Alien Misrepresentation

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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
For example, when I see multiple lab results showing isotopes within a metal alloy that a lab says can't be found on earth, then that has no other answer except that it is extra-terrestrial. Just like a Mars meteorite would be, except with an alloy that a lab says was definitely manufactured, and containing an isotope which doesn't match terrestrial, or even any within the solar system, (and they can make that determination using current technology), then it had to be brought here and made by someone from somewhere else. Could be humans, aliens, who knows who? But not from earth, or made here on the earth, and that leaves..... Extra-terrestrial by definition.

First of all, there are all sorts of naturally formed alloys, both on Earth and elsewhere.

Second, please provide a source for these "lab results" you keep talking about.

Hmm, I see you don't even know what I'm talking about, nor do you understand how isotopes of elements, or metals leave a fingerprint that always tells where it came from, and where it didn't come from as well. Like identification of a metallic Mars meteorite. How would it be positively identified as coming from Mars? Learn about that first, and then the rest is easy. Or should be.

Hey I know about isotopic ratios. You've got my attention. What you said sounds fascinating. Can I please see that lab report?

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
For example, when I see multiple lab results showing isotopes within a metal alloy that a lab says can't be found on earth, then that has no other answer except that it is extra-terrestrial. Just like a Mars meteorite would be, except with an alloy that a lab says was definitely manufactured, and containing an isotope which doesn't match terrestrial, or even any within the solar system, (and they can make that determination using current technology), then it had to be brought here and made by someone from somewhere else. Could be humans, aliens, who knows who? But not from earth, or made here on the earth, and that leaves..... Extra-terrestrial by definition.

First of all, there are all sorts of naturally formed alloys, both on Earth and elsewhere.

Second, please provide a source for these "lab results" you keep talking about.

Hmm, I see you don't even know what I'm talking about, nor do you understand how isotopes of elements, or metals leave a fingerprint that always tells where it came from, and where it didn't come from as well. Like identification of a metallic Mars meteorite. How would it be positively identified as coming from Mars? Learn about that first, and then the rest is easy. Or should be.

I'm familiar with the methods used to determine the sources of meteorites, thank you.

Now, instead of only focusing on the factual statement that I made in passing, why don't you address the real issue, and provide a source for your "lab result" claims?

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance

I'm familiar with the methods used to determine the sources of meteorites, thank you. Now, instead of only focusing on the factual statement that I made in passing, why don't you address the real issue, and provide a source for your "lab result" claims?

Second, please provide a source for these "lab results" you keep talking about.

Attempting to help you be smarter has proven to be a daunting task, and has only made you more annoying. I think it might be best to leave you to fend for yourself from now on instead.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: JadeStar

The reports I have are on my own computer which is not here and I am stuck with a loaner computer for at least another week, and when I get it back I'll PM them to you.

Thank you.

Thank you. I await the lab report.

a reply to: JadeStar

When and if you get said reports, would you mind sending them to me? Our friend doesn't seem to want to.

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: JadeStar

When and if you get said reports, would you mind sending them to me? Our friend doesn't seem to want to.

I'll respect the wishes and conditions of whoever sends me the reports.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: JimOberg

oops, lets try that link again..
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Knapp link

These are the same, and both working for me.

Thanks. Spiegel and Knapp are delightful story tellers who know how to make a living off of story listeners, but I'd hesitate to rely on them [or anyone, myself included] as a sole source.

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
a reply to: JimOberg

oops, lets try that link again..
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Knapp link

These are the same, and both working for me.

Thanks. Spiegel and Knapp are delightful story tellers who know how to make a living off of story listeners, but I'd hesitate to rely on them [or anyone, myself included] as a sole source.

I like that, Was that number 6, or 7? You still need that list?

a reply to: DJW001

Have I mentioned before that the classic techniques of ego diminishment and emotional engagement usually don't work on me?

Sure, I will admit that hundreds of years of hundreds of thousands of UFO sightings, and thousands of reports of abductions, crop circles and animal mutilations are not absolute proof on an ET interaction with Earth.

Can you admit the opposite? That these may represent, no matter how small the chance, the remotest possibility of an ET interaction with Earth?

And, if that there is the smallest chance there is an ongoing ET interaction with Earth, would not that be something worth investigating?

Can you answer those two questions directly?

originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: JadeStar

Since you are a student in astrobiology...you might want to take a gander at my (fooftr27) 1972 photo pic - Space Alien Hiding Behind Fossil Rock --- on YouTube


www.youtube.com...

JadeStar,


Can you see the sunlight reflecting off the top of the creature's helmet?

Can you see the two big black round eye sockets?

