Very recent epiphany, The gay rights movement has a very sinister agenda.

OP and others who agree with him, I have two questions for you, and am very interested in your opinions:

1)What are your thoughts on genuine hermaphrodites who are born with both male and female genitalia, fully formed?

2)Homosexual behavior is rampant throughout the animal kingdom, especially among mammals. Did God design nature that way, or did Satan somehow meddle with creation? Or another reason for it?


I sincerely look forward to any insight on these questions. Thanks

a reply to: markosity1973

Gurl, Abuse is normal as long as it's done by Heterosexual Parents.. i mean i obviously wanted to get Abused because i wanted to be a Genderlfuid raging flamboyant Effeminate Homo... it has to be my fault.. why didn't i just select Hetero at the Beginning

originally posted by: theantediluvian
I find it highly strange that marriage equality and abortion are symptomatic of Satan's agenda at work in America but hundreds of years of slavery, genocide of ingenious peoples, indentured servitude and abuse of immigrants (who have themselves been a majority Christian) isn't.

Why do you think they weren't? There are actually quite a few parallels between slavery and abortion. Both dehumanize people, both deny people basic human rights, both were opposed by many denominations of Christianity, both were upheld by Supreme Court rulings.

There is no such thing as marriage equality. Marriage is the union of opposites. The agenda is to try and undermine social norms that have produced a stable society.

Hmm... fusions. I could go with that, along with Ligandry and Lygeny.

There's something going on. That's obvious. One of the many possible cards being is the propaganda on television. Its not cool being a man loving a women or a women loving a man. The cool thing is to have your daughter dress up like a boy and just let it happen.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: GoShredAK

I see this a lot.
I follow christ but not religious?.
If you follow Christ you are religious because you follow a religion.
Let me ask you something why do you cherry pick what is right and wrong from your religion?.
Oh and sexuality is a spectrum just like autism, it isn't just straight or gay.

Actually religion is a label the world created for something the world cant comprehend. What you call "religion" is your feeble attempt to belittle it. I am religious and Im not afraid to admit it. My definition of religion is far grander than what you percieve of it. Dont be so quick to label and dismiss

a reply to: Darth_Prime

You and I know the truth because we have lived it.

Don't you sometimes wish you could pull a freaky Friday with some of the vocal bigots and swap lives for a week?

a reply to: markosity1973

No, because i would never ever want to think like them... i would want them to have to feel what it was like going through my life, and the many other GLBTQ+ people who have been throughit

See, you have to realize and respect that not everyone in the usa or even the entire world is Christian. Some beleive in other faiths, some have no beliefs, some are on the fence, and all that is for every religious based belief out there. Saying that, I think if people just put religion out of everything, and just learned to either love people or not love them, it would be easier. Seems to me a lot of folk like to hate and judge others and hide behind 'God says'. When truly, it's their own ideals.

I used to be Methodist. And I have been sliding on the agnostic fence for a while. But the past few long months of seeing 'christians' throwing hate and judgement and such to fellow human beings over who they choose to LOVE,

well that just makes me go 'nope'. I want nothing to do with any religion that 'loves the sinner but hates the sin' but then tells all 'the gays' to die in a fire or kill themselves or 'go join their own kind'. Honestly to me it reminds me of a time I never had to witness being born in 73: the 'coloreds bathroom/water fountain/movies/seat/church etc only' crap. Judged humans on skin color, sadly still goes on today. Now they are judging on who someone loves.

Honestly? Be GLAD someone is capable and able and willing to both love and be loved instead of showing hate and such. The same folk who cry about peace on earth, good will toward men, sure are doing the blatant opposite where it comes to who another human being chooses to love. It's about hate on earth, bad wishes toward men. Wrong. WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Does it really destroy your personal life to know that another human loves another human who happens to have the same sex organs? Seriously? Does it really destroy your life to know that two married people can now be there in their dying spouses hospital room where before they were not because their marriage was 'not allowed'? If the shoes were on the other feet, ya'll be pretty upset. "Why cant we be with our love while they die? Why cant we get tax benefits for being married? Why is our love hated so strongly? It is just love. The most pure beautiful emotion out there... why are we denied good things because we choose to love and vow to wed that love?"

