Syrian Crises: Putin on IS and Assad Full interview

As we've being hearing the propaganda flooding the mainstream media regrading the escalating crises in Syria and interesting enough I stumbled across some very interesting news on the issue:

Assad in a full interview with RT regarding the crises and he had this to say:

‘West crying for refugees with one eye, aiming gun with the other’ – Assad (FULL INTERVIEW)

Regarding the refugee crisis, I will say now that Western dealing in the Western propaganda recently, mainly during the last week, regardless of the accusation that those refugees are fleeing the Syrian government, but they call it regime, of course. Actually, it’s like the West now is crying for the refugees with one eye and aiming at them with a machine gun with the second one, because actually those refugees left Syria because of the terrorism, mainly because of the terrorists and because of the killing, and second because of the results of terrorism. When you have terrorism, and you have the destruction of the infrastructure, you won’t have the basic needs of living, so many people leave because of the terrorism and because they want to earn their living somewhere in this world. So, the West is crying for them, and the West is supporting terrorists since the beginning of the crisis when it said that this was a peaceful uprising, when they said later it’s moderate opposition, and now they say there is terrorism like al-Nusra and ISIS, but because of the Syrian state or the Syrian regime or the Syrian president. So, as long as they follow this propaganda, they will have more refugees.

So, it’s not about that Europe didn’t accept them or embrace them as refugees, it’s about not dealing with the cause. If you are worried about them, stop supporting terrorists. That’s what we think regarding the crisis. This is the core of the whole issue of refugees.

Assad thinks the West is the cause behind the escalating Syrian crises making assertions that the West is "supporting terrorists". Putin on the other hand is more focused on dealing directly with IS and seems to show some genuine concern over recent announcements by IS of their intentions to spread towards Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem.

Putin: ISIS has designs on Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem, endangers Europe & Russia

The situation is very serious, Putin said, adding that Moscow is very worried that IS terrorists are publicly announcing their designs on Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem. The jihadists also plan to spread their activities to Europe, Russia, central and southeastern Asia.

Putin continues with a rather troubling statement, especially the last bit (balded). Who is Putin lashing at?

"Simple common sense, responsibility for global and regional safety require uniting efforts of the international community [to fight] such a threat. It is necessary to set aside geopolitical ambitions, drop so-called double standards, the policy of direct or indirect use of separate terrorist groups for achieving own goals, including removing the governments and regimes."

Russia is supporting the Syrian government in its fight against terrorism and will continue its support, Putin said.

"We give technical-military support to Damascus and will continue doing it," he said. "And we call on other countries to join us in this."

Well, it seems Assad is pointing the finger towards the West regrading the escalations, while Russia is committed to assisting the Assad's regime, with the prime focus of defeating IS. But Putin asks that other countries should and in his own wards "...set aside geopolitical ambitions, drop so-called double standards, the policy of direct or indirect use of separate terrorist groups for achieving own goals, including removing the governments and regimes."

Not sure who Putin is directing that last line to, as the assertions carry a lot of meaning to it and is open for discussion. However, it is worth the mention that the propaganda has surely heated up over the last couple of weeks, well since Russia made thier move to aid the Assad regime against IS, me thinks.

What are you folks views on this matter and who do you think is really to be blame for the Syrian Crises?

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

yeah i rather hear it from those politicians themselves than from corrupt and controlled MSM.

it often appeats the "mad men" as MSM call them have more sense and honesty than our dear western leaders.

originally posted by: anticitizen
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

yeah i rather hear it from those politicians themselves than from corrupt and controlled MSM.

it often appeats the "mad men" as MSM call them have more sense and honesty than our dear western leaders.

I couldn't agree more, the "mad men" so to speak seem to make a lot of sense, that's Assad and Putin. The thing that really strikes me here is, the kind of assertions most have on here are more or less been validated by both the Kremlin leader and Assad himself.

Whether it's propaganda or the truth, we should see how the events will unfold in the coming weeks.

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Assad is on the verge of collapse, controlling only 10%-20% of Syria with the remainder under FSA or ISIS control. By entering Syria and "backing" Assad Russia will be in a position to either keep Assad in power or, if Assad is pushed out, have leverage on who takes control after Assad.