The long nose, with a two inch vertical breathing slit coming up from the bottom center of it's nose?

And the grey like left leg and foot resting diagonally on the Miocene fossil rock that he's sitting on?

Now if you were sitting on the rock behind the large Miocene fossil boulder (same as the creature)...your head would have been exposed to my camera, including your left leg and foot. So the creature is about the same height as an average human.

originally posted by: Erno86

originally posted by: Erno86
a reply to: JadeStar

Since you are a student in astrobiology...you might want to take a gander at my (fooftr27) 1972 photo pic - Space Alien Hiding Behind Fossil Rock --- on YouTube


www.youtube.com...

JadeStar,


Can you see the sunlight reflecting off the top of the creature's helmet?

Can you see the two big black round eye sockets?

The long nose, with a two inch vertical breathing slit coming up from the bottom center of it's nose?

And the grey like left leg and foot resting diagonally on the Miocene fossil rock that he's sitting on?

Now if you were sitting on the rock behind the large Miocene fossil boulder...your head would have been exposed to my camera, including your left leg and foot. So the creature is about the same height as an average human.

What I see is that like people who see faces in clouds or potato chips you see an "alien" in a rock.

Its called Pareidolia.

The Arrival

Probably one of the best Alien movies ever….Most of them are pretty weak but this low budget flick is surprisingly very good!

Check it out

a reply to: JadeStar

Never the less...it's still in the photo.

But I've forgotten to mention the smile of the creature --- With his smile resembling a Zen Buddhist that has just achieved satori.

Now if you look at the large dirt/stone megalith behind the creature about 14 feet above the creature's head. Well about 3 years later...I climbed up the cliff to sit behind that large megalith, and when I turned my head to look at the face of the megalith --- I found a geoglyph carving that likely resembles the creature that I took a picture of. It even has a one inch vertical slit on the nose of the geoglyph carving. That photo is on my same link, titled - Space alien petroglyph carving.

Study my first picture again, please --- For the photo is riddled with geoglyph carvings. Including a 3 dimensional carving of a flying saucer shape in the face of the cliff in the center of the photo --- With a lighter type of soil on darker soil --- that has the word "STARS" painted above the saucer carving. You look at the slope of the cliff in the center of my first photo...that has a large geoglyph carving of a large humanoid with a lighter type of soil on darker soil.

There is another photo that I have not posted on my link yet --- Taken two minutes before or after my first alien photo. That possibly consists of: A laser holographic image of a three fingered hands/three toed feet dinosauriod humanoid, that covers the image of the helmeted alien sitting behind the fossil rock. With a gray looking facial features too boot.

If I could ask you a question: If you were an alien from outer space...which place on Earth would you most likely want to study?

My answer would be Calvert Cliffs, Maryland (where I took the purported alien pictures) ---That features a motherload of
Miocene fossils, Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Reactor Power Plant and Patuxent Naval Air Center.

Cheers,

Erno

a reply to: Erno86

I don't see it either. At all. Perhaps you should start your own thread...

originally posted by: AdmireTheDistance
a reply to: Erno86

I don't see it either. At all. Perhaps you should start your own thread...

I've found it as useless to show people who have a religious belief that they saw an alien in a rock that, no what they saw was a shape in a rock which their imagination ran wild with as it is useless to point out that "no you didn't see the virgin Mary in a cloud, you just saw a cloud."

Or "No, it's not a sign from above that you saw Jesus on a Lays potato chip,"


They'll never listen so I give up after they reject rational thought.

a reply to: JadeStar
Even with visual examples it doesn't work many times. Watch, it'll happen again...

a reply to: Erno86
Look at the top photo without the distraction of the sun and shade optical illusion of the "alien" nose. You can see what you describe as the helmet is actually part of the mid-ground rock:



I can pick out the ghostface/Scream mask, the creature from the black lagoon, a giant snail, faces to the right of the "alien", and even a sleestak tucked away in the photograph.

Anyone suggest that possibly the aliens aren't just 'humanoid', but literally 'human', from a type 1-2 civilization, and just kidnapping people they like to a superior planet, while sabotaging this one, and spreading rumors of the Apocalypse and Hell?

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
a reply to: JadeStar
Even with visual examples it doesn't work many times. Watch, it'll happen again...

a reply to: Erno86
Look at the top photo without the distraction of the sun and shade optical illusion of the "alien" nose. You can see what you describe as the helmet is actually part of the mid-ground rock:

I can pick out the ghostface/Scream mask, the creature from the black lagoon, a giant snail, faces to the right of the "alien", and even a sleestak tucked away in the photograph.

The background directly behind the creature is not rock...it's Miocene dirt.

Get a grip people!!!