Refugees destroy their own asylum in Germany

originally posted by: stosh64
Why are all the 'refugees' young, fighting age men?

Just the opposite of most refugees fleeing a warzone.

Usually women, children and elderly are the ones fleeing.

As I see it, there are two main forces in Syria: Assad and IS.
What should a man decide to join if he doesn't want to side with either? It is a war. The person will be drawn if he stays. So he flees.

Do you have to stay in a war?

a reply to: MeanMinistry

As*holes are everywhere, of course are some in the crowd of refugees.

Usually the refugees are mixed with whoever was in the same train coming in - and then it might happen that there are sunnites and shiites on the same floor in the residency.
Things happen.
It escalates. Police comes, not to shoot everyone, but to restore peace.

a reply to: grainofsand

Yeah, just... lets close the borders and the refugees might take camp or something..

How low would we be sunken, how far away from humanitariaty?


They are coming. Ordering our soldiers and policemen to be brutal to them to drive them away - we have evolved beyond that point. They need help - we offer help.

If your country decided to stay away, I won't say another word, I said enough about that attitude.

A hint: try to up the inspections and bordercontrols on your ferries. In Kiel, there are hundreds every day entering (lawfully and paid for) ferries to Sweden. Why not do the same thing to the UK?

a reply to: MeanMinistry

This video reminds me of British student protests. Spooks tell them "The argument of the broken window pane is the most valuable argument in modern politics." So they break things. After things are broken politicians hastily approve more oppressive legislation. This riot may have been encouraged by provocateurs, or they may really be childish and stupid.

Breaking what you've been given is a common reaction to being given too much.

Here's a similar scene. Where are the women in these riots?

I said on another thread, and will reiterate here, that first there will be in-fighting amongst themselves on religious grounds, then there will be general fighting on cultural grounds, followed by demands for this and that like own schools mosques shops banks, then the ghettos will spring up and they will run them in the same manner as the countries they've allegedly escaped from (for some odd reason!) then the violence will spread to the indigneous population, particularly women. This cannot be solved by legislation, our culture is not their culture and vice versa. I wouldn't be suited to emigrating to Saudia Arabia or Ghana and some of these people are not suited to the West and our way of life.

Some of the Syrians may adapt, they were quite westernised anyway

Strange don't you think, how almost all the westernised middle eastern leaders have now been desposed/killed? Only Jordan left now I think

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

They won't "get" their own schools, German law prohibits this. They might open private schools, but not by public funding.

Mosques are already present, I don't know if sunnites and shiites have to visit different ones.

Shops, banks? They may open up shops, no problem. Why banks? I thought that the qu'ran doesn't permit a banking-system like we westerners know it. But private operated banks of any kind, why not?

Ghettos.. There you are touching a sensible, difficult point. We would very much like to not have them - already we do have them and they are not a very pleasing area, especially for the people living there. BUT, these poorer communities are nothing new, they exist in every single country or foreign city I have ever visited. At least police has to be present there.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Well its good they won't have their own schools paid for out of the public purse

My point was that once it starts down that route they are essentially segregating themselves. If they have their own shops banks schools colleges (like we do here in the UK) there is no need for integration and the ghettos start to form and then follows their own legal system, dealing with problems internally.

Of course we all have our poor, I'm one of them! lol but integration is the key and keep the religion at home

originally posted by: MeanMinistry
@smurfy: I presented it now because.. i had the time, i found it recently, im a new member. Is this enough? Second, i dont know what difference you mean. Im not an english speaking native, maybe there are some errors?

Meanministry, first, my apologies if I was rude.I recognize it was not polite (specially for a new member).

Now, let me explain my doubts about your intentions.
First you're in Germany and you write in English and you couldn't notice like smurf said:

originally posted by: smurfy
why is there so much difference in the English between the first and second paragraph?

Second, you presented the thread like it has happening now:

originally posted by: MeanMinistry
At this evening the police get attacked
[..]
Ten refugees and four policemen where injured at this evening.
The event was just covered as a side note in the German MSM.
For me its a sign that if this goes on,[..]

And it wasn't.

