Who has the most dangerous job?

a reply to: DuckforcoveR

This is more about mainstream jobs and not specialty jobs. Is your job more dangerous than a cops?

a reply to: hillbilly4rent

Agreed. Fisherman take number 2 according to BLS. That includes all commercial fishing in warmer more pleasant waters. Bering Sea fishermen are some fearless bastards with a scary job.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Who's complaint department? What you all been up to to get complaints? Do you piss people off?

'Twas brought to my attention I did not mention Military. That job is very dangerous. I do not believe they live on edge in their jobs. True Alpha males don't show it when they are scared. Neither do they let fear consume them. No shooting pups from them.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
Then statistically speaking POTUS is the most dangerous job.

3 of the 44 have been shot dead...

It is actually four, Charles:

Lincoln
Garfield
McKinley
Kenendy

And really only 43 men have been President since Cleveland was President twice. Plus four more died in office.

(I just made your odds much worse)

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Good catch. I should have been more specific in the title. This is about jobs that are so dangerous, you may not make it home. I sure hope our Military brass in control of certain weapons are more stable than our Political Leaders. Otherwise, I suggest you all watch the hell out.

Oh ok. So by mainstream you mean like, anything other than the actual deadly jobs? Where's the "how many are employed" cutoff for the numbers?

Thankfully my job isn't exactly deadly to me, I run a plastic injection molding shop. There have been deaths in our industry (and serious maiming) but certainly without the publicity of LEO's. Plastics News and the break room is about it for us.

Cheers

ETA: It seems manufacturing in general is rather deadly. I don't equate that with worrying about going home or not, but for what its worth:

Manufacturing deaths

a reply to: harvestdog

Loggers die by mistake, cops get murdered. Cops have to fight people all the time. They have to deal with the scumbags of society, the murderers, the rapists, the drug addicts, the crazies, the drunks and even roofers.

Other people don't hunt loggers, they don't fight loggers because they have a warrant out for murder. When you go to put shingles up you may very well fall off the roof, but you're not going to be worried about a homeowner shooting you for pulling into the driveway.

Perhaps the reason the job isn't as statistically dangerous is because cops are vigilant and worry about going home.

More people die annually falling off a ladder than by shark attack. I don't mind climbing a ladder, I don't want to swim with sharks.

The comparison to other professions is dumb. You complain about cops wanting to go home because their jobs aren't statistically as dangerous, but how many fisherman are worried about every crab shooting them because they may have a warrant and don't want to go to jail? Yes, they may die more often accidentally than from being murdered, but how much would that number change if they were less vigilant, didn't get heavy handed when someone was a threat? There are a lot of issues with policing, but saying it's "only" the 7th most dangerous job is retarded.

Cops have a completely different kind of job, especially in the US. Any 18 year old without a criminal record can go buy an AR-15. The kind of policing that works in the UK just wouldn't here. I agree things need to change and their needs to be a discussion, I'm just sick of the cops have no reason to be fearful argument and the cops only overreach when someone deserves it nonsense, as with most things the truth is in the middle.

to answer the OP's question....the guy that tells my wife no...I got the scars to prove it...I did hear that Alaskan fishermen are right up in the most dangerous category....personally, I think that anyone working at Fukishima is well into that territory.

a reply to: harvestdog

This was just posted in another thread by 727Sky: www.thaivisa.com... email&utm_campaign=news

HOW MANY OFFICERS HAVE DIED?

Gliniewicz was the eighth law enforcement officer shot and killed in the U.S. in the last month and the fourth in 10 days, according to the Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which tracks officers' deaths so their names can be enshrined on a Washington, D.C., memorial. Steve Groeninger, a spokesman for the group, said four fatal shootings in recent days is a higher rate than usual.

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IS THAT AN INCREASE?

No. Shooting deaths of officers are actually down 13 percent compared with the same January-to-September period in 2014. There were 30 shootings last year and 26 this year. Those figures include state and local officers, as well as federal agents. The figures also include two accidental shootings, Groeninger said. Suicides are not included.

Deaths have declined through the decades. The average number of officer shooting deaths for the first six months of each year — which is how the memorial fund gauges trends — was 62 through the 1970s.

