Several possible UFOs on ISS HD Timelapse video?

a reply to: intrptr

I can see satilites on a clear night and yes they do move fast but I still see them.

originally posted by: intrptr

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Jim Oberg was talking about watching for something passing relatively nearby the ISS and it makes sense that would be hard to see. I don't think he was talking about watching for anything in a Polar orbit. Maybe he can clarify if I misinterpreted but I don't think so. The ISS is not in a polar orbit.

I think there are several factors that might make the polar orbit satellites easier to see. If they are in 100 minute orbits they are at a higher altitude than the ISS but not hugely higher. This also permits lighting conditions where the polar orbiting satellite could be in sunlight while the ISS is still in shade, allowing the ISS camera to be relatively sensitive to light and the polar orbiting satellites to be bright reflectors. The two parallel streaks that appear only briefly is about what I might expect to see for polar orbit satellites. The one that puzzles me more is the first single object which is visible for a longer time, but again if we can see satellites from the ground, why not in space? They are potentially closer in space.

What would cause reflections like those?

Does anyone recognize the location of the ISS by point 1:08 in the video, judging by the land masses that end before the station orbits over an ocean? Is it the Pacific? If so, the ISS might be passing beyond the land mass to the left in this map. Do we have a geography expert aboard here?

northern Pacific]northern Pacific

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: Constance

Best way to see it is probably to go to 1:07 and click to stop it, then put it in full screen (since you don't usually want to be in there given eye problem you mentioned) and look in the lower left area of the screen. If you want to watch it move from the horizon to that point, maybe track back to 1:02 and stay focused on only the left side of the screen. It's quite an interesting object. I've frozen it several times in order to get a better look at it; in the last second or two it seems to have several lights in the front.

I think I see what you mean. To my eyes, it is lit the entire time, with white and yellow lights that appear to be almost lighting it from the inside...a soft, blurry glow...and then as it travels to the bottom of the screen, it grows brighter at the front half of it. It is shaped like a kite almost, and flat, and appears to be traveling at a bit of a slant, but looks like it levels out a few seconds before it disappears from view. It also looks like it has some vapor-ish stuff coming from the tail end of it and underneath the side edges, right before the front of it gets brighter. Does that sound like your pancake?

tigertatzen, you and I seem to be the only people interested in the obect visible from 1:02 to 1:08, most visible just before it moves beyond camera range in the lower left corner of the screen. Someone on another forum has suggested that this might be Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands. I'm wondering if it could be since as that individual pointed out the island seems to be both brightly lit and quite 'built up' vertically. A number of details you were able to observe in following this object from the limb of the planet to its last and largest image would seem to me to rule out the object's being an island.

Too little to see what's going on.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

What would cause reflections like those?

Reflections from the ISS structure itself outside the view of the camera but still in view of the lens. Since the ISS is moving reflections would seem to move cross the screen, too.

Look at the bright spot on the earth just past 1:10, nobody is claiming thats a UFO because its on the ground. Its moving as fast as everything else in view because of the the changing POV of the camera.

But thanks for calling me back, I have reviewed it again and again, and I also can't rule out its satellites…

Wow, as others pointed out, there is a whole lot of traffic up there! The other lights are (most likely) simply satellites, as there are thousands, but I'm surprised so many can be seen... and an odd one in what seems a retrograde orbit? Huh...

but the view... lordy I love these videos... gorgeous... and reminds us all we are wonderful specks of goo wondering at it all while we live out our short lives in a thin wisp of gas on a middling rock hurtling around several different gravity wells.

Truly awesome... and for once that word is used correctly.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Arbitrageur

What would cause reflections like those?

Reflections from the ISS structure itself outside the view of the camera but still in view of the lens. Since the ISS is moving reflections would seem to move cross the screen, too.

Look at the bright spot on the earth just past 1:10, nobody is claiming thats a UFO because its on the ground. Its moving as fast as everything else in view because of the the changing POV of the camera.

But thanks for calling me back, I have reviewed it again and again, and I also can't rule out its satellites…

I'm not clear about what's meant to be interpreted from the video of the two objects over Atlanta. Are you saying that these could be satellites, or somehow reflections of satellites? Both options seem to be impossible.

a reply to: Constance

Two objects? Who says objects?

I think the consensus was something moving behind the camera in the isle, like the soft drink or meal cart.

Reflection nonetheless…

Edit: This one too…As the plane banks the sun in the foreground is moving on the curved surface of the windscreen giving the illusion it is moving faster than the plane.

In the former video, the source of light is reflected on the inside of the glass, on the latter, the source (sun) is outside.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Constance

Two objects? Who says objects?

