Full Interview: Kim Davis Talks To Megyn Kelly About Gay Marriage Licenses

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: deadeyedick

Why can't Same-Sex Couples have Traditional Family Values? and what Heterosexual Marriage can you point out has those "Traditional" Values?

They're just words, aren't they.

Mostly a delusion.

I prefer: "Successful Marriage".

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: Skinon
a reply to: deadeyedick

So can I ask you, what is you're stance on gay marriage and homosexual behavior in general?

I think a civil union would allow for more than just gays to benefit from the gov. and ins. companies.

I support the traditional marriage values and stand against anything in public that may go against that.

You support Separate, but not Equal.

There will always be Finger Pointing: "your parents aren't married, they only have Civil Union, you're a loser".

Doesn't work.

Exactly. By separating the two terms, you make it easier for lawmakers to selectively target and discriminate against them by either "forgetting" to put civil unions into a bill that extends marriage rights or putting only civil unions into a bill that takes them away.

We know this happens because that is why Segregation failed.

a reply to: Annee

Yaaas!

So why can't same-Sex couples have successful Marriages?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: Skinon
a reply to: deadeyedick

So can I ask you, what is you're stance on gay marriage and homosexual behavior in general?

I think a civil union would allow for more than just gays to benefit from the gov. and ins. companies.

I support the traditional marriage values and stand against anything in public that may go against that.

You support Separate, but not Equal.

There will always be Finger Pointing: "your parents aren't married, they only have Civil Union, you're a loser".

Doesn't work.

No
Marriage all together should be separate from gov.

It will then be up to the couple to choose a marriage ceremony

Currently the system penalizes any two people that live together but do not screw or profess love.

That is the only interpretation of the constitution that will last.

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: deadeyedick

originally posted by: Skinon
a reply to: deadeyedick

So can I ask you, what is you're stance on gay marriage and homosexual behavior in general?

I think a civil union would allow for more than just gays to benefit from the gov. and ins. companies.

I support the traditional marriage values and stand against anything in public that may go against that.

You support Separate, but not Equal.

There will always be Finger Pointing: "your parents aren't married, they only have Civil Union, you're a loser".

Doesn't work.

No
Marriage all together should be separate from gov.

It will then be up to the couple to choose a marriage ceremony

Currently the system penalizes any two people that live together but do not screw or profess love.

That is the only interpretation of the constitution that will last.

This is about LEGAL government Marriage. The contract.

If you want government out of marriage - - - that is a completely different discussion.

What kind of celebration you have, or how you define your marriage is between you and your spouse.

The 14th amendment is doing quite well. I'm sure it will last.

For what it's worth, Pope Francis said yesterday in Philadelphia that Government Workers have the right to refuse Gay Marriage licenses.

Story: www.reuters.com...

Sounds like the Pope did his homework before coming to the United States last week.

originally posted by: carewemust
For what it's worth, Pope Francis said yesterday in Philadelphia that Government Workers have the right to refuse Gay Marriage licenses.

Story: www.reuters.com...

Sounds like the Pope did his homework before coming to the United States last week.

The Pope doesn't live here.

a reply to: Annee
It is the only sensible option and exactly what I have said all along.

So I guess you do not mind that the gov. is overseeing sex in America.

Of coarse you do not mind because you have had tunnel vision for a while being focused on the war on religion and how one very small group was not getting to marry while millions of others are still not getting their fair share of benefits based on contracts.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: carewemust
For what it's worth, Pope Francis said yesterday in Philadelphia that Government Workers have the right to refuse Gay Marriage licenses.

Story: www.reuters.com...

Sounds like the Pope did his homework before coming to the United States last week.

The Pope doesn't live here.

Right. He only has influence. Not as important as residence.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee
It is the only sensible option and exactly what I have said all along.

So I guess you do not mind that the gov. is overseeing sex in America.

Right!

Because the only thing marriage is is sex.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: carewemust
For what it's worth, Pope Francis said yesterday in Philadelphia that Government Workers have the right to refuse Gay Marriage licenses.

Story: www.reuters.com...