The worst half-year period over the past five decades was in 1973, when 84 officers were shot and killed in the first six months alone. Through the early 2000s, the six-month average fell to 29.

From the Associated Press: bigstory.ap.org... Source article

Just like anything else, the media can make whatever they want to look like its happening at "alarming rates". Considering that police are paid to enforce and uphold the law, their jobs are actually quite safe. Not even the most dangerous jobs, which I believe are Crab fishermen or something.

The thing that needs to be addressed in that industry though is responsibility. They lack total responsibility, and the blue wall or blue shield, or whatever you want to call it, needs to come down.

Its hypocritical and just plain wrong that they tell people to inform on their neighbours while upholding their own version of "snitches get stitches"

a reply to: Domo1

Yes, they may die more often accidentally than from being murdered, but how much would that number change if they were less vigilant, didn't get heavy handed when someone was a threat? There are a lot of issues with policing, but saying it's "only" the 7th most dangerous job is retarded.

Cops have a completely different kind of job, especially in the US. Any 18 year old without a criminal record can go buy an AR-15.

While US is at the top for guns per capita, Sweden, France, Norway and Canada are all around the top 10. So, and surely by any 2nd amendment enthusiasts, guns and crime should not go hand in hand. en.wikipedia.org...

Perhaps it is actually the policies and the policing itself that creates the violent criminals you are speaking about? Although, when you admit they are more like to hurt themselves than be hurt by said violent criminals, Im still trying to figure out the leg you are trying to stand on.

Yup, mine is up there.

Coincidentally, finished SCBA w/level 1 suit training yesterday. This way I can escape as well as drag bodies out of harms way.

Gotta enjoy work. Its what we do.

Just be safe.

Police officers.

Logging and roofing is very dangerous work. There are a lot of dangerous jobs out there where you can hurt yourself or get killed. All of these jobs that are dangerous pay less than a lot of computer jobs and white collar jobs. That is not fair at all, risk should dictate wage not education. I can see someone with a four year degree making as much as a roofer but not more than a roofer.

The cops do not need to be at any more risk than they should be. It has been insane lately. Maybe we need to put computer programmers and salesmen on the police force for a year or stick them up on a roof lugging shingles so they can appreciate what the people who actually work with risk for a living do.

originally posted by: DuckforcoveR
ETA: It seems manufacturing in general is rather deadly. I don't equate that with worrying about going home or not, but for what its worth:


a reply to: harvestdog

Every day I worry about my freinds and coworkers not coming back. It isnt about just putting widgets together. People everyday get "retired" for life changing injuries. Assuming they live of course.

Oh that is an easy one... Bank security/employe in Alaska... everybody has a ski mask on !!!

For what it's worth, I work construction and last weekend we had a portion of a very busy intersection shut down for about 24 hours. There were 3 Sheriff Deputies helping out with traffic control because people are idiots and don't know how to drive. I was talking with one of the deputies about the Harris County Deputy that was shot a killed the night before and I made the comment that they had a dangerous job. His comments were....it does get dangerous at times, but hell yall have a more dangerous job than I do...for what it's worth.

BTW, please pump your brakes while traveling through construction zones. We had a guy drive through the job site and almost run over two guys and almost in to a hole in the street...then acted like it was our fault and shot the finger at us.

Cops have many tools at their disposal (guns, pepper spray, tazers, etc.) when they are dealing with the scum of the earth. When the criminals are caught and tried, they are sentenced to prison. Correctional Officers then have to deal with the hardcore criminals with none of the tools cops have, save for pepper spray. One small canister of pepper spray against numerous inmates is not much, especially when your backup has to come from a different building or wing. IF anyone notices you are in an altercation.

1 officer handling up to and sometimes in excess of 200 or more inmates is not the best odds, considering you are locked in with them for 12 or more hours a day.

a reply to: harvestdog

Take your pick.

a reply to: harvestdog

Actually the most dangerous job is being an animal in the food chain, they are forced into servitude for the satisfaction of a human palate. Cows, chickens, fish, pigs, lamb...take your pick!