Ufos & Foo Fighters in Pulp Mags before 1950s

a reply to: Wolfenz

I don't know who all the characters were in the Roswell press conference. My groggy memory seems to recall even the press got into the act.

As far as technology being foretold or drawn, I remember the sic fi of my youth before space flight, lots of engineers dreamt up stuff from the genre because it could work. There was a lot of design engineering going on during WWII, too. Concept drawings of fantastic weapons they can't talk about at the time, but can allude to in Sci Fi, (because thats "not real").

The original Buck Rogers, born from novels prior to WWII and like Star Trek, inspired inventors to explore, I'm sure.

Wiki

Look at the cover of Armageddon, 2419 for saucer shaped craft.

Book Cover

Wonder Stories Quarterly 1931



Wonder where Geoge Lucas got the Idea from the Cantina Bar Scene in Star Wars ?
Astounding Stories 1938 Aug.



Death Ray like in the Death Star from Star wars a Doomsday planet killer

Reminds me of Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind Mother Ship ( Floating City )





Something like the Pyramid Shape Ufo seen over around Russia

Foo Fighters from 1929 & 1930

UFO Disk's aka Saucers from 1930

If we have all these depictions of pre Kenneth Arnold/Roswell spacecraft and aliens, than where does the current depiction of "Cigar,Crescent, and Saucer type craft and Grays,Nordics,Reptilians,insectoids come from? Our collective unconscious, "thought-forms", BS?

Or our these types of craft and entities the way they are because they're the most efficient forms of spacecraft and intelligent beings?

originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: Wolfenz

Extremely interesting in the fact that your top page showing the flying saucers was in 1942.

The Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting occurred on June 24, 1947, and is (or was) the incident in which the term "Flying Saucers",

"Like saucers skipping on a pond"

was attributed to and coined.

Add: And coming across the 1911 one, blows my mind.

as Arnold Said that the UFO MOVED like a Saucer skipping in a body of water
as in like a wave motion or zig zag ..

although , he did not mention the Description of what it look like as a Saucer ,
as what he did mentioned of what Arnold.... has seen, as curved Flying Wing
a group in formation..

Im not Sure when the Description of a Disk Shaped
came about, although the PULP Science Fiction Magazines and later Digests
show's them since the mid 1920s.

Extremely interesting in the fact that your top page showing the flying saucers was in 1942.

The Article is even more interesting ! of where that Illustration came from

Beyond the End of Time

talking about a Time Machine . Time Cage.. ( UFO )
and going of into space billion of Miles away from earth also


The Story is from this Pulp Mag..





Brief:::

The stricken Allen who ran and seized the girl,
was aware abruptly that the glade was crashing with on
coming metal shapes , rumbling circular vehicles , with a platform
on top where men where standing..




Publication: Super Science Stories, November 1942
ISFDB Publication Record # 60802 (View All Issues) (View Issue Grid)
www.isfdb.org...

So according to the Pulp Story Men from the Future,
not of this world Aliens ..

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Wolfenz

I don't know who all the characters were in the Roswell press conference. My groggy memory seems to recall even the press got into the act.

As far as technology being foretold or drawn, I remember the sic fi of my youth before space flight, lots of engineers dreamt up stuff from the genre because it could work. There was a lot of design engineering going on during WWII, too. Concept drawings of fantastic weapons they can't talk about at the time, but can allude to in Sci Fi, (because thats "not real").

The original Buck Rogers, born from novels prior to WWII and like Star Trek, inspired inventors to explore, I'm sure.

Wiki

Look at the cover of Armageddon, 2419 for saucer shaped craft.

Book Cover

let say there was a bunch .. of claimed witnesses.
from people that were on the Roswell base from those days
ranchers and their family telling about the incident ,
relatives of mac Brazel and Marcell,
a few that saw and touched the craft, a collage trip
and a family group rock hunting, & employees from
the Roswell radio station , the police department , etc..
neighbors of Mac Brazel of what they heard and witnessed

As far as technology being foretold or drawn, I remember the sic fi of my youth before space flight, lots of engineers dreamt up stuff from the genre because it could work. There was a lot of design engineering going on during WWII, too. Concept drawings of fantastic weapons they can't talk about at the time, but can allude to in Sci Fi, (because thats "not real").

What's ironic is, the early science fiction writers
of Pulp Mags were actually scientist's and engineers that
had degrees . and that's a fact. so in all actuality
the Pulp Mags was their play thing.
I Bet they loved hearing the Responses
from the Letters mailed to the Pulp company's in response section
like for example in Wonder Stories
( The Science Fictioneer ) in the next pulp issue

hell... even look at the Ideas and concepts
of Jules Verne ! from a Submarine to going on the Moon..