Third, since your location is Germany, I don't believe that, and let me use your words: «i found it recently», because if something like this, (your description:police getting attacked;people get attacked;building get destroyed;Ten refugees and four policemen where injured) wasn't noticed by you in MSM at your location when it happened, I found it completely unlikely or impossible.

Also is very difficult to believe you didn't had time to post it before, because you posted at ATS in previous days: 19 and 21 August and 6 of September.

Mistakes happen, we all do it. Let's learn and do better.
Have a nice day

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Does it help that one of the first things being organized for a registered refugee in Germany is to have a language course?
I know, not everyone will take part in this, and not for everyone there is a place right away.

But I think that trying is better than resigning, so we try to build many bridges to integrate them.

a reply to: ManFromEurope

We organise that here not every time though unfortunately. I worked briefly for an Asian charity which specialised in Engish for Speakers of other Languages. They had to attend the course for 6 weeks...most came once and disappeared into the community. The women never came

a reply to: stosh64

Well, as a citizen of the country that this refugees have been passing trough, i can say that there are definitely a lot of children and women. For some reason, most people are trying to present as if there are only young men among them which is hardly true. As a matter of fact, I can't recall seeing that many young men that are capable of fighting. Most of them are middle age men with children and women.

But hey, you will believe what you want to believe in.

a reply to: Nikola014

Your observations don't appear to match the facts.

The latest report from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) reveals that the human wave from the Middle East crashing into Europe is made up overwhelmingly of adult males.

thefederalist.com...

a reply to: MeanMinistry

Religious ideologies aside if they cannot behave in an orderly fashion and follow the law of the land then they should not be allowed entry in the first place. Send the culprits responsible directly back to where they came from and let them riot to there hearts content would be my thinking.

a reply to: Danton

Well, i'm speaking from my own experience, and not from what some organization is reporting. I have no reason to tell false info's unlike our buddies at the MSM and EU.

So, don't tell me it's a fact just because someone is reporting something, unless you have actually seen those people yourself.

a reply to: Nikola014

The UN was the source I quoted and they have been big advocates for the migrants. If you look at the data of migrants that have already been processed their figures if anything understate the percentage of male adults. Look I believe you saw what you saw but you certainly didn't see every migrant heading to the EU and only saw a small sample.

a reply to: MeanMinistry

Wrong choice by 'Merkel' and she could well live to regret her decision.

All those econimical migrants need to be sent home, they will only cause problems.

Trusting the moslem is done at the peril of those who accommodate them. >TAQIYYA

originally posted by: TheInhumanCentipede
Trusting the moslem is done at the peril of those who accommodate them. >TAQIYYA

Except thos e are in the hadiths and not the Quran itself if i remember correctly from what ive read.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
I said on another thread, and will reiterate here, that first there will be in-fighting amongst themselves on religious grounds, then there will be general fighting on cultural grounds, followed by demands for this and that like own schools mosques shops banks, then the ghettos will spring up and they will run them in the same manner as the countries they've allegedly escaped from (for some odd reason!) then the violence will spread to the indigneous population, particularly women. This cannot be solved by legislation, our culture is not their culture and vice versa. I wouldn't be suited to emigrating to Saudia Arabia or Ghana and some of these people are not suited to the West and our way of life.

Some of the Syrians may adapt, they were quite westernised anyway

Strange don't you think, how almost all the westernised middle eastern leaders have now been desposed/killed? Only Jordan left now I think

The violence towards women has already started in Germany and Sweden, it is an epidemic, and the Police and press are suppressing it because the politicians do not want to legitimise anti-immigrant feelings.

However, when a 6 year old girl is raped in a park in broad daylight, and the poor victims are brushed under the carpet for political motives, then I know which side of the fence I am making my camp in, and it isn't the one that the pathetic hand-wringing left wing liberal minded d*ckheads want to build for us all.

This is going to end with extreme violence, because like it or not the vast majority of ALL EU countries DO NOT want this invasion, and the increase in violence against them, and the ignoring of it by shameless politicians and idiots from the left will only be tolerated for so long before there really are rivers of blood in the streets.

It is inevitable, and I hope that when the left wing idiots get to see the reality of what these people are going to bring with them - I hope they apologise - but I won't hold my breath, it will all probably be our fault for not bending over that little bit further so they could stick it to us even deeper.