In other words a Russian occupation of Syria to secure its place in the middle East.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Assad is on the verge of collapse, controlling only 10%-20% of Syria with the remainder under FSA or ISIS control. By entering Syria and "backing" Assad Russia will be in a position to either keep Assad in power or, if Assad is pushed out, have leverage on who takes control after Assad.

In other words a Russian occupation of Syria to secure its place in the middle East.

More Russia bashing. XCathdra it's becoming an obsession. I'd love to see what you dream about lol.............. Nukes hitting the Kremlin no doubt. Sorry to be cheeky but it does appear to be an obsession.

More to the point Russia's involvement is not an "occupation." They are there at the request of Assad to help fight off terrorists that are attacking Syria from the UAE and Saudi Arabia, with a bit of backing from the USA and Britain of course. Good on the Russians, if they can protect one single village of Christians, Yazidis, Alawhtes, etc and preserve their survival in one of the original Christian states then hats off to them.

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Its times like these that Putin does come across as a great Statesman and seems to take the bull by the horns to deal with issues that the Western Government's dance around. And then he goes and ruins it all by being a nincompoop on other issues!

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Yes it's always intellectually honest when opposing sides blame eachother.

I almost cried with laughter the other day when the State Dept. basically blamed Assad for the rise of ISIS, do the idiots in the U.S. gov. actually believe their own crap?

Saudi Arabia and Quatar. Wahabi is a Sunni Muslim doctrine that have a long tradition of cooperation with the house of Saud. Still amazed that Russia have not repaid the terror attacks in Russia ordered by Bandar Bush.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Assad is on the verge of collapse, controlling only 10%-20% of Syria with the remainder under FSA or ISIS control. By entering Syria and "backing" Assad Russia will be in a position to either keep Assad in power or, if Assad is pushed out, have leverage on who takes control after Assad.

In other words a Russian occupation of Syria to secure its place in the middle East.

True, Russia has it's motives as well, and the same can be said about the US, every body wants a piece of the pie. The Refugee Crises, has really put things in the spot light.

Assad did make a statement on RT of his intentions to quite should the situation worsens any further.

And if it's also true that IS, is really the brain-child of US Israel regime than there is high potential that tensions will grow and who knows what comes off of this if the blame game continues.

First of all Syria is literally fighting for its survival because the ISIS madmen will exterminate the Shia even before the Christians.


As for Western leaders there are none with any long term humanity based strategic vision they are ALL going on direct orders from some sinister NATO long term plot to destabilize Arab countries that spell ISIS and ISIL

IRAQ
SYRIA
SOMOLIA
IRAN
LEBANON
LIBYA
SUDAN

General Wesley Clark Asked About 7 Country War Plan


If you people can't see this ( YOU'VE BEEN CLEARY TOLD AND WARNED) THEN YOURE BLIND AND DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET

originally posted by: LittleByLittle
Still amazed that Russia have not repaid the terror attacks in Russia ordered by Bandar Bush.

Revenge is a dish best served cold

originally posted by: Willtell
First of all Syria is literally fighting for its survival because the ISIS madmen will exterminate the Shia even before the Christians.


As for Western leaders there are none with any long term humanity based strategic vision they are ALL going on direct orders from some sinister NATO long term plot to destabilize Arab countries that spell ISIS and ISIL

IRAQ
SYRIA
SOMOLIA
IRAN
LEBANON
LIBYA
SUDAN

General Wesley Clark Asked About 7 Country War Plan


If you people can't see this ( YOU'VE BEEN CLEARY TOLD AND WARNED) THEN YOURE BLIND AND DESERVE EVERYTHING YOU GET

Ok that's freakish, thanks for sharing the video..off to watch. That's is the most devilish plan if it is indeed true.

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Assad is on the verge of collapse, controlling only 10%-20% of Syria with the remainder under FSA or ISIS control. By entering Syria and "backing" Assad Russia will be in a position to either keep Assad in power or, if Assad is pushed out, have leverage on who takes control after Assad.

In other words a Russian occupation of Syria to secure its place in the middle East.

