Tenn. county to consider resolution begging God to spare them ‘His coming wrath’ over gay marria

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
Of course it is, i just didn't know i would be part of it you know

Well, in that case, rejoice in your great victory. Get out there looking fierce and fabulous while awaiting the wrath of God.

ppl been waiting for gods wrath for thousands of years. he appearantly sent jesus instead telling people to calm the hell down and stop being such religious fanatics.

I guess I will take my queue from that guy...seems mans wrath is far more likely and viscous..especially when filled with rightousness belief.

originally posted by: SaturnFX

he appearantly sent jesus instead telling people to calm the hell down and stop being such religious fanatics.

That worked out so well too...

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: SaturnFX

he appearantly sent jesus instead telling people to calm the hell down and stop being such religious fanatics.

That worked out so well too...

yeah, most people ignored him then...and now.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: olaru12

What a load of INSANITY. And a WASTE of time and money. Utterly ridiculous.

I would like to propose a resolution for Kentucky and Tennessee to be forcibly expelled from the union - with high walls to keep them all INSIDE. I wouldn't miss them at all, except for the lovely terrain - and I can find those same conditions in other places.

Wow lets not do that now, I live in TN and its nothing like that here everywhere, although it does appear that way sometimes. I come across religious nut jobs all the time, they are quite funny in their die hard belief system, I hope it snows this year and they will really loose their minds. To be honest this isn't the most outrageous thing I`d expect from a group like that.

...and no you cannot find lands like that of middle TN, especially this year with the leaves changing color right about now, parts of Virginia come close but its not the same.

a reply to: StratosFear

I come across religious nut jobs all the time, they are quite funny in their die hard belief system, I hope it snows this year and they will really loose their minds. To be honest this isn't the most outrageous thing I`d expect from a group like that.

Okay, then...

I believe you. What are you all [sane people] prepared to do (if anything) to change things, though?

To stop them from embarrassing your entire state?

they are quite funny in their die hard belief system

I don't find it funny anymore. I find it menacing.

a reply to: olaru12

Olaru, the other day you made a thread about another southern state actually closing down it's drivers license divisions, so black people couldn't get a license or picture ID, and consequently would be unable to vote. You remember that don't you? You tried to make the people of Alabama look as racist as you possible could.

That was proven to be some rather nasty and smelly BS, read: lies from a rag publication. The entire OP was a lie.

This little gem: www.abovetopsecret.com...

So, since you are the authority lately, on southern politics, I have a question. Exactly who are the folks of Tennessee going to give this resolution to? To the President? To the Mayor? Directly to God himself?

And how will they know if God approves it or not? ... If he doesn't will he strike them all dead? If he does will he strike all the gay folks dead? It's utter nonsense. I looked all over the place for substantive documents but didn't see a thing. you really have to do some searching to find this smear.

Apparently Tenn didn't see what happened to Texas when they prayed to God to end their drought because the drought just got worse. Now Tenn will become a haven for gays who want to get married.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs


NVM. Logging off. I've had enough bigotry for one day.





Nah,I'm going to go ahead and say it.

I think it's time to separate the States: those who are religious have to live in the Declared Religious Zone States, and ONLY in the Religious states. They cannot travel outside their states without a "visa".

Other States would be Declared Religion-Free Zones. No Christians.

But then, I'm a problem solver. When we implement this change, citizens may choose one or the other, but once they've become citizens of that zone, there they will stay.

This is not just bigotry. This is crazy train bigotry. Problem-solver my ass.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

And how will they know if God approves it or not? ... If he doesn't will he strike them all dead? If he does will he strike all the gay folks dead? It's utter nonsense. I looked all over the place for substantive documents but didn't see a thing. you really have to do some searching to find this smear.

Check it out....

Hey, don't blame me for for the smear, looks like the Blount county board of commissioners brought it on themselves.

Pay particular attention to G-7, I hope that clears things up for you.

www.blounttn.org...

There are 95 counties in the state of Tennessee.

Wikipedia I know NOT accurate!

Blount's (pronounced locally as Blunt) county seat is Maryville.

RESOLUTION CONDEMNING JUDICIAL TYRANNY AND PETITIONING GOD’S MERCY

Whereas, the Governor, Attorney General, and ALL WE Blount County Legislators have sworn an oath consistent with the moral Law of God (“So Help Me God”) to uphold the Constitution of
Tennessee and the Constitution of the United States; and

Whereas, the fulfillment of this oath, in the American tradition, may not be read to contradict the written Constitution, Justice, Reason and higher Natural Law; and

Whereas, not all orders claiming authority under color of law are lawful; and

Whereas, unlawful orders, no matter their source – whether from a military commander, a federal judge, or the United States Supreme Court – are and remain unlawful, and should be resisted; and

Whereas, the American system of federalism envisions a political stance of resistance by
States and their office holders against lawless federal court orders; and

Whereas, modernly, federal judges have once again usurped powers not delegated to them, and have violated Reason, the Rule of Law and Natural Law by purporting to strike down State laws and acts of the People recognizing and protecting Natural Marriage; and

