mess in the first place.

I never believed ISIS was much of a threat, except to Assad, and the citizens of Libya, Iraq and Syria. If US leadership felt threatened by the terrorist group that they created and funded this would have been over a while ago.

The motto of US leadership since 9/11 is the ends justifies the means, even of that means lying and genocide.

We need to elect a leader who will ensure that those behind these international war crimes are tried and convicted in an international court. Then the world might actually learn who the puppet masters are.

Add - If anyone would run for office promising these war criminals would meet with justice I would actually register to vote.

a reply to: Isurrender73


and in 6 months he'll be turned to the dark side. As per normal.

I think that getting the terrorist into the west - to kick off the domestic terror war - was always the goal. I think that Russia smashing the party in Syria was just to mess with the Wests plans again.

You can't stop a country from propagating lies to its own people. But you can trip them up and force their hands. If the plans keep moving ahead or being delayed, it messes with the sequencing and opens vulnerabilities for mistakes. That principle holds true in any type of project managment.

I think that simply relying on response processes to handle any interference that "may" present itself, was a mistake. I dont know if the west just never bothered to think of bringing Russia into the plan, couldn't, or Russian interference IS part of the plan. But if this is Russia, genuinly interfering, then it is west's own fault for not giving a sleeping giant the respect it deserves.

a reply to: tony9802

Maybe the world should coordinate their military and negotiating efforts for the common good, instead of pointing fingers at each other and spewing their hate for each other. If this is true, Obama will once again have egg on his face.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Black_Fox

I hope it is true but it will be disastrous for the USA if true.
Russia comes in and sorts out ISIS in three days? I really doubt it but If true.

As a US soldier I don't really care if I do it or if my Russian counterparts do it.

ISIS needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth. No mercy, no trials, just dead.

People like them deserve nothing less than extinction.

As a US soldier you are clearly missing the point there.

This news means that US of A never had the intention of wiping out ISIS.

a reply to: tony9802

I have to say the Russians did what the US should have done over a year ago.

I say we just follow up with an Elementary School hazing Campaign to socially wreck the Idea a of Isis. You know, go with the big ones like "Isis? That is a girl name! Hahahaha y'all have a girl name, Isis is a girl's name!" And just repeat them over and over. Get some rappers to mock them too, the kids will follow and we have won!

The big difference between the US and Russia is that America has a minefield of eggshells to walk on when taking any type of action. The hold PC Paronoia has on America is relentless, even from our own citizens. You can't make cheese without breaking a few... You get the idea. They are so afraid of offending someone, or looking like the Bully that our Leadership has molded us into that action becomes a impossibility. This is not a viable plan when you are putting young men's lives on the line. They pay the price while leadership weighs out the risk assessment. It is crazy.

Russia on the other hand has a more idgaf attitude, and less international relationships to honor. Therefore action is looked at under a completely different microscope. Apples and Oranges.

Or there is the other thing. Agenda... They want to keep it alive, and us scared.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: Black_Fox

I hope it is true but it will be disastrous for the USA if true.
Russia comes in and sorts out ISIS in three days? I really doubt it but If true.

As a US soldier I don't really care if I do it or if my Russian counterparts do it.

ISIS needs to be wiped from the face of the Earth. No mercy, no trials, just dead.

People like them deserve nothing less than extinction.

Here here.

Good riddence with such vermin.

Dont care who kills them, the only good ISIS is a dead ISIS.

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: tony9802

Maybe the world should coordinate their military and negotiating efforts for the common good, instead of pointing fingers at each other and spewing their hate for each other. If this is true, Obama will once again have egg on his face.

I think this is what we have all been expecting and wanting-- our leaders though, apparently had other agendas. If true then it is indeed great news! I don't care who defeats them, as long as it gets done.

a reply to: tony9802

i think we can swap the use of the word 'desertion' here and use 'invasion', they've just left their crap filled country and moved to ours

originally posted by: Shiloh7
This beggars the question how come this has been done since the Russians got down to business. What exactly were the West doing out there? There are some serious questions and credibility if this is due to the last minute efforts of the russians. Amazing.

My thoughts exactly. Over the last couple years there's been considerable evidence of ties between ISIS and US govt and corporate interests. I'm talking about shiny new weapons and tactical gear, up-armored vehicles, things of that sort. Also, there have been some lucid connections made between their fighters and the Western intelligence community, these ties driven by wealthy interests who look to sow seeds of unrest, discord and conflict in the region.

Maybe Putin has finally had enough of the western media's ISIS dog-and-pony show,and decides to really act on solid intelligence of the shenanigans going on in his backyard. If he decided to stop playing along, a few well-placed hammer blows might snuff out the whole damn thing.

It will be interesting (and hopefully not too scary) to see the US reaction over the next several days.