What Constitutes Greed? (And More!)

a reply to: johnwick

What exactly does the average Walmart worker produce?

a reply to: johnwick


If walmart wanted to double it's employee salaries it would fire the current bunch and find better people.
Just saying

a reply to: johnwick

That logic kills me. If Walmart paid 4 times the amount they do, there would be no point in going into skilled trades.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: johnwick

What exactly does the average Walmart worker produce?

Babies!

a reply to: Bluntone22

Ouch!

Totally not what I was thinking.

Usually the complaint leveled on behalf of the Walmart worker is used in defense of the factory floor guy who makes less than the management dude.

But really, when you think about it. All the Walmart worker does is base service with no actual skilled production involved. They have less of a stake in that sense than even the burger flipper.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Either that, or deal with the destruction and violence that will enviably occur from ignoring those in need.

Bring it. Threats are a piss poor reason to change behavior and ideologies.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Metallicus

Greed to me is the accumulation of wealth or power but at the expense of other people in a negative way.

Eg there is nothing wrong with you becoming a billionaire. As long as it was done within the law and or at the expense of other peoples life or freedom.

The Elon Musks and Richard Brandsons of the world I would not label as Greedy.

Greedy would be Bernie Madoff or The bankers responsible for the 2008 Crash or war profiteers.

Yes, but there is little fair-minded mentality.

During the French Revolution, I'll bet there were some French nobles who actually did their best to be good and kind and responsible. I'll bet it didn't save them from the guillotine when the tables turned.

In this day and age, you are either with us or against us. "Us" is whatever tribal group is seeking to take and use and abuse power to their own ends.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Either that, or deal with the destruction and violence that will enviably occur from ignoring those in need.

Bring it. Threats are a piss poor reason to change behavior and ideologies.

Rather short sighted.

The 1% are the one percent as they are out numbered 100 to 1.

Being in that group myself scares the # out me.
I hope if SHTF the mob goes after the 0.01% who have caused the problems and leave the upper middle class alone....i certainly wont stand in the way of the mob and ripping the politicians and bankers appart away.

One thing history teaches and thats if the economic sitation gets so dire the mobs riots, thats it game over!

a reply to: crazyewok

Don't kid yourself.

The real elites are encouraging this. Cloward-Piven. Look it up. They won't get caught in the crossfire. It's you and I and the rest of us here who do things the "right" way. Those of us who have a perverse need to do things on our own without the government holding our hand. We're the ones who are the golden geese for the mob, and the mob will kill us in the end to get all that we have that they think they deserve.

Then the elites come out of hiding and pick up and pieces and all that are left are the weak-willed sheep they've been controlling all along.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Metallicus

Greed to me is the accumulation of wealth or power but at the expense of other people in a negative way.

Eg there is nothing wrong with you becoming a billionaire. As long as it was done within the law and or at the expense of other peoples life or freedom.

The Elon Musks and Richard Brandsons of the world I would not label as Greedy.

Greedy would be Bernie Madoff or The bankers responsible for the 2008 Crash or war profiteers.

Yes, but there is little fair-minded mentality.

During the French Revolution, I'll bet there were some French nobles who actually did their best to be good and kind and responsible. I'll bet it didn't save them from the guillotine when the tables turned.

In this day and age, you are either with us or against us. "Us" is whatever tribal group is seeking to take and use and abuse power to their own ends.

Which is why corruption and preventing the super rich and powerful from breaking the law is vital.

As soon as you let it slide and the economic situation gets dire enough....poof..... we are all screwed.
Innocents get killed along side the guilty.


To stop that you dont need heavy socialism or libral policys.

Just ENFORCE the laws we have equally across the board. And root out crony capitalism.

Make sure the economy is growing and full of opportunities.

A healthy economy = happy people.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: crazyewok

Don't kid yourself.

The real elites are encouraging this. Cloward-Piven. Look it up. They won't get caught in the crossfire. It's you and I and the rest of us here who do things the "right" way. Those of us who have a perverse need to do things on our own without the government holding our hand. We're the ones who are the golden geese for the mob, and the mob will kill us in the end to get all that we have that they think they deserve.

Then the elites come out of hiding and pick up and pieces and all that are left are the weak-willed sheep they've been controlling all along.

And that does scare me.

If and when the mob comes knocking I know im out numbered 100 to 1.

Its why I try and encourage a healthy economy and happy the UK gov at least is cutting back wealthfare and stimulating job growth and is near eliminating the deficit. It could do more, a lot more in weeding out cronyism. But a starts start.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Either that, or deal with the destruction and violence that will enviably occur from ignoring those in need.

Bring it. Threats are a piss poor reason to change behavior and ideologies.