Whereas, the United States Supreme Court is not the sole and final arbiter of the powers of the
States under the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, when it acts in an area outside of its jurisdiction; and

Whereas, the federal Judiciary was created by the Founders to have “neither Force nor Will, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm” and the
States, for the carrying out of its judgments, and it is high time that the Court be so reminded; and

Whereas we are forced beyond our wishes to comply with what is clearly against our conscience, and violates what the Bill of Rights, both State and Federal, give us the Right to do…

With a firm reliance upon the providence of Almighty God WE the BLOUNT COUNTY
LEGISLATURE call upon all of the Officers of the State of Tennessee, the Governor, the
Attorney General, and the members of the Tennessee Legislature, to join US, and utilize all authority within their power to protect Natural Marriage, from lawless court opinions, AND THE financial schemes of the enemies of righteousness wherever the source AND defend the Moral Standards of Tennessee.

WE adopt this Resolution before God that He pass us by in His Coming Wrath and not destroy our County as He did Sodom and Gomorrah and the neighboring cities. As the Passover Lamb was a means of salvation to the ancient Children of Israel, so we stand upon the safety of the Lamb of God to save us.

WE adopt this Resolution begging His favor in light of the fact that we have been forced to comply and recognize that the State of Tennessee, like so many other God-fearing States, MAY have fallen prey to a lawless judiciary in legalizing what God and the Bible expressly forbids.

CERTIFICATION OF ACTION ATTEST
Commission Chairman County Clerk


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So far publicity on this issue has been almost uniformly negative, highlighting opinions almost exclusively from those holding progressive views.
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From the same article^

I'm sad today that my fellow ATSers have lumped all of the residents of Tennessee into this!
I think it's a shame that those who portray online a type of "hippie, love and peace" philosophy would lump together those who obviously have no care and compassion with their fellow man into a sea of "all of THOSE" people should just leave the Union and we will build walls because they feel differently than we do...WTF?! Really!?

Strange!
Anyway, not ALL people who live in Tennessee feel the same so maybe some weirdo from the 10th most populated county should not be given her 15 minutes of fame...after all...she has been met with negative comments so...were those from people who don't live here?
Don't think so! They were from those of us who live in the state of Tennessee...
Enough with the bashing! YOU can do better than that!

a reply to: TNMockingbird

Do you honestly believe that this story doesn't call for some serious attention or criticism?

Or humor?

:-)

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I think it's time to separate the States: those who are religious have to live in the Declared Religious Zone States, and ONLY in the Religious states. They cannot travel outside their states without a "visa".

Other States would be Declared Religion-Free Zones. No Christians.

But then, I'm a problem solver. When we implement this change, citizens may choose one or the other, but once they've become citizens of that zone, there they will stay.

So, after you have stripped me of my constitutional rights, and my freedoms, particularly my freedom of movement and travel, where would you send me? I'm curious to know what my future would be like under your rules.

Will you choose one of the more scenic states? -- since I am to be confined, will you permit a nice view? Or am I to be tucked in one of the out-of-the way states, or perhaps in a desert, which I guess you will want to rename as it will be a "zone" of some sort. (You don't want innocent. benevolent, non-bigoted and equality loving atheists like yourself to unwittingly stumble into our zone)..... maybe you could name it ... something like.....I don't know, - Auschwitz, comes to mind, or one of those names you can really feel good about, since you seem to like that kind of thing.

You could put me over a fault line, or how about around Yellowstone? That way when the volcano blows you can have the warm fuzzies knowing I was the first to go.

Segregation at it's finest. A country divided, men created equal, the pursuit of happiness, freedom of religion, all that, simply hogwash. You would change all that, as well as the "American Way" since according to you, freedom is rubbish.

But you are doing your part, advocating for segregationism, and my goodness, your hatred seems to know no bounds. I think you called it "problem solving". I've always thought of you as one of the most struggling, religiously confused people I've ever come across -- tormented, really, -- you've had some very 'wild times' in your struggles, as I recall, but, yes. I think I understand where you are coming from now.

a reply to: ladyinwaiting

calm down, calm down.

I was responding "in kind" with an outlandish, ridiculous idea - you know, a smart-ass type of thing.
Sorry if you took it to heart.
I'm just sick to death of the never-ending bitching.

Oh, and I'm not an "atheist", ma'am. I'm an agnostic Deist. I have no interest in religion whatsoever.

I'm sorry to see that some people took this ribbing so seriously. I think this proposed resolution is laughable and deserves to be critiqued and laughed about. I mean, how ironic is it that an elected official would think to so blatantly mix church and state?

Of course, it doesn't reflect on the whole state or even the people of the state. Some support this, yes, but it's one person that is responsible. She should know better. This is the legal system, not Sunday worship.