I think the consensus was something moving behind the camera in the isle, like the soft drink or meal cart.

Whose consensus was that? It's a possible explanation of course, but can't be proved.

originally posted by: Constance

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Constance

Two objects? Who says objects?

I think the consensus was something moving behind the camera in the isle, like the soft drink or meal cart.

Whose consensus was that? It's a possible explanation of course, but can't be proved.

What can't be proved? Both these videos had threads done on them. They're here somewhere. Doesn't look at all similar to OP video, does it?

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Constance

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Constance

Two objects? Who says objects?

I think the consensus was something moving behind the camera in the isle, like the soft drink or meal cart.

Whose consensus was that? It's a possible explanation of course, but can't be proved.

What can't be proved? Both these videos had threads done on them. They're here somewhere.

I don't want to argue with you, ok? I'm just not sure that any consensus of opinion is sufficient to constitute proof about the cause of some images captured in videos. I don't know what you mean by the last sentence of your post:


"Doesn't look at all similar to OP video, does it?

a reply to: Constance

Oh, a little snark. Sorry.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Constance

Oh, a little snark. Sorry.

No problem. I guess you meant that the various items that interest us in the video posted by the OP can also be explained as reflections

a reply to: Constance

tigertatzen, you and I seem to be the only people interested in the obect visible from 1:02 to 1:08, most visible just before it moves beyond camera range in the lower left corner of the screen. Someone on another forum has suggested that this might be Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands. I'm wondering if it could be since as that individual pointed out the island seems to be both brightly lit and quite 'built up' vertically. A number of details you were able to observe in following this object from the limb of the planet to its last and largest image would seem to me to rule out the object's being an island.

I wondered, too, if it could be an island and I really can't tell for sure. I've had a couple other people watch it and neither of them can either. It really appears to be skimming over the planet rather than being a fixed object. I slowed it down too, and also went frame-by-frame, and each time it really doesn't appear to be a land mass to me. I wish it stayed in the frame longer than it does so I could study it a little better after it approaches the bottom of the screen.

a reply to: Constance

Great!!! You see it, and in much more detail than I do. You have incredibly unique eyesight. I wish I could see this the way you do. I see it moving very fast, being round/oval and pancake-like, a grey color, with lights at the front as it gets closer and I see just a hint of light farther back. I'd love to be able to see the luminosity you see, the glow, and the yellow lights, as well as the vapor coming off it. I hope someone here at ATS will be able to produce an enlargement of the object just before it flies out of the screen. Thanks for looking at it, tigertatzen.

Absolutely! I'm just happy I could see it...it's just dark enough for me. I wish I had the ability to isolate and enlarge it myself. If I could lend you my eyes, I would do it in a heartbeat!

a reply to: intrptr

a reply to: tigertatzen

Go shoot a gun and try to see the bullet. You can't. In space things are whizzing around 5 times faster than bullets, relative to each other. All of this is moot anyway, because we can't rule out the possibility of reflection or flare in or off the lens or _

Wow...learn something new every day...I had no idea objects move that fast in space.

originally posted by: tigertatzen
a reply to: Constance

tigertatzen, you and I seem to be the only people interested in the obect visible from 1:02 to 1:08, most visible just before it moves beyond camera range in the lower left corner of the screen. Someone on another forum has suggested that this might be Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands. I'm wondering if it could be since as that individual pointed out the island seems to be both brightly lit and quite 'built up' vertically. A number of details you were able to observe in following this object from the limb of the planet to its last and largest image would seem to me to rule out the object's being an island.

I wondered, too, if it could be an island and I really can't tell for sure. I've had a couple other people watch it and neither of them can either. It really appears to be skimming over the planet rather than being a fixed object. I slowed it down too, and also went frame-by-frame, and each time it really doesn't appear to be a land mass to me. I wish it stayed in the frame longer than it does so I could study it a little better after it approaches the bottom of the screen.

A member of the Paracast forum has posted eight screen grabs from ~ 1:08 at the link below, the sequence of which I think shows slight changes in visible details and possible attitude of the object in the lower left. I looked for the latter remembering your comment the other night about an apparent change in the angle of pitch of the object. Island or flying object? I still think the latter.

www.theparacast.com...-233448


NOTE: the eight screen grabs appear at the end of the Paracast thread's first page. I meant to post a more direct link to these large images themselves and will try to do so.

It would be good if someone here with the necessary technical skill could post one or two of these screen grabs so they can be readily enlarged and studied here.

originally posted by: Constance
It would be good if someone here with the necessary technical skill could post one or two of these screen grabs so they can be readily enlarged and studied here.

I did that above. The enlargements were unenlightening.