Never Again Is "Now" - The Time To Act Is Now

a reply to: infolurker

They don't need to mark them, they at least allow the Christians to pay a tax and it may save them.
www.theatlantic.com...

Following takfiri doctrine, the Islamic State is committed to purifying the world by killing vast numbers of people. The lack of objective reporting from its territory makes the true extent of the slaughter unknowable, but social-media posts from the region suggest that individual executions happen more or less continually, and mass executions every few weeks. Muslim “apostates” are the most common victims. Exempted from automatic execution, it appears, are Christians who do not resist their new government.

ISIS kills anyone and everyone they don't agree with, you just don't want to drop the poor Christians and accept they are getting the same treatment as everyone else.

If you truly cared we wouldn't be selecting who we are rescuing, I am for rescuing them all, not putting some above others when they are all at risk.

Go find a charity that isn't putting some life's over others.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: pavil

So why can't isis slip people in saying they are Christian?

I still said you vett them, the process will get most of them. Luckily it seems ISIS supporters are the religious equvilent of meth and crackheads ie; pretty easy to find them out.

Do you let 99 innocents die because 1 of them may be a wolf?

a reply to: pavil

Luckily it seems ISIS supporters are the religious equvilent of meth and crackheads ie; pretty easy to find them out.

Then it works both ways, would be easy to find period.

Refuges all need help, we need to stop acting like some life's are worth more then others based on what imaginary god they pray to.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Reallyfolks

He gets to assume my stance on things and that is game set match?

Wow that must be easy!

I defend the reason they come over but have always said I want them documented, just because seeker wants to assume differently doesn't make it so.

I have also seen your posts on illegals flooding the US and if I had the inclination to search your posts and copy and paste , I'm pretty certain your own words would make his case.

a reply to: Sremmos80

Well,

I will donate my own money helping those I believe need it the most.

You have no need to be hateful, go find one that you agree with. Don't trash us for assisting with our own donations those who believe are in the most need.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Do it then, find where I said I don't want them documented.

I am willing to accept they are going to come over and have said over and over again to document them, which would vet them, and tax them.

a reply to: infolurker

No hate at all, just wonder why some think others need to be saved sooner or are more important.

Also that they don't need to go through the same vetting process when they are coming from the same area.

Sure there is not hate in not supporting them all?

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: Sremmos80

Sure they need to be vetted. But until it's proven Christian militas are slaughtering Muslims, it should be pretty easy to vet them. Like it or not, the bad apples of Islam have tainted all Muslims. Muslims need to clear up the monsters in their midst.

So you would agree that back in 2014 we should have offered to taken in Muslims that were being slaughtered by Christians in central Africa?
Tens of thousands of Muslims flee Christian militias in Central African Republic
Muslims are fighting the groups that have been killing the Christians America and it's allies just need to stop arming those people.

The article says the militias formed as a response.

Djotodia’s departure weakened the former Muslim rebels, known as Seleka, who carried out deadly attacks on Christians after they grabbed power in March, prompting the birth of Christian militias called the anti-balaka, or “anti-machete” in the local Sango language. The armed vigilantes have used the power vacuum to step up assaults on Muslims

Not saying the response is right but apparently according to the article you linked. One group got sick of it and it's now grand pay back. Misguided..sure, but that's why I live by the philosophy don't start none there won't be none. The response you get might be over the top and unexpected, but eventually, you always get one.

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Do it then, find where I said I don't want them documented.

He didn't say documented, he was talking about vetting them before coming into the country. Checking out before entry that would match the treatment you support for the refugees. You know this, he was clear. Don't try to change terms

a reply to: Reallyfolks

And I said I was for reform which would put a bigger dent in the ones doing it illegally.
So find me saying I want them to do it illegally.
This isn't about people coming across our border, that is why I didn't want to answer the question because it was loaded six ways to sunday.

I am done with this, it isn't the topic and just being used to cloud the issue.
My stance is I want people to come through the right way and that we need to reform that process so more people will do it since they are going to come over anyway.

Spin the hell away.