This situation highlights the outcome of the religious right's agenda to get more and more religious people into offices of government, in order to influence law with religion. And many religious people disagree with it. This is just part of the price of freedom. People are going to exercise their freedom to do stupid things. And this is STUPID. But it doesn't reflect on the people of Tennessee any more than Kim Davis' actions reflect on the people of Kentucky.

Public debate concerning the resolution could turn fiery as opinions seem to be strong on both sides of the issue. Ginny West Case, a retired Christian educator in the United Methodist Church, said the God of Miller’s resolution doesn’t sound like the God she knows.
...
Case has an idea that God’s anger might be be focused elsewhere than on same-sex marriages. “I think the wrath of God is more inclined to fall on those people who are so condemning and judgmental,” she said. “… But, I believe more greatly in the grace of God, and I believe the grace of God makes room for all people at the table.”

So let's not forget that there are reasonable people involved. Here's another.

Brett Rich, a Blount County resident, contacted The Daily Times through email to express his disappointment with the resolution.

“I have received information that Blount County wants to vote on a resolution asking God to not harm our county because our county follows the law of the United States. I find the wording of their resolution to be a very sad form of intolerance from our government.
...
Government should be doing things to make life better for all of its citizens instead of wasting time and money to show hate, intolerance and trying to remove equal rights for their constituents.”

Source

There will be a meeting Tuesday at 6:30 to discuss this resolution. My guess is that it will be put to rest. Let's see how it plays out. But as far as I can see, there's no reason to be truly upset. I do believe the rights of the people will win out. I could be wrong, but I'll wait and see.

Ladies and gentlemen,

I believe Kentucky and Tennessee are two of the most beautiful states in our union. I have often thought to live there would be idyllic.

I live...wait for it....

in Kansas. You think my own state's behavior doesn't piss me off and embarrass me? It does. It also bothers me that most people think we ride cows to church and there's nothing but wheat everywhere. This is untrue. In fact, the area I live in looks very much like KY and TN, it is lovely. It is the far northeastern area, adjacent to Missouri at the river.

The people are kind and hospitable, helpful, and in my area, we are fully INTEGRATED - Asians next to Mexicans next to Cubans and Black people and us white folks - all ON THE SAME BLOCK of this STREET. Ironically, there is a large church in our midst, which is hardly ever occupied, and when it is, no more than a handful of people are there. The pastor knows our names, he's a perfectly kind gentleman, and not a one of us attend his services. But we look out for the property, it is part of our immediate neighborhood.

(Down the street about half a mile, we have some shops that are owned and operated by Indian immigrants and some that are run by African Muslims. We also have public housing, a live-in nursing facility, and a police outpost. Is there trouble? Yes, it originates in the public housing "projects" - which is a different kettle of fish than we are discussing, but worth mentioning.)


We, as a cluster of homeowners, help each other out, we know each other's names and watch for trouble (which isn't far away at all). None of us are fanatics, or haters. In a pinch, we have each other's backs. We share our garden produce, help with projects, donate things to each other.....

Out west, however, there are die-hard conservative Bible-folks living in bedroom towns occupied by farmers. Why are they so different from us townies? - I blame education and cultural awareness for the disparity. References to "hayseeds" ring a bell? My son is seeing a young lady who has just come to "the big city" for the first time in her LIFE. She is mesmerized by the cultural diversity and experience of being out of her tiny town, away from her alcoholic father who is an abusive widower. I haven't yet met her, but he is enjoying showing her around town. To her, it's a different world entirely.

I am sincerely sorry that you all did not recognize that I was thinking up the most ridiculous "solution" I could; a reflection of what I see happening in this country ESPECIALLY as it's ramping up with the upcoming election. Trump's ideas are over the top, so are Cruz's; Walker, too - iin fact every one of the 'candidates' except Rand Paul is speaking in terms nearly as ridiculous.

But I'm not running for President, folks. Never. Not even the school board, or the dog-catcher. Please harness your wrath at my sarcasm, and apply it to the idiots that really want to do things like I suggested.

Please.

Again, I apologize for not being clear enough that I was deliberately exaggerating a wildly asinine idea.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs
Same in Colorado Buzzy

I love my state - but this split exists everywhere - and seems to be getting bigger

Words is all we got - facetiousness is welcome

It hardly ever gets written into law

:-)

hardly ever

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Same in New Mexico. I live in a small, fairly liberal college town, and we have all kinds here. But there are just as many sort of segregated areas where "die-hard conservative Bible-folks" live peacefully. I get upset at some of the things people do, but it takes all kinds.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Same in New Mexico.

Do me a favor. Since you live in New Mexico, can you head over to Santa Fe and kick George Martin in the ass and tell him to finish his next book already.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

For you? I'll see what I can do. I'll give him a call.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Oh, and I'm not an "atheist", ma'am. I'm an agnostic Deist. I have no interest in religion whatsoever.

Just to cover my petootie - I mean I have no interest in BELONGING to or PARTICIPATING in a religion. I am, however, fascinated by the sociological aspects and psychology of it, though. Like watching a train wreck, kinda.

Just observing and reporting what I see.