Fourth explosion in China

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Yearly average.

One explosion is an accident; four is sabotage: Fourth industrial explosion rocks China in string of covert attacks on industry

weirdness....

originally posted by: nonjudgementalist
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Yearly average.

Exactly. It's relative.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: cavtrooper7

Once can be construed as an accident.
Twice could be construed as coincidence.
Thrice could be construed as a pattern of coordinated attacks.
Four times could be construed as unfathomable odds that it is not an attack on primary infrastructure.

Just my opinion of course.

OR

It could be what you get when a country has little regard for public safety and what lax laws they have in place are ignored by big business in the name of profits anyway.

(This is why made in China is bad for everyone FYI)

Just saying.....

The reuters report:

An explosion shook a chemical plant in the Chinese province of Zhejiang, state media said on Monday, though there were no immediate reports of casualties in a country on edge after blasts killed more than 160 people last month.

The blast caused a fire and thick smoke to bellow from the plant in Lishui city shortly before midnight, state radio said on its official Weibo microblog.

Firefighters were on the scene and there were no immediate reports of casualties.

Chemical plant blasts are relatively common in China. At least five people died in an explosion at one in Shandong province last week.

On Aug. 12, explosions at a warehouse storing dangerous chemicals devastated an industrial park in the port city of Tianjin, killing more than 160 people.

Tianjin mayor Huang Xingguo said the city would step up controls on hazardous chemicals companies, according to media reports on Monday.

Reviewing new rules on the sector at a weekend meeting, Huang said priority would be given to strict standards on the hazardous chemicals business to "better protect people's lives and property", the Caixin news magazine reported.

The latest incident in Lishui will likely raise more questions about safety standards in China, where industrial accidents are all too common following three decades of fast economic growth. A blast at an auto-parts factory killed 75 people a year ago.

Source

a reply to: Wookiep

What about last year when they had 2 explode in 3 days?

If it was 4 on the same scale as the Tianjin explosion it would seem a lot more abnormal....


Dat shockwave tho...

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Wookiep

What about last year when they had 2 explode in 3 days?

I dunno, what about 4 within a month? (we're not talking little baby mamby pamby explosions here..) I'm guessing you're the expert here. It's all normal, right? K. That's what we're all supposed to believe so, thanks!

a reply to: cavtrooper7

What I dont get is why an explosion, an industrial accident ends up in the WW3 forum?

originally posted by: Wookiep

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Wookiep

What about last year when they had 2 explode in 3 days?

I dunno, what about 4 whithin a month? (we're not talking little baby mamby pamby explosions here..) I'm guessing you're the expert here. It's all normal, right? K. That's what we're all supposed to believe so, thanks!

Yes, as normal as fireworks going off if you keep throwing matches on them. If these plants were not at risk to explode we would not have the strict regulations we have in the US concerning them.

The fact is this has been going on for years. If you live in China it's normal. I already linked a bunch of explosions from last year, and every source says this happens all the time there.

You have zero evidence it's not normal, all the evidence says it is, and you keep screaming it's not .. but won't show how it's not.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: cavtrooper7

What I dont get is why an explosion, an industrial accident ends up in the WW3 forum?

This was the internet after the first blast... Every time something happens crazy happens in china from now on, the internet will react like this.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I'm not screaming anything as of yet, I'm simply observing things, and it doesn't look good from my point of view. But if you say all is normal and regular, then I guess it is! Kudos to you for knowing more than I!

a reply to: Wookiep

It isnt normal. In China and sub-modern-industrial countries it is frequent. But communist countries arent real well known for human rights activists and groups being successful or prominent.

So yes, it is much more 'normal' then lets say, the USA.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: cavtrooper7

Once can be construed as an accident.
Twice could be construed as coincidence.
Thrice could be construed as a pattern of coordinated attacks.
Four times could be construed as unfathomable odds that it is not an attack on primary infrastructure.

Just my opinion of course.

And even if chemical plants going boom are relatively common in China, taken in conjunction with China's recent financial overtures and currency devaluations (the explosions 'coincidentally coming soon after devaluation...) chemical plants would, from a purely Western black ops perspective, be the juicy target of choice for sabotage. Lot's of plausible deniability in those, if indeed it were Western sabotage responsible, as it could easily be blamed on accidents. All that would be required would be to point the finger at Chinese safety records and the semi-regular phenomena of Chinese chemical plants blowing up. VERY difficult to blame a foreign power in that situation, even if they know full well these might be tit for tat attacks.

It is not 4th, it is the 6th

Why are you all so behind in reporting the actual numbers?