It does not matter what the sex organs are. What matters is there is real, honest, beautiful showings and givings of LOVE.

Why are we all fighting and hating over LOVE? of ALL the things to war about - and yes, this pro/anti stuff IS a war. And it's filthy. Cruel.

Wrong.

I'm just..... seriously...... this has to stop being a thing.
You all are HATING and JUDGING over LOVE.

love.
I can see hating and judging if someone was murdering your family and murdering your friends and robbing them of their possessions or stealing food out of your mouth or burning your home or getting you fired.
But hating and judging over LOVE.

Someone explain it to me cuz I sure do NOT understand. It is so kindergarten to hate someone over love. First it was 'you can't marry a black person if you are white'. Finally that passed. Those some ignorants still hate that. Hating over love. Now it's 'you have the same sexual organs, you should not marry'.
What will be next? Can't marry someone from another State or Country?

So tired of this. The juvenile CRAP people get into just shakes my head. This old country song went, "If you mind your own business you won't be minding mine. "

Well we all need to adopt that and make it our own. Cuz we are all human beings, we are all different, we are all on this round old earth in the middle of the biggest freakin' universe that no one can imagine the size of - lets focus on REAL stuff instead of whining about who loves who. OMG IT'S LOVE. love. LOVE.

hating over love.
If you all saw my face right now, it'd be like because yeah, this is baffling and wrong and just STUPID.

you all
are hating
over
LOVE.

think about it.


"but it's disgusting!!!!" You cry.
So is eating liver. I reply.
and i dont judge those who eat liver.
I eat something else that I like.
And they get liver
and i get other food
and all are happy and enjoying eating.

USE THAT IN ALL YOU DO.

a reply to: PMTVMedia

Yeah, because people tell me all the time that it's "Cool".. my Family did.. that many times i was attacked, they also said "Hey you are Cool" now let me break your ribs and stomp your face... oh and those people who call me names.. they also say "I'm Cool" as well

a reply to: Teikiatsu

Marriage Equality has always been since the 14th amendment, it's just States and people denied it and created other laws to get away with not allowing it.

People who use Religion as a Law to tell Woman that can't get an abortion if they want one, or that GLBTQ+ people can't get married or have Equal Protections are the tyrannical Agenda

Science Fixing Gods Mistakes? My title,
yet maybe you should read this before you say such things as posted in OP. My thought is you don't have a clue what is out in the Real world going on and it isn't some Devil doing the evil, it is humans, just like you and me.

a reply to: Darth_Prime

This is how 'cool' I remember my teen years at school being. In fact Phil could actually be me, and for a lot of others too I imagine.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: GoShredAK
Let me ask you something why do you cherry pick what is right and wrong from your religion?.

THIS.

If you're going to cite biblical law as your source for the sinfulness of homosexuality then you must include:

- eating shellfish
- eating pork
- women braiding their hair
- women wearing gold
- tearing clothes
- tattoos/piercings
- divorcing
- remarrying
- gossiping
- gluttony
- women speaking in church(that's a NEW testament one, absolutely no excuse to exclude it)
- playing American football(touching pig skin)
- wearing garments made with two or more kinds of material
- pulling out during sex
- want a DEATH penalty? Easy, just work on the Sabbath!
- round haircuts
- trimming your beard
- masturbating
- eating fat


Where is the outrage for these abominations? I have yet to hear a rebuttal to this as there is not a valid one. They just pick and choose which of God's laws to follow. It is the epitome of hypocrisy. I welcome responses from any Christians out there...any takers? Why is the unequivocal word of God read selectively?

originally posted by: WP4YT
How is it people can divorce when they are older and have had kids, proclaiming they are fully gay now, if they are born that way and not a choice.

Some people fight being gay and hide it from themselves and others. Some people think that if they act straight, they can become straight. Some people are just afraid of being openly gay and hide it by getting married and having kids.

originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

My mum said the same thing in back 1983 when the Labor government came to power in New Zealand.

I'm surprised you're not in your bunker awaiting the impending doom for Sep 23d.