Sounds like the Pope did his homework before coming to the United States last week.

The Pope doesn't live here.

Right. He only has influence. Not as important as residence.

How much influence does the Pope have on America's government?

So if an amendment to the constitution gets passed that says you must jump off a bridge will you all throw everyone in jail that is still standing?

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Annee
It is the only sensible option and exactly what I have said all along.

So I guess you do not mind that the gov. is overseeing sex in America.

Of coarse you do not mind because you have had tunnel vision for a while being focused on the war on religion and how one very small group was not getting to marry while millions of others are still not getting their fair share of benefits based on contracts.

If there is a "war on religion" in America - - - its Christians trying to deny Muslims equality.

Other then that - - - America is a secular government - - exercising its right to remove the power Christianity has claimed on this nation - - that never should have been allowed in the first place.

a reply to: Annee
wordsmith.

you said the exact thing with different words

do you feel that two people living together should get benefits that two people claiming to have sex or love together get???

Something already tells me that you are too slick to see where you and others have failed way more people than you all have helped in the marriage debate.

originally posted by: deadeyedick

do you feel that two people living together should get benefits that two people claiming to have sex or love together get???

Something already tells me that you are too slick to see where you and others have failed way more people than you all have helped in the marriage debate.

Your constant insults and put-downs of posters who do not agree with you are getting annoying.

Not only that, a poster that has to resort to insults loses credibility in their argument.

Government marriage is a choice. If its not what you want, you are not required or forced to get it.

a reply to: deadeyedick

so, I guess all those people out that who chose not to be affiliated with any religion, be they athiests or just those that have chosen a separate path from spirituality...
well they can't be "married", right?

All those slaves that jumped the broom long ago, they weren't really married.
all those pioneers that didn't have access to a preacher to marry them, they weren't really married.....
and most of the people prior to the mid 1500's weren't married either since most of them were married outside of the church!!

get a grip, please....
anyone can be married really..as most of the polygamist marriages in the US are..as those slaves who jumped the broom were. as probably many in times gone by were, without gov't acknowledgement,, and without church blessing.
most want the gov't acknowledgement now days because it comes with perks.
and some want the blessing of their god and therefore have a ceremony at their church.

in their hearts they are married no matter what group they come from and no matter what you, me, the government says.
we could remove the gov't from marriage along with the perks (and restrictions) that are involved, but it wouldn't stop anyone from getting married, just like it didn't stop those slaves in times passed. And the religious would still not have sole ownership of the word marriage!
there's alot of griping on another thread at the moment about how the liberals "thought police", ect....

well I am sorry but there's is nothing more similar to "thought police" than you to think that a bunch of people who have been thinking of themselves as married for decades, if not more, to suddenly change their mind and start using a different term because you find their using it to define their non-religious marriage as being offensive. You have no grounds to try to strip that title from couples simply because they chose not to be married in a religious setting!

a reply to: deadeyedick

so, are you saying that if a couple gets married but chooses to not have sex since they want to wait to have children, they aren't married? or during those times throughout their marriage that the love wanes for whatever reason, they aren't?

is that really what defines a marriage to you? sex and love?

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: deadeyedick

so, are you saying that if a couple gets married but chooses to not have sex since they want to wait to have children, they aren't married? or during those times throughout their marriage that the love wanes for whatever reason, they aren't?

is that really what defines a marriage to you? sex and love?

I know a married couple who, for whatever religious reason, did not believe in sex.

They adopted four children.

originally posted by: dawnstar

most want the gov't acknowledgement now days because it comes with perks.

Yes. And in 3 states you can get a Legal Covenant Marriage.

Guess how many residents in those states care? "1%" That's how many have taken advantage of Legal Covenant Marriage in those states.

a reply to: Annee

ya, but here they are saying that gee if we don't want the kids, we shouldn't have the sex...
and now it seems that they are saying if we don't have the sex, we aren't married....
it's amazing how some will twist and turn, shape themselves into a pretzel even, to justify one position.
they don't want gays to marry, and they will go so far as to deny the marriages of thousands of heterosexual couples to get what they want!!