More Russia bashing. XCathdra it's becoming an obsession. I'd love to see what you dream about lol.............. Nukes hitting the Kremlin no doubt.

Sorry to be cheeky but it does appear to be an obsession.

More to the point Russia's involvement is not an "occupation." They are there at the request of Assad to help fight off terrorists that are attacking Syria from the UAE and Saudi Arabia, with a bit of backing from the USA and Britain of course. Good on the Russians, if they can protect one single village of Christians, Yazidis, Alawhtes, etc and preserve their survival in one of the original Christian states then hats off to them.

And you don't think that Putin sees an opportunity in that? What evidence do you have that Putin is so benevolent?

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Assad is on the verge of collapse, controlling only 10%-20% of Syria with the remainder under FSA or ISIS control. By entering Syria and "backing" Assad Russia will be in a position to either keep Assad in power or, if Assad is pushed out, have leverage on who takes control after Assad.

In other words a Russian occupation of Syria to secure its place in the middle East.

More Russia bashing. XCathdra it's becoming an obsession. I'd love to see what you dream about lol.............. Nukes hitting the Kremlin no doubt.

Sorry to be cheeky but it does appear to be an obsession.

More to the point Russia's involvement is not an "occupation." They are there at the request of Assad to help fight off terrorists that are attacking Syria from the UAE and Saudi Arabia, with a bit of backing from the USA and Britain of course. Good on the Russians, if they can protect one single village of Christians, Yazidis, Alawhtes, etc and preserve their survival in one of the original Christian states then hats off to them.

Hahha lol I agree with you!
Never gonna happen, but the war will continue and ISIL will be bombed to dust over time as various governments contribute to the war against them.

Lets not forget turning various countries against each other fueling thier hatred against each other.

Be on the look out for the next war as this one may die out like a wave losing momentum and the same situation may arise.

Rinse repeat again and again until enemy resourses are depleted and mission accomplished.

Its sad logic but it appears to be the basic feed the carrot to a horse that cant reach it stratagey.

a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Is it true?

Listen to the questioner when he says “it’s happening right now” before our eyes…

Clark backtracks a bit because spilling the beans can be dangerous.

But you see they don’t care about the truth being known to a few because they have the most and many under their spell: the death…dumb…and the blind.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Interesting. I hadn't thought of it from that angle.

It's a lot to expect of a person to understand all of this. This is why we have government to handle military and diplomatic matters. Not everybody can spare the time to learn the history and rules. And even if somebody does have the time, there're a million other things they can use that time for instead.

My opinion is my own and not actionable or authorative. I simply feel that whole region is a f*** zone. You go in there and you get f******. So if I had a policy it would be hands off. Treat it like somebody with Ebola. Keep your distance. Don't get chummy with it. Any contact is strictly watched.

But frankly the world doesn't work that way. We cant lock ourselves away in bunkers and plug our ears and close our eyes and say "I can't hear you, see you or otherwise note your presence!" One way or another what happens elsewhere will get here. The world gets smaller every day too. It's complicated and messy--and scary honestly.

I posted on another thread this info but think it worth repeating here ...

Russia proposed more than three years ago that Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, could step down as part of a peace deal, according to a senior negotiator involved in back-channel discussions at the time.

Former Finnish president and Nobel peace prize laureate Martti Ahtisaari said western powers failed to seize on the proposal. Since it was made, in 2012, tens of thousands of people have been killed and millions uprooted, causing the world’s gravest refugee crisis since the second world war.

Ahtisaari held talks with envoys from the five permanent members of the UN security council in February 2012. He said that during those discussions, the Russian ambassador, Vitaly Churkin, laid out a three-point plan, which included a proposal for Assad to cede power at some point after peace talks had started between the regime and the opposition.

But he said that the US, Britain and France were so convinced that the Syrian dictator was about to fall, they ignored the proposal.

“It was an opportunity lost in 2012,” Ahtisaari said in an interview.

russia-insider.com...

Like the Iran deal or the chemical weapons deal Russia has contributed positively ,diplomatically in these conflicts . If they have determined to bring some guns to the table to defeat ISIS ten who could possibly be against that . Remember Bush saying if you are not with us then you are with the terrorist . Time for other nations to get on board this real effort and do their part .