Oh and if one set of refugees have to go through one vetting process then they all do, again regardless of what imaginary god they pray to.
Done with the thread, don't be the last to finish y'all, don't want to have to eat the waffle after this circle.

a reply to: Sremmos80

yes they do, but they are specifically targeting Christians in the area

again how many muslims are in the area and how many christaisn now compared to what there was

You can sit in denial all you want thats fine

You can be as PC as you want till they come for your head

Thats fine too

but some of us refuse to deny that theres another holocaust happening

Deny it all you want

originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Reallyfolks

And I said I was for reform which would put a bigger dent in the ones doing it illegally.
So find me saying I want them to do it illegally.
This isn't about people coming across our border, that is why I didn't want to answer the question because it was loaded six ways to sunday.

I am done with this, it isn't the topic and just being used to cloud the issue.
My stance is I want people to come through the right way and that we need to reform that process so more people will do it since they are going to come over anyway.

Spin the hell away.

Oh and if one set of refugees have to go through one vetting process then they all do, again regardless of what imaginary god they pray to.
Done with the thread, don't be the last to finish y'all, don't want to have to eat the waffle after this circle.

I love the I'm all done with this thread. Popcorn, get your popcorn.

a reply to: infolurker

Historically speaking, Christians have caused more terror throughout the world in the last 2000 years than Muslims ever had.

I think I'll take my statistical chances with Muslim refugees over Christian.

originally posted by: WCmutant
a reply to: infolurker

Historically speaking, Christians have caused more terror throughout the world in the last 2000 years than Muslims ever had.

I think I'll take my statistical chances with Muslim refugees over Christian.

Historically speaking we used to crap outdoors and use our feet to get everywhere. Does that mean we ignore current situations? Do we throw out the current day situation of indoor plumbing and automobiles when making decisions because historically we haven't used them?

I get your point but not sure basing decsions of recent events on historically is the best approach.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: infolurker

Unfortunately I think all will be revealed about your President and his administration soon enough,and this will be very unpopular on a heavily populated LGBT site but the gay marriage thing may well be the abomination that gets God involved

Nah, that would be eating shrimp. When enough people eat shrimp God will put his foot down.

originally posted by: Prezbo369
Typical......what about the non-christian refugees?

Didn't you hear? They are already being saved by the thousands. It's only the Christians who are being singled out and ignored/left behind.

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: WCmutant
a reply to: infolurker

Historically speaking, Christians have caused more terror throughout the world in the last 2000 years than Muslims ever had.

I think I'll take my statistical chances with Muslim refugees over Christian.

Historically speaking we used to crap outdoors and use our feet to get everywhere. Does that mean we ignore current situations? Do we throw out the current day situation of indoor plumbing and automobiles when making decisions because historically we haven't used them?

I get your point but not sure basing decsions of recent events on historically is the best approach.

Don't get touchy because what I said was true. The truth still prevails even if we look at the last 200 years. If I have to play favorites with the lives of someone I don't know then statistically I will pick the one who has a history of persecuting their own kind (Suni vs. Shia) and not the one that has a very long history of persecuting people that don't believe the same as them.

The current situation is that most humans are too quick to act and not very good at thinking. The last 20 years should have taught you that. But I suppose we are still under the impression that 9/11 was a total Islamic plot. Or perhaps they magically had their hands in creating the USA police and surveillance state that we currently live in?

Were the Muslims also behind the continued destruction of the US financial system under the Reagan, Bush 1, and Clinton administrations that led to the 2008 financial crisis? (That of which still hasn't been fixed.)

Is it the Muslims that fervently support these a$$clowns when they wage war on drugs and poverty only to see both increase in America? Are the Muslims behind the "fear of blacks" in America to the point that statistics prove we have a racist and broke police/judicial system?

Maybe it's statistically time to give someone the benefit of the doubt.

a reply to: WCmutant



So, let them die?

Or maybe you would like to assist in that endeavor?

Just asking as this is a rescue thread. What is your spin?

Historically speaking, in the last Century Germans fought against us in 2 World Wars.... should we not help them if they were in crisis?

Some people make me wonder what goes through their minds.

a reply to: 3n19m470

a reply to: infolurker

It shouldn't be about what religion they are save them all.