That's just ridiculous hyperbole.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Great post and thread.
It's great to see another person who sees things the way they are and isn't afraid to speak up.
There's too many people now who are too scared and ashamed to say what they really think and feel, because there's another group of people who are pushing these agendas on everyone, and the moment you speak up you are attacked.

It's the height of hypocrisy. Demanding equality and rights, but then attacking those for exercising their rights just because you disagree with what they are saying.


It's a very simple matter actually.
Our reproductive organs are just that, our reproductive organs. You do not need to look at scripture and God to know this. You do not need God to tell you that homosexuality is not natural, is not normal.
My penis is not intended to be inserted into another mans backside. It is, besides for the release of waste ie urine, to reproduce with the female of our species.


Our societies are so corrupt though, so morally bankrupt, that the compass isn't just pointing the wrong way, it's completely been destroyed.

One thing God does teach is, that Satan is cunning and will lead you astray.


Now..how cunning is it to lead people astray, by actually having them believe that they are doing the right thing?

Because, in reality, by treating people good, nice, etc, by being a good person, you are actually doing the right thing.
But you are doing it with the wrong intentions.


Of course there's those who don't believe in God, and that's fine, I'm not going to argue for or against that. That's their personal choice, and good luck with that.
But I've seen enough, and know enough, to know that God exists. I don't need to discuss that point with pseudo wannabe intellectuals on the Internet. I could give many examples from my own life, and the lives of family and friends around me..but I wont bother because in a forum like this, well, you see the sort of responses you thread has got, so it's a waste of time and bandwidth typing that stuff for these types of people.

Their hypocrisy is amazing though. Almost laughable. And it does them a great disservice.
You can already see some of the responses in this thread before my post, trash talking religion and God.

Yet these same people will turn around in the same breath and condemn you and judge you for not accepting homosexuality as normal, and attack you for apparently not agreeing that these people should have equal rights.

They want equal rights for a minority group, but then will attack others for exercising their rights.

And the saddest part, and biggest indication of just how far gone and lost and beyond repair our society and world is, is that this is what is accepted as normal behavior and the majority do not challenge it.
Those that do are attacked and abused for having a different view or belief.


Then you have the wannabe intellectuals like the first guy to reply, whose response was to go out on a tangent and distract from what you are saying by talking about other issues and trying to paint Christians as bad, basically trying to turn the tables on you.
This is just another sad pathetic tactic they use to bring you down.

So much for equality and equal rights and all that huh?

It's only for them, and for people who agree with them and their views.


With enough conditioning and a big enough push by the corporate media and Hollywood, these people will also be arguing for the legalization of inter-species marriages(ie bestiality).
Because what's told them is normal, is what they will accept as being normal.
They are on ATS pretending to be, because they think they are free spirits, free open minded people.
But in reality they are sheep. Brainwashed indoctrinated fools who can't see the carrot being held in front of their faces leading them in whatever direction their puppet masters want them to go in.

Our world is beyond repair.

When a young person decides they are gay, it is not for sexual reasons, but likely because they like doing what the other sex does for fun. For example, a girl who is interested in playing with Tonka trucks and watching action movies or a guy who is interested in playing with dolls and how he dresses. Things like this have nothing to do with sex when it comes to being gay or identifying as a different gender at that early of an age.

Also, the brain of a homosexual male matches the brain of a straight female. The same thing for the other way around. The psychology of being gay has a lot less to do with sex than you think O.P.

Even gay relationships are relationships, and they have more to them than sex. There are countless other things people do in a relationship besides having sex. Men who are gay may find that there are a myriad of reasons they get along better with other men in relationships than other women.

How about....

we stop looking at human beings as male, female and all the other genders possible,
and just look at them
as human beings. O_O

That way it won't hurt any one else's feelings if one human loves another human.
They'll just see love and happiness and maybe, hopefully, get a happy feeling in their hearts for the ones feeling and living and knowing love.

What a concept!!!!

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Or maybe they just want to be treated as equal people? You know, have equal hospital visitation rights, equal inheritance rights, equal rights during divorces, be able to get their significant others on their insurance plans, etc.

Also, there's the anti-LGBT violence, bullying and "shaming" that goes on. Maybe they just want to be safe to live their lives without having to worry about those threats?

All of those rights can be granted without having to re-define marriage.