China Chemical plant explosions in 2015:

Chemical plant in China's southeastern province of Fujian, April 2015
Chemical plant in Rizhao, July 2015
Chemical plant in Port city of Tianjin, Aug 12th 2015
Chemical plant in Shandong province, Aug 22th 2015
Shandong Binyuan Chemical Plant in Lijin, Dongying City, Shandong, Aug 31st 2015
Chemical plant in the Chinese province of Zhejiang, Sep 7, 2015

So far this has been the most active year in China for Chemical plant explosions. 2013 had 4, avg is over 2 a year.

Sirric

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

If such explosions are common, it would be simple to check in the news.
These have been major events. So what is up?

I suggested insurance fires as the cause. Given the slowing of the Chinese economy that tactic works elsewhere, why not in China?

a reply to: sirric

I'm finding more than 6, tho not all seem to be sourced well

31 dec 2014 - Foshan (Guangdong prov) - Company: Fuwa Engineering Manufacturing Co. Ltd
[producing: chassis components for on-road vehicles]
source

6 apr 2015 - Zhangzhou (Fujian) - Dragon Aromatics
[paraxylene]
source

21 apr 2015 - Nanjing (Jiangsu) - Nanjing Yangzi Petrochemical
[?]
source

12 jun 2015 - Nanjing (Jiangsu) - ?
[?]
source
NOTE: only source, could be the previous one even tho photos don't match

12 jul 2015 - Rizhao (Shandong) - ?
[heavy oils]
source

12 aug 2015 - Tianjin - Ruihai Logistics

13 aug 2015 - Anshan (Liaoning) - private company?
[some report steel factory, other boiler plant]
source
source (check on archive.org and you get the article)

22 aug 2015 - Huantai County (Shandong) - Shandong's Runxing Chemical Co
[adiponitrile]
source

22 aug 2015 - Tokyo - US military ammunition explosion

31 aug 2015 - Dongying (Shandong) - Shandong Binyuan Chemical
[adhesive materials]
source

7 sep 2015 - Lishui (Zhejiang) - ?
[?]


There were 8 explosions in 2014 (including the first mentioned here on 31 dec) one was the same Nanjing Yangzi Petrochemical cited here and the only chemical plant I could find was
16 apr 2014 - Rugao (Jiangsu) - Shuangma Chemical
[stearic acid, glycerin, palm wax ]
source

Rest were shoes companies, gunpowder for firewors, cesspool explosion (yeah, wtf), and car parts.

It's not normal at all, it is unusual also for chinese numbers.

a reply to: sirric

Well .... Average 2-3 per year...

4 in the last 4 weeks average up to 52 per year.... That's a 2,500% spike increase in frequency....

Three observations.

1. Chinese industry and "health and safety" are words that hardly ever appear in the same sentence. No surprise there's accidents.
2. With a Chinese economy failing, perhaps its time to reclaim an investment by blowing it up and seeking insurance.
3. Er, no that's it.

originally posted by: Mastronaut
a reply to: sirric

I'm finding more than 6, tho not all seem to be sourced well

31 dec 2014 - Foshan (Guangdong prov) - Company: Fuwa Engineering Manufacturing Co. Ltd
[producing: chassis components for on-road vehicles]
source

6 apr 2015 - Zhangzhou (Fujian) - Dragon Aromatics
[paraxylene]
source

21 apr 2015 - Nanjing (Jiangsu) - Nanjing Yangzi Petrochemical
[?]
source

12 jun 2015 - Nanjing (Jiangsu) - ?
[?]
source
NOTE: only source, could be the previous one even tho photos don't match

12 jul 2015 - Rizhao (Shandong) - ?
[heavy oils]
source

12 aug 2015 - Tianjin - Ruihai Logistics

13 aug 2015 - Anshan (Liaoning) - private company?
[some report steel factory, other boiler plant]
source
source (check on archive.org and you get the article)

22 aug 2015 - Huantai County (Shandong) - Shandong's Runxing Chemical Co
[adiponitrile]
source

22 aug 2015 - Tokyo - US military ammunition explosion

31 aug 2015 - Dongying (Shandong) - Shandong Binyuan Chemical
[adhesive materials]
source

7 sep 2015 - Lishui (Zhejiang) - ?
[?]


There were 8 explosions in 2014 (including the first mentioned here on 31 dec) one was the same Nanjing Yangzi Petrochemical cited here and the only chemical plant I could find was
16 apr 2014 - Rugao (Jiangsu) - Shuangma Chemical
[stearic acid, glycerin, palm wax ]
source

Rest were shoes companies, gunpowder for firewors, cesspool explosion (yeah, wtf), and car parts.

It's not normal at all, it is unusual also for chinese numbers.

OMFG I think it looks like sabotage!

What comes to mind and I hate to think of it is that old expression what goes around comes around.
If you dont start anything there wont be anything.
I would hate to see things blowing up randomly in my home country. . . .

not looking good here. . . .