Its only a piss poor excuse if you can afford 24/7 armed guards and 10 foot security fencing around your property.

I mean, lets face it. That'd be the the only reason you'd be able to own a 55 inch plasma screen tv, without having it swiped. if it wasn't for welfare entitlements.... lol.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Either that, or deal with the destruction and violence that will enviably occur from ignoring those in need.

Bring it. Threats are a piss poor reason to change behavior and ideologies.

Rather short sighted.

The 1% are the one percent as they are out numbered 100 to 1.

Being in that group myself scares the # out me.

I'm far from that group. I'm in the 52% subsidizing and supporting 47% of America while our group funds 100% of America. I'm stuck in economic flyover status, yet somehow it is greedy of me to be unhappy with my position of making enough to live the life I want before taxes, subsidy concessions, and paying higher rates for everything to cover those who get the breaks push me down to a point where I cannot live the life I want to live. Things were not this way 10 years ago.

No, if I was sitting amongst the 1%, I'd not be here right now. I'd be sitting in the Alaskan wilderness 100 miles from the nearest village or bush community, isolated from this asininity known as modern society and be all the more content without having to deal with it on a daily basis.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
I mean, lets face it. That'd be the the only reason you'd be able to own a 55 inch plasma screen tv, without having it swiped. if it wasn't for welfare entitlements.... lol.

Not exactly. Where I live *most* people don't turn to home invasion because they have no desire to receive a bullet to their brain pan. Those that do turn to crime generally victimize those they know aren't armed.

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Metallicus

Greed to me is the accumulation of wealth or power but at the expense of other people in a negative way.

Eg there is nothing wrong with you becoming a billionaire. As long as it was done within the law and or at the expense of other peoples life or freedom.

The Elon Musks and Richard Brandsons of the world I would not label as Greedy.

Greedy would be Bernie Madoff or The bankers responsible for the 2008 Crash or war profiteers.

Elon Musk has taken a huge advantage of government welfare disguised as carbon credits due to climate change!

Dig into it and tell me I am wrong!

Yes, unfortunately true.

I was disillusioned when I first discovered that.

Still, one of the only private space companies with real promise so it's hard to fault him on accepting an Elon Musk shaped tax loophole.

originally posted by: greencmp

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: Metallicus

Greed to me is the accumulation of wealth or power but at the expense of other people in a negative way.

Eg there is nothing wrong with you becoming a billionaire. As long as it was done within the law and or at the expense of other peoples life or freedom.

The Elon Musks and Richard Brandsons of the world I would not label as Greedy.

Greedy would be Bernie Madoff or The bankers responsible for the 2008 Crash or war profiteers.

Elon Musk has taken a huge advantage of government welfare disguised as carbon credits due to climate change!

Dig into it and tell me I am wrong!

Yes, unfortunately true.

I was disillusioned when I first discovered that.

Still, one of the only private space companies with real promise so it's hard to fault him on accepting an Elon Musk shaped tax loophole.

I would not myself fault musk. He was just useing a legal policy the government created.

The government should not have put those policys there in the first place.

Yes with him those government fund were likely positive. Problem is like all little government schemes like that a dozen others likely exploited it. So better to have no schemes and let the private sector stand on its own two feet.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
I mean, lets face it. That'd be the the only reason you'd be able to own a 55 inch plasma screen tv, without having it swiped. if it wasn't for welfare entitlements.... lol.

Not exactly. Where I live *most* people don't turn to home invasion because they have no desire to receive a bullet to their brain pan. Those that do turn to crime generally victimize those they know aren't armed.

Though, it kind of evens out the scoreboard when the home invader is also armed.

Except... the home invader is at the advantage, since his already locked, loaded and completely alert... his not peacefully sleeping in his bed like the victim, who's so ignorant to beleive that the 'right bear arms' will some how give him the upper hand.

Being armed in a society that is also armed, just makes you more likely to be killed... at the end of the day.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Being armed in a society that is also armed, just makes you more likely to be killed... at the end of the day.

Yet I have survived in said society for nearly 4 decades...

Like I said, threats from the underground don't concern me in any way. If I'm too slow on the draw and it's my time, que sera, sera... I travel off to the big salmon run in the sky where I can continue being unimpressed and unmoved by shakedown artists and extortionist threats.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: johnwick

What exactly does the average Walmart worker produce?

Hundreds of billions in profits over cost per year obviously...

Wasn't that obvious???

Yet only those not actually doing the profit generation get all the money.......

How does that seem right to you?


Because it is #ed up up really bad by any standards that involves both being a complete Greece driven piece of absolute #!!!!!!

a reply to: Metallicus

An unbalanced lifestyle?