The original Buck Rogers, born from novels prior to WWII and like Star Trek, inspired inventors to explore, I'm sure.

Right , Robert Goddard , Warner van Braun , Hermann Oberth,
Konstantin Tsiolkovsky and other Rocket Scientist were inspired
by Jules Verne's Book From Earth To The Moon.

a reply to: Wolfenz

I am mostly impressed by actual sighting of a non earth tech thingy. I know that 'others' have worked out the physics to flight without combustion, gravity and or time displacement, maneuvering and sensory apparatus outside our realm of understanding… for I have seen it with my own eyes.

Todays sic fi is tomorrows reality.

Edit: thanks for all the work you putt into bringing the covers of "comics" and the stories behind them. Too bad people aren't as interested these days, the world is a different more pressing place now. Lots of scientific development has been invested into making war instead of making explore…

We have refined our tech to destroy instead of improving ourselves.

Well Seeing, Ufo & Alien Art Influenced from Pulp Mags.


What about Alien Abduction ?

as most know about the Stories.. of Abductees have claimed.

A Beam of Light taking you into their Space Craft.

Wonder Stories 1931 June



Long Mechanical Tentacles Operating & Experimenting on you
while you on a Table Strapped & Binded

Startling Stories May 1939

Foo Fighter showing inside a humanoid

Wonder Stories 1931




Some more Disk Shaped Ufos




Interesting a UFO

Terraformer

Making a a body of water in a Dessert

too add some more Foo Fighters aka UFO Spears





look in the back ground

a reply to: Wolfenz

Just love this stuff. Thanks for all of the pics and leads.

Well this is interesting


The Electric Experimenter December 1915


Canal Scene of Mars

Oddly looks like a Flying Saucer ( UFO )
with Pyramid Power Plants ?


and the same Odd Shape was in a Amazing Stories Sci Fi MAg
April 1928 13 years later..




From this Pulp Mag ( above )

showing a foo fighter UFO sphere
and a Civilian man Feeling Threatened with a Gun

Argosy December 7th 1929

So what we have here is a Ballistic Cigar Shape Craft ( Mother Ship ? )
with ... what it looks like .. Many Flying DISK ( Saucer ) UFOS on the Nose of it ..
that look as if they can detach .. one being seater craft
or like Drones or probes ? thats what it look like to me ..


The Pulp is around the 1930s with Humanoid looking Being with Pointy Ears
OMG there Vulcans or Romulans

Foo Fighters UFO Attacking a Sailing Ship
with electrical charges im guessing
files.abovetopsecret.com...

Foo fighters were a very definite phenomenon that was discussed at the very highest levels both in the European and Pacific Theatres during WWII, and I would imagine afterwards, too...given the UFO related research projects that began shortly after.

The Mystery Rockets in post war Europe. Projects Sign and Grudge. Bluebook. Etc...

For a subject that is totally without merit, according to the govt/military, they surely do spend a lot of time on it...don't they?

one thing most of these covers has in common, if some of you may have missed it was Hugo Gernsbeck the editor. He is considered the grandfather of modern science fiction and held stories to a high personal standard. He influenced many many writers over the years.

He should get a thread of his own.

originally posted by: seagull
Foo fighters were a very definite phenomenon that was discussed at the very highest levels both in the European and Pacific Theatres during WWII, and I would imagine afterwards, too...given the UFO related research projects that began shortly after.

The Mystery Rockets in post war Europe. Projects Sign and Grudge. Bluebook. Etc...

For a subject that is totally without merit, according to the govt/military, they surely do spend a lot of time on it...don't they?

Right ... they spent some time on it !
back in the early 50s the most ! from The Montana 1950 Utah 1952 to Washington DC Incident of 1952
more Study was approached by the government and militarily.. in the 50s like Grudge and Project Bluebook
Why because the Military Could not Explain it themselves from their Own people from Pilots to Radar Station Controllers .. that also seen them ..
let alone the Soviets in the Cold War had their own Research projects going on too ..
America wasnt alone in that one even the UK did the Same.. most forget that..

my first notice there is something to it ... was the Videos of the Montana and Utah incident
and Astronomer Dr Allan Hynek that was on the government payroll for project Blue book..
a government researcher debunker then later had one of the biggest UFO CLUB around after his retirement from the government that is and later reviled in a documentary called It Has Begun by non other then Rod Serling.. telling
that The Examination of both films of the Montana and Utah showing UFOs from the Robertson Panel
He said that the Government had no choice but to say it was Jet Flares as they couldn't figure out what they were seeing... and had to give the public something for an answer.