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originally posted by: chewi
a reply to: strangechristian777
We decipher the info via metaphore. The metaphore at the minute is aliens and alternate realities. When our understanding and knowledge is expanded then we will eventually get the right metaphore for the message.
I believe it is nature and it can communicate via metaphore which is in turn your level of understanding. That is why so many differences in interpretations are evident. god and religion are a lesser understanding of the true messaege.
originally posted by: strangechristian777
originally posted by: chewi
a reply to: strangechristian777
We decipher the info via metaphore. The metaphore at the minute is aliens and alternate realities. When our understanding and knowledge is expanded then we will eventually get the right metaphore for the message.
I believe it is nature and it can communicate via metaphore which is in turn your level of understanding. That is why so many differences in interpretations are evident. god and religion are a lesser understanding of the true messaege.
Why do you ASSUME that God and religion are the lesser? Maybe belief in aliens is the lesser and we've gone backwards. There are things on this planet such as the Great Pyramid that we are just now becoming capable of understanding. It's possible that we've started over sometime between now and then.
originally posted by: Iamthatbish
a reply to: BestinShow
If angels work for "God" then their agenda is his..
8. They Have An Agenda
When we take a serious look at fallen angels, aliens, and gods, they all seem to have an agenda to divert worship away from God. One example of this is during alien abductions. Abductees have reported being told that Jesus was nothing more than an ascended master that was resurrected using technology. In the Bible, we are warned about angels preaching an alternative gospel:
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” – Galatians 1:8
ministerfortson.com...
"The children that were produced were called Nephilim. The word "Strange" flesh here is from the Greek which means, has a meaning of a different generic breed.”
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 1:7
As to the specific sin of these angels, we are given the facts in Jude 7. As in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah it was the sin of "fornication" and it means "going after strange flesh." "Strange" flesh means flesh of a different kind (Greek "heteros"). To commit this particularly repugnant sin, the angels had to abandon their own domain and invade a realm that was divinely forbidden to them. Says Wuest:
"These angels transgressed the limits of their own natures to invade a realm of created beings of a different nature."
Alford confirms:
"It was a departure from the appointed course of nature and seeking after that which is unnatural, to other flesh than that appointed by God for the fulfillment of natural desire."
The mingling of these two orders of being, was contrary to what God had intended, and summarily led to God's greatest act of judgment ever enacted upon the human race.
www.mt.net...
originally posted by: Isurrender73
I do believe all of the stories are related, but I see them as metaphorical from a spiritual aspect.
Nothing in the Bible is complicated. God would be stupid to write a book that people couldn't understand. That'd be the stupidest thing that He ever did. ~ Norvel Hayes (@ 3 min)
If you don't believe the Bible....fine...don't believe it. But don't suggest that one part should be taken allegory when another part of the Bible CLEARLY indicates that it isn't. I'm guessing you don't do that with other forms of literature, do you?
If you have a history book on George Washington, do you decide to read chapter 3 as an allegory, but the rest of it as fact simply because you don't want to believe the events of chapter 3 took place? If chapter 14 is believed to be historical---and it refers to the events of chapter 3 as historical....why would you believe chapter 3 to be allegory?
Is The Bible Literal Or Allegorical?
The Bible, history's most published, studied, translated and quoted book, is also its most misused and misinterpreted book. Cults and false religions use it to their own ends and others simply misinterpret it. That this occurs so often leads many to assume the Bible has no clear meaning. This is a false assumption.
As mentioned in the introduction, allegorizing Scripture has a long and destructive history. The reason many have been sold on the allegorical method is the false assumption that since the Bible is a spiritual book, inspired by the Holy Spirit, that it therefore contains hidden or secret meanings.
Many contemporary preachers are quite adept at allegorizing passages of Scripture. According to them, Jesus can be found teaching modern success theories, positive thinking, liberation theology (Marxism), Unitarianism, the New Age, or anything else. Remember that the key reason for the allegorical method's existence was to integrate the Bible with Greek philosophy or whatever other contemporary worldly ideas that seemed popular and desirable. The resurrection can be allegorized into the new hope that springs into being with the cycles of nature: bunnies, and green grass. Or it can be allegorized as something analogous to ugly larvae changing through metamorphosis into butterflies.
cicministry.org...
Historically when people do not like what a document says or they want to make it fit their philosophical bent they allegorize that document. This is what Philo did with the Jewish Bible in Alexandria, Egypt and, early on, some Christians picked up this habit from him and imported it into the church.
digitalcommons.liberty.edu...
When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense; therefore, take every word, at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths, indicate clearly otherwise.
The Golden Rule of Interpretation
Those holding to an allegorical interpretation of the Bible point to a variety of scriptures and use them as proof-texts for the claim that God intended for His Word to be interpreted allegorically, and as we shall see, many of these verses have been taken out of context or redefined so as to give the appearance of supporting the false allegorical mode of interpretation. www.scribd.com...
originally posted by: BO XIAN
In many dozens, hundreds of cases, THE LITERALISTS WERE ALWAYS PROVEN CORRECT as archeology uncovered more and more confirmation that the Bible was literally true in detail after detail. Some things are literal AND symbolic, both/and. I don't think a great number of things in the Bible are primarily or only symbolic.