false prophet Ronald Weinland's Two New Failed and False Prophecies

Ronald Weinland's next lie is to try to convince the PKGers that the Great Tribulation will either not occur or it will be very delayed.

According to the chart given out to PKG members, the Great Tribulation is scheduled to start in early November of 2015.

Somewhere around November 7th, 8th, or 9th, the reason for the ambiguity is that the calculations Ron used to compute these dates are in fact wrong. The math is wrong. So we give Ron some leeway.

But Ron KNOWS ALREADY that NOTHING is going to happen this November. So he has been working on coming up with some excuse.

Two possible scenarios Ron may use....
1) Ron will attempt to use the book of Jonah. He will say, see, nothing happened to Nineva! So nothing may happen now.
Ron will try to explain how the book of Jonah was a prophecy that failed. So the Great Tribulation will also fail.
(the book of Jonah is not a prophetic book, so Ron's argument is faulty, I will explain it at another time)

2) Ron may invoke the Sodom and Gomorrah account. If Sodom/Gomorrah had the minimum amount of righteous people dwelling in it, they would have been spared. Ron will then explain that PKGers being around the world will cancel out the Great Tribulation.

But the situation is real simple. Ronald Weinland and his wife are false prophets.

PROOFS THAT RONALD WEINLAND IS A FALSE PROPHET….

These are all from Ron’s own mouth.

1) Ron said he was a false prophet if the prophecies he spoke didn’t come to pass. They didn’t. He is a false prophet.

2) Ron said he was blind and could not see prophetically. Zero fulfilled prophecies that he spoke, testify to this.

3) Ron said that the 3 1/2 days of death of the Two Witnesses was spiritual. So according to Ron, both he and Laura are spiritually dead Christians. Spiritually dead Christians do not have salvation.

4) Ron said that the 5 months of torment applied to the “persecution” of PKG. According to the bible, only the “unsealed” are tormented for 5 months, “unsealed” people are people without the Holy Spirit. Thus Ron said that PKGers do not have the Holy Spirit.

So basically, from Ron’s own mouth, he is a false prophet, a blind man leading the blind, is spiritually dead, and does not have the Holy Spirit.

And yet these people still follow him???????????????????????????? How sad.

According to Ron, the Great Tribulation starts this Sunday, November 8th, 2015.

Since he is a false prophet, this will not happen.

Ron does not believe anything will happen either (ie he doesn't believe his own prophecy). He is already making excuses without any justification whatsoever. He has done this in this past, multiple times, his followers stuck with him. It is a shame really, because it is and should be easy to prove whether Ron is who he says he is. The proof has been overwhelming, Ron simply is not who he says he is, he is self deceived, and has deceived followers supporting him.

Some will leave PKG this weekend, and wake up, I fear most will stay with him and that is sad.

a reply to: SirPaulMuaddib

I agree he's a false prophet, but that doesn't mean the Trib couldn't start this weekend. Just because a false prophet predicts a thing is no deterrent to that thing happening.

The day the event actually happens (or begins) there will have been at least some false prophet somewhere standing there with his sandwich board making a false prediction ... just like the proverbial broken clock.

I agree with what you're saying.

In this case however, there are other things which are supposed to have happened, which have not.

For example, there is no False Prophet in place. THE False Prophet, the one that performs miracles and calls down fire from heaven. He is not here yet. So, unless he appears tomorrow, then I think it is safe to say that Sunday is not the day the Great Tribulation happens. The False Prophet doesn't just appear on the scene for the 1260 days of the tribulation. Both he and the Beast Leader, exist and operate before the Great Tribulation begins.

Notice this....
Rev 13:4 ... and they worshipped the beast....
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

It says he CONTINUES for 1260 MORE DAYS, in other words the 1260 days are his FINAL days, but not the only days. So they both (Beast Leader and False Prophet) exist for some amount of time before the final 1260 days. How long? The bible is silent on that part it appears.


But yes, otherwise, I agree with you 100%.

It is past sunset, Jerusalem time. All prophetic timing are based off Jerusalem times. As such, the Great Tribulation should have started. Otherwise why bother to call it the 1260 days, If nothing is going to happen the first day?

No, nothing happened for the simple reason that Ronald Weinland is a false prophet and is clueless about the bible.

a reply to: SirPaulMuaddib

no one knows the futreu unlesse you time travel

Ron has stated that the Great Tribulation began this Nov. 8th of 2015.

Obviously this is completely false, as nothing happened on that day or since. Now the question is, does the bible explicitly say anything is going to happen on the 1st day of the Great Tribulation. Not explicitly that I can tell...but it is implied that it will begin with "a bang" as the saying goes. Now if somebody has bible scriptures that show something explicit happens on the 1st day, then please do post it. I do not recall anything specific happening except it is of course the start of the Great Tribulation, and this implies that something catastrophic will happen on day #1. But as far as this being explicitly stated, I'm not sure that it is.

HOWEVER....

The bible IS EXPLICIT on what happens 30 DAYS BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION STARTS.

This is the mile marker we should look for, to determine when in fact the end has come. This is commonly known as the 1290 days prophecy. 1290 days before Christ Returns, and 30 days prior to the start of the Great Tribulation an event happens.

Dan 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

At this point in time, armies surround Jerusalem, the daily sacrifice is halted, and an abomination is set up in the holy place. An "abomination" is a common Jewish term for an idol. This idol is set up in the holy place (which may or may not be a full blown temple). This event will be world wide news, it will not happen in the dark, or secretly, it will be an "explosive" event, which will ignite the Great Tribulation.

THIS EVENT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

Ron is a false prophet, he has no clue about the bible, doesn't have a clue about bible prophecy, is not one of the Two Witnesses, is a false apostle, false teacher, a thief of God's tithes, and is a convicted tax felon.

9 November 2015 is pretty close for a Messiah date. It's way closer than Pentecost 2019.

Zech 4:11 is wholly accurate. There are two anointed sons ... of the whole earth who stand by Messiah. They are not the two witnesses in Revelation. The books of Revelation and John run sort-of in parallel with Revelation providing the time data, usually through astronomical references, and John providing the human story of the ascent of the Messiah from ordinary person to ... well, the Messiah. Both books are prophecies intended for all Abramic traditions. The two witnesses in Revelation are the planets Mercury and Saturn next to the sun in Libra, representing justice, hence the fire references. The sun overtakes both by the Feast of Saturnalia around 22-25 December and are therefore considered dead. People celebrate with gifts while the bodies remain 'in the street' - the ecliptic path.

The Messiah is here. Only a short while to his revelation.

a reply to: PraeterLambo
Ah, TheLamb. You're back again.

DISRAELI, do you think the bible is explicit as to what happens on the first day of the Great Tribulation?

(a lot is implied of course, and I think that in itself is enough to say it starts with a big bang)

a reply to: SirPaulMuaddib
Daniel ch11 effectively defines the beginning of the tribulation as the moment of "causing the offerings to cease and setting up the abomination". Jesus in Matthew ch24 defines it as beginning with the abomination.
In other words, something which blocks off and inhibits worship of the true God, while simultaneously offering an idolatrous substitute (which is what "abomination" means).
That would begin the tribulation of the church in the sense of persecution for the faith.
So that would be a decisive moment.
I'm not convinced that the Bible makes it a moment with a predictable date. The best we can hope for is to recognise it when it comes.

As stated accurately in the title....Ronald Weinland is a false prophet, and his latest 2 prophecies have failed to come to pass

Failures...
1) Ron's prophecy about 70,000 former members of the WWCoG, he said 7,000 would die, and 63,000 would flock to his church, and that this would be fulfilled by Nov. 8th, 2015. This was a false prophecy and did not happen. Ron is trying to revamp this prophecy but that's blasphemy, a prophecy either comes from God and is true or it does not and the man is a false prophet

2) Ron said that the Great Tribulation would start Nov. 8th, 2015. Nothing happened. This too is also a false prophecy and is more proof that Ron is a false prophet.

August 21 2015
“Just because I am a prophet does not mean I understand prophecies. ” Ronald Weinland


Yes, Ron actually said this!!!! In one of his blog posts.

Can you believe that he still has followers after saying stuff like this?

The fact is, he DOES NOT understand bible prophecy, the proof is in the fact that ZERO percent of anything he said came true. Nothing he said came true, nothing he has done is a fulfillment of any prophecy.

The only prophecy he's fulfilled so far is that of false prophets deceiving the many.

a reply to: SirPaulMuaddib

I notice his old staunch supporters who preached destruction on us don't come back anymore. They must be really screwed up by now. On the other hand maybe they actually got saved and found Jesus was not the one Ron preached about.

Careful about accusing false prophets because the label is misunderstood. Knowing how to read creates prophecy not writing it.
While reading a while ago an article surfaced which has been searched for numerous times since to no avail. The article was read about a decade ago which has disappeared in all of its forms. About a prophet that would teach the world unheard of knowledge that would change the civilization instantainiously who would die a cruel death.
Known now is the fact that information was about the false prophet who did not actually teach anything.
The false prophet learned a lot doing a lot of work in research. Information that got into the hands and heads of murderers who violently raped before murdering the very beautiful lady with a false name.

They are doing now with the false prophets work what the lady did not even consider let alone think about.

a reply to: stosh64

I asked for and received a FREE COPY of his book (too)... gleaned it over in less than one hour...
and gave it to the spouse to read if she cared to do so


I thought it would be a keepsake, the interpretations are the same Rome/Pope/AC BS from the Darby BS meme

I wanted a public record that the TWO Witnesses and the Tribulation were disclosed by this false profit person
the book is in the manila envelope it was mailed in so it should keep as well as the 1880 Riggs Bank Edition of the Works of Shakespeare with awesome litho prints protected by onion-skin as a gift to the well-to-do account holders of a Million Dollar in Deposits Bank (I guess 1Mill was big news back in the late 19th century)

I have a pretty small & weird collection of books I had decided to stash away...Stranger in a Strange Land is another Title I casched

a reply to: SirPaulMuaddib

Weinland is religious rather than Christian. But even then he's the most wrong religious nutter in the recent years. It seems he can't win either way.

I do love how he deludes himself even. 2+2=4, unless it really meant 5, until next month when in fact God reveals 2+2 actually = 6..That is until the next 'revelation'.

I mentioned a few posts back that Ronald Weinland would use the Jonah defense as an excuse for failed prophecy, but the book of Jonah is not a prophetic book. Ron is doing this now in his sermons, in his new book there will be chapter devoted to this excuse.

What do I mean when I say Jonah is NOT a prophetic book?

The book of Ezekiel is a prophetic book, “prophesy” (verb form) is from H5012, it means to speak with inspiration (of Holy Spirit) or to predict (by power of Holy Spirit). It is used 36 times in this one book.

Phrases like “Eze 11:4 Therefore prophesy against them, prophesy, O son of man. ” are used throughout book. It is a prophetic book, all the prophecies conclude with the Temple and a millennial setting.

I personally do not believe prophecies are conditional. What I mean is that there are accounts in the bible where God is making a judgment (NOT a prophecy) against a person, and that person repents and then God relents on His judgment that He was going to execute upon this person. Not everything God says is automatically a “prophecy”. You have to carefully read the text.

NOW NOTICE! Nowhere in Jonah, is Jonah told to prophesy against Ninevah!

Jonah is told to “cry” (announce, preach, indict, call out, cry against) Ninevah about her sins. NOT PROPHESY.
Before “fish”
Jon 1:2 Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry(H7121) against it; for their wickedness is come up before me.
After “fish” vomits him out
Jon 3:2 Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach(H7121) unto it the preaching that I bid thee.

IT WAS A JUDGMENT AGAINST NINEVAH, which was conditional if they repented.

Nowhere is the word “prophesy”(H5012) used in Jonah at all, ONLY “cry”(H7121) is used.

Jonah is a book about a judgment that God was going to perform upon Ninevah if they didn’t repent, they did, God relented.

Ron the thief said it’s not about doing things right away……

What kind of moronic statement is that? Not right away????????? The mind dazzles at such a moronic stance.

The reason for saying this, is of course, Ron knows 100% that he is completely false, and doesn’t want to do anything right away because he can’t, because he’s false, and has no power, nor will be given any power.

Ron waffled all over the place, things could happen in the last 6 months, in the last week, maybe AFTER the Tribulation is over and during the so called 50 days (never mind that the bible says Christ returns on the last day of the 1260 days). So not only is Ron going to be “late” doing anything, he has CHRIST HIMSELF being lax about His duty which is returning on the last day of the 1260 days.

NOTHING RON SAID CAME TRUE, NOTHING HE SAID WILL EVER